#metabrainz

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      • armalcolite
        i havnt done much bcoz of mid-semester exams. :/
      • 2016-03-14 07409, 2016

      • CatQuest
        [22:13] <reosarevok> It's been what, 6 years fighting pseudos and people not knowing what to do with them?!
      • 2016-03-14 07411, 2016

      • CatQuest
        yes
      • 2016-03-14 07415, 2016

      • armalcolite
        but yes i read about cassandra
      • 2016-03-14 07426, 2016

      • armalcolite
        and partions and redis
      • 2016-03-14 07430, 2016

      • chrisskye
        I spent quite a bit of time on data entry...to put contacts into the Pipeline in Pipedrive.
      • 2016-03-14 07443, 2016

      • Freso
        armalcolite: That's fine. :) It works like virtually raising your hand and at some point you get picked to post your review.
      • 2016-03-14 07449, 2016

      • chrisskye
        Did the usual emails with people who should be supporting us.
      • 2016-03-14 07455, 2016

      • Freso
        armalcolite: To avoid everybody giving their review at the same time. :)
      • 2016-03-14 07407, 2016

      • armalcolite
        oh.
      • 2016-03-14 07433, 2016

      • chrisskye
        Re-wrote the blog post regarding Web Sheriff to tone down anything that might arguably be defamatory.
      • 2016-03-14 07441, 2016

      • ruaok
        (and ironically enough, the people who we could harrass in person are giving us the hardest time. <cough> BMAT<cough>)
      • 2016-03-14 07449, 2016

      • ruaok bows down before chrisskye
      • 2016-03-14 07401, 2016

      • chrisskye
        don’t bow!
      • 2016-03-14 07433, 2016

      • ruaok circumflexes before chrisskye
      • 2016-03-14 07437, 2016

      • ruaok
        wait, what?
      • 2016-03-14 07452, 2016

      • Freso
        Don't bow! Bowl!
      • 2016-03-14 07455, 2016

      • chrisskye
        ruaok and I went to talk to the bank manager...and went to sign the lease today...
      • 2016-03-14 07416, 2016

      • chrisskye
        I will pass to ruaok
      • 2016-03-14 07417, 2016

      • chrisskye
        fin
      • 2016-03-14 07448, 2016

      • ruaok
        and then we spent an hour discussing the ins and outs of the EU database protection law!
      • 2016-03-14 07433, 2016

      • ruaok
        I think the most critical things I did last week involved playing bike courier for a dodgy metadata outfit in california.
      • 2016-03-14 07448, 2016

      • ruaok
        they were too cheap to pay for a courier so I jumped in.
      • 2016-03-14 07457, 2016

      • chrisskye hahahaha
      • 2016-03-14 07404, 2016

      • ruaok
        but, seriously, shoveling paperwork from one place to another.
      • 2016-03-14 07407, 2016

      • Freso
        ruaok: You should send them a cake.
      • 2016-03-14 07418, 2016

      • ruaok
        but, chrisskye is leading a proper charge.
      • 2016-03-14 07422, 2016

      • Freso
        (But not until October... O:))
      • 2016-03-14 07448, 2016

      • ruaok
        the words "it isn't important if it is correct! it is important that it looks important!" were uttered, so we're clearly on the right track.
      • 2016-03-14 07415, 2016

      • ruaok
        Paypal broke the format in which you download the transactions, so I've been fighting with that.
      • 2016-03-14 07419, 2016

      • ruaok
        pure joy that.
      • 2016-03-14 07443, 2016

      • ruaok
        lots of crazy paperwork stuff that needs doing, none of it is fun.
      • 2016-03-14 07405, 2016

      • ruaok
        but, as chrisskye said, we have keys to the office, including having to take the pictures of keys down from twitter.
      • 2016-03-14 07423, 2016

      • ruaok
        I also dealt with Web Sheriff, which was another job that was not fun.
      • 2016-03-14 07452, 2016

      • Freso
        Was the certificate reported yet?
      • 2016-03-14 07457, 2016

      • ruaok
        while there is a lot of not-fun stuff happening right now, I have to say that things in metabrainz land look very different from what they did look like 9 months ago.
      • 2016-03-14 07400, 2016

      • CatQuest also wants to know
      • 2016-03-14 07417, 2016

      • Freso
        Very much so. :)
      • 2016-03-14 07427, 2016

      • ruaok
        and we have some serious changes coming in the next 3 months that will represent a near complete reinvention of the org in the last 12 months.
      • 2016-03-14 07433, 2016

      • ruaok
        amazing that.
      • 2016-03-14 07451, 2016

      • ruaok
        no it hasn't been reported, but I am likely to do that in person.
      • 2016-03-14 07400, 2016

      • ruaok
        I will break my travel ban again for another good reason.
      • 2016-03-14 07413, 2016

      • ruaok
        there is more, but I'll stop now. :)
      • 2016-03-14 07429, 2016

      • ruaok
        zas: next!
      • 2016-03-14 07437, 2016

      • zas
        Hey
      • 2016-03-14 07418, 2016

      • zas
        i did usual server supervision and upgrades, fixed few minor things around, set up the eu ftp mirror
      • 2016-03-14 07428, 2016

      • zas
        also hacked a bit on Picard, and user scripts
      • 2016-03-14 07433, 2016

      • zas
        i think that's all, not very active this week
      • 2016-03-14 07418, 2016

      • zas
        (apart tons of MB edits ofc)
      • 2016-03-14 07424, 2016

      • Freso
        armalcolite: Did you have anything more you wanted to say? :)
      • 2016-03-14 07441, 2016

      • Freso
        chirlu: Are you around?
      • 2016-03-14 07444, 2016

      • armalcolite
        yeah. :)
      • 2016-03-14 07449, 2016

      • zas
        chirlu: ?
      • 2016-03-14 07455, 2016

      • Freso
        Alright. Go ahead and finish then. :)
      • 2016-03-14 07456, 2016

      • chirlu
        Yes, but nothing special to say.
      • 2016-03-14 07458, 2016

      • armalcolite
        1. I read about limitations of Cassandra and how redis is helpful here.
      • 2016-03-14 07406, 2016

      • ruaok
        chirlu: come to the dark side and be a mentor!! :)
      • 2016-03-14 07411, 2016

      • mootwo has quit
      • 2016-03-14 07417, 2016

      • Freso
        ^
      • 2016-03-14 07427, 2016

      • chirlu
        For which project?
      • 2016-03-14 07441, 2016

      • Gentlecat
        listenbrainz
      • 2016-03-14 07443, 2016

      • Freso
        MBS, probably. Unless you want to do something else. :)
      • 2016-03-14 07448, 2016

      • armalcolite
        2. sorted a few new tickets to work on as well.
      • 2016-03-14 07452, 2016

      • Gentlecat
        oh, you are asking about mentoring
      • 2016-03-14 07457, 2016

      • armalcolite
        which involved redis
      • 2016-03-14 07403, 2016

      • Gentlecat got confused
      • 2016-03-14 07433, 2016

      • armalcolite
        and lastly, worked on my PR's (really worked this time)
      • 2016-03-14 07442, 2016

      • armalcolite
        Thats it.
      • 2016-03-14 07446, 2016

      • Freso
        armalcolite: Cool. Thanks! :)
      • 2016-03-14 07405, 2016

      • Freso
        I guess that's it for reviews this week! And only half an hour in!
      • 2016-03-14 07408, 2016

      • alastairp
        armalcolite: thanks for all your PRs. We will review them as soon as we can
      • 2016-03-14 07416, 2016

      • Freso
        ruaok: Schema change review!
      • 2016-03-14 07425, 2016

      • bitmap
        oh, I'm meeting with the people from https://fanriff.com/ on wednesday to talk about...I do not know...but they said it's a friendly "musicbrainz fan meeting"
      • 2016-03-14 07431, 2016

      • chirlu
        Yeah, what specific GSoC project within MBS though?
      • 2016-03-14 07437, 2016

      • alastairp
        But we'll have to test them ourselves too, and check for bugs, so we won't be able to merge them immediately
      • 2016-03-14 07441, 2016

      • chirlu hasn’t seen any proposals.
      • 2016-03-14 07449, 2016

      • Sput|AFK is now known as LordSputnik
      • 2016-03-14 07452, 2016

      • armalcolite
        alastairp: np. waiting to see at least one et merged so that i can choose another ticket. :)
      • 2016-03-14 07459, 2016

      • ruaok
        chirlu: not quite to the proposals stage yet.
      • 2016-03-14 07408, 2016

      • ruaok
        more general just now.
      • 2016-03-14 07418, 2016

      • armalcolite
        alastairp: sure. i have lots of free time comming ahead. :p
      • 2016-03-14 07442, 2016

      • ruaok
        I've been looking at the tickets for the upcoming schema change.
      • 2016-03-14 07446, 2016

      • ruaok
      • 2016-03-14 07422, 2016

      • ruaok
        most are still unassigned. I would really like to see people pick them up and own them before we commit to doing them.
      • 2016-03-14 07453, 2016

      • ruaok
        in particular chirlu has loads of tickets that have no one assigned.
      • 2016-03-14 07406, 2016

      • bitmap
      • 2016-03-14 07410, 2016

      • ruaok
        is the plan for bitmap to take some? is there a plan?
      • 2016-03-14 07422, 2016

      • ruaok
        bitmap: great, please claim it.
      • 2016-03-14 07441, 2016

      • ruaok
        ideally, I would like to see a ticket or two be done by Gentlecat.
      • 2016-03-14 07445, 2016

      • Gentlecat
        I can try to work on some that are more easier, need to take a closer look
      • 2016-03-14 07450, 2016

      • bitmap
        most of those are ones chirlu wanted to look it, but I didn't assign them in case he got busy
      • 2016-03-14 07450, 2016

      • ruaok
        bitmap, chirlu: got any suggestions for some?
      • 2016-03-14 07404, 2016

      • Gentlecat
        I have another list, and I don't think it includes any from schema change
      • 2016-03-14 07416, 2016

      • ruaok
        yeah, this is only schema change stuff.
      • 2016-03-14 07429, 2016

      • bitmap
        I'd love for Gentlecat to look at some of the smaller ones
      • 2016-03-14 07450, 2016

      • ruaok
        bitmap: I wonder about 8805. it isn't a schema change ticket per-se. it just needs to be done before the release.
      • 2016-03-14 07406, 2016

      • bitmap
        true
      • 2016-03-14 07409, 2016

      • ruaok
        I'm inclined to move it out of the fix version for now.
      • 2016-03-14 07412, 2016

      • bitmap
        did you see my question earlier?
      • 2016-03-14 07422, 2016

      • ruaok
        bitmap: sorry, no. hit me after the meeting?
      • 2016-03-14 07430, 2016

      • bitmap
        sure
      • 2016-03-14 07432, 2016

      • ruaok
        k
      • 2016-03-14 07444, 2016

      • ruaok
        chirlu: there are a number of tickets that don't read very actionable.
      • 2016-03-14 07457, 2016

      • ruaok
        "we should" or "maybe we can" kinda stuff
      • 2016-03-14 07458, 2016

      • chirlu
        The “consider” tickets?
      • 2016-03-14 07409, 2016

      • ruaok
        yea.
      • 2016-03-14 07433, 2016

      • ruaok
        it would be ideal to decide the tickets either way and update them to reflect that decision.
      • 2016-03-14 07445, 2016

      • Freso hopes chirlu didn't disappear on us again :/
      • 2016-03-14 07412, 2016

      • ruaok
        the issue I am facing is writing a blog post detailed what we are going to do, but it is unclear from the tickets what that is.
      • 2016-03-14 07412, 2016

      • Freso
        Oh, he's right there.
      • 2016-03-14 07421, 2016

      • ruaok
        which makes writing said blog post quite hard.
      • 2016-03-14 07428, 2016

      • Freso confused by chirlu and bitmap having the same colour in his client
      • 2016-03-14 07442, 2016

      • ruaok
        any chance you could review the tickets in the next 24 hours?
      • 2016-03-14 07455, 2016

      • ruaok
        if there is anything you're not 100% certain you want to do, leave itout.
      • 2016-03-14 07402, 2016

      • ruaok
        +' '
      • 2016-03-14 07405, 2016

      • chirlu
        Well, most of them are mostly index issues that shouldn’t really affect people.
      • 2016-03-14 07420, 2016

      • ruaok
        understood, but it still required me to talk about it one way or another.
      • 2016-03-14 07423, 2016

      • ruaok
        *s
      • 2016-03-14 07457, 2016

      • ruaok
        and if there are tickets that you feel strongly about, but can't committ to, see about having bitmap/gentlecat do it.
      • 2016-03-14 07415, 2016

      • bitmap
        I might add one more small ticket related to area_containment. but I'll post comments on all the ones I'm assigned to today
      • 2016-03-14 07419, 2016

      • ruaok
        but, really try to work up the tickets in the next 24 hours so that I can go write my blog post about them.
      • 2016-03-14 07429, 2016

      • ruaok
        bitmap: ok, thanks.
      • 2016-03-14 07432, 2016

      • chirlu
        I’ll look.
      • 2016-03-14 07450, 2016

      • ruaok
        any tickets left unassigned at the end of tomorrow, will be removed from the fix version and will have to wait until autumn.
      • 2016-03-14 07421, 2016

      • ruaok
        bitmap, chirlu: also please identify a ticket or two for Gentlecat.
      • 2016-03-14 07424, 2016

      • ruaok
        fin on this topic.
      • 2016-03-14 07428, 2016

      • ruaok
        moving along to Gsoc.
      • 2016-03-14 07430, 2016

      • bitmap
        k
      • 2016-03-14 07442, 2016

      • ruaok
        we just had our organizational meeting prior to this meeting.
      • 2016-03-14 07400, 2016

      • ruaok
        we're getting our ideas page updated and into shape since the application phase started today.
      • 2016-03-14 07409, 2016

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: GSoC update (ruaok), DR “nostalgia edition”: MBS-6396, MBS-7501, MBS-7564 (chirlu?); DR: MBS-3722 (Freso)
      • 2016-03-14 07410, 2016

      • ruaok
        our goal is to get one student on each of the participating projects.
      • 2016-03-14 07432, 2016

      • ruaok
        whatever left over slots we have, will be dedicated to the best proposals.
      • 2016-03-14 07447, 2016

      • ruaok
        our goal is to have 6 slots, but we'll ask for more, given out lengthy ideas page.
      • 2016-03-14 07457, 2016

      • ruaok
        *our
      • 2016-03-14 07444, 2016

      • ruaok
        also, given that the time to submit proposals is quite short now, we should make sure that qualified students showing promise submit *something* before the deadline. proposals can be edited after the deadline to submit proposals is over. THIS IS IMPORTANT!
      • 2016-03-14 07405, 2016

      • ruaok
        so, the key for us in the next week or so is to identify students and to ensure they get proposals in, even if they are not perfect.
      • 2016-03-14 07422, 2016

      • Freso
        armalcolite: ^
      • 2016-03-14 07425, 2016

      • ruaok
        also, we've identified that LB and AB are getting a lot of interest.
      • 2016-03-14 07435, 2016

      • armalcolite
        sure.
      • 2016-03-14 07437, 2016

      • ruaok
        so far CB and MB have been left out.
      • 2016-03-14 07455, 2016

      • armalcolite
        i have exams till 16th.
      • 2016-03-14 07455, 2016

      • zas
        and Picard
      • 2016-03-14 07411, 2016

      • armalcolite
        would be joining the work from 17th
      • 2016-03-14 07412, 2016

      • ruaok
        we should let people know that LB and AB are impacted and that if people want to work with MetaBrainz that they should consider MB, CB or even BB.
      • 2016-03-14 07422, 2016

      • ruaok
        though I think BB is doing fine now.
      • 2016-03-14 07439, 2016

      • ruaok
        zas: I dont think we have picard on the ideas page now.
      • 2016-03-14 07447, 2016

      • ruaok
        if you have any ideas, please add them poste-haste.
      • 2016-03-14 07456, 2016

      • ruaok
        questions on gsoc?
      • 2016-03-14 07411, 2016

      • ruaok
        fin. back to you Freso!