TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: GSoC (Freso), tagging tickets (chirlu), DR: MBS-4502 (reo), MBS-8542 (reo), schema change (bitmap)
2016-02-08 03955, 2016
Freso
CatQuest…
2016-02-08 03958, 2016
Gentlecat
woot
2016-02-08 03906, 2016
Leo_Verto
It's a conspiracy by Google to keep you busy, Freso :P
2016-02-08 03939, 2016
Freso
GSoC applications are now open. I need to figure out the new Google for Business MetaBrainz thing before I make an account on the new GSoC site (no more melange!).
2016-02-08 03939, 2016
ruaok does a little happy dance
2016-02-08 03954, 2016
Freso
Once I get access, I will start poking at the application process.
2016-02-08 03955, 2016
Freso
But!
2016-02-08 03955, 2016
ruaok
no more melange. woot!
2016-02-08 03912, 2016
Gentlecat
new problems, yay
2016-02-08 03915, 2016
ruaok
it should, in theory, start working soon.
2016-02-08 03918, 2016
Freso
If you can think of ideas for possible GSoC projects, please add them to the wiki. :)
2016-02-08 03935, 2016
ruaok
oh, speaking of google apps stuff.
2016-02-08 03942, 2016
Freso
I don't think there's a 2016 specific ideas page yet, but I'll get around to making it later or tomorrow.
2016-02-08 03952, 2016
ruaok
there is a migration tool, that allows you to import mail from another account.
2016-02-08 03956, 2016
Freso
If you really need to get an idea out, feel free to create the page yourself. ;)
2016-02-08 03904, 2016
ruaok
so, if you have a private account that you'd like migrated, ping me.
2016-02-08 03920, 2016
Freso
ruaok: But will it allow to import Google privileges/settings from another Google account?
2016-02-08 03931, 2016
ruaok
TBD. my migration is running.
2016-02-08 03933, 2016
Freso
Anyway, let's take that post-meeting.
2016-02-08 03937, 2016
ruaok
but 15 years of mail is... taking a while.
2016-02-08 03947, 2016
Freso
So, yeah.
2016-02-08 03923, 2016
Freso
We have already had some GSoC hopefuls asking questions and poking at code in here, so candidates need to get ready!
2016-02-08 03944, 2016
Freso
(Of course, there's no guarantee that we'll be accepted, but I'm hoping!)
2016-02-08 03950, 2016
Freso
Any questions?
2016-02-08 03936, 2016
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: tagging tickets (chirlu), DR: MBS-4502 (reo), MBS-8542 (reo), schema change (bitmap)
2016-02-08 03941, 2016
Freso
chirlu`: tagging tickets!
2016-02-08 03921, 2016
chirlu`
So, during and before GCI, there was some trouble identifying suitable tasks.
2016-02-08 03937, 2016
Freso
^
2016-02-08 03913, 2016
chirlu`
And people were saying, “Oh, we’d need bug tags, like good-first-bug or something”.
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
chirlu`
Which of course at least our ancient JIRA doesn’t support.
2016-02-08 03953, 2016
chirlu`
So I thought we maybe could restart using the custom size field?
2016-02-08 03911, 2016
Gentlecat
yeah, would be great to have a way to mark "beginner" tickets
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
bitmap
custom size field?
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
CatQuest
can't we just update our jira already?
2016-02-08 03928, 2016
CatQuest
(when the anti-update-shit guy is telling you to jsut update...)
2016-02-08 03932, 2016
reosarevok
Aren't we supposed to update jira soon?
2016-02-08 03947, 2016
Freso
Leftmost?
2016-02-08 03950, 2016
chirlu`
bitmap: There is a “Size estimate” field for MBS at least.
2016-02-08 03907, 2016
chirlu`
With options ranging from “House” to “Planet”.
2016-02-08 03908, 2016
bitmap
ohh, that
2016-02-08 03933, 2016
bitmap
well, sounds reasonble since we don't use that currently
2016-02-08 03947, 2016
chirlu`
So the idea was, when we look at a bug/feature request and don’t want to work on it immediately but have some idea
2016-02-08 03904, 2016
chirlu`
about how much work/how difficult it would be to resolve, we could set that field.
2016-02-08 03909, 2016
ruaok
(jira is after discourse)
2016-02-08 03932, 2016
Freso
Oh, so the sooner I get around to setting up Discourse, the sooner we get new Jira?
2016-02-08 03946, 2016
Freso
That's some incentive. :p
2016-02-08 03904, 2016
ruaok
yep
2016-02-08 03907, 2016
chirlu`
The field is searchable, so we could get a list of all House tickets, say.
2016-02-08 03935, 2016
chirlu`
Of course, capturing the difficulty in one dimension isn’t perfect, but it would be an improvement.
2016-02-08 03901, 2016
chirlu`
Because I at least can’t remember potentially easy tasks when prompted to do so …
2016-02-08 03918, 2016
Freso
Yeah.
2016-02-08 03933, 2016
chirlu`
It wouldn’t be necessary to set the field for all tickets (not even for most of them).
2016-02-08 03939, 2016
Freso
And once we get New Jira™, it'll be easy to find and "re"-tag the issues.
2016-02-08 03944, 2016
chirlu`
So, any objections or better ideas?
2016-02-08 03950, 2016
Freso
+1 from me
2016-02-08 03913, 2016
bitmap
+1
2016-02-08 03925, 2016
ruaok
+1
2016-02-08 03928, 2016
bitmap
dunno if the current dimensions need tweaking, I could do that though
2016-02-08 03936, 2016
Leo_Verto
I've done some research into how to upgrade Jira a while ago, not sure if that is still relevant
2016-02-08 03950, 2016
chirlu`
Yes, house sounds a bit large.
2016-02-08 03910, 2016
chirlu`
Perhaps grain of sand/pebble/rock/mountain or something?
2016-02-08 03946, 2016
ruaok
quark'
2016-02-08 03905, 2016
Freso
Birdhouse
2016-02-08 03923, 2016
Sput|Away
Freso: Discourse tomorrow plz :P
2016-02-08 03929, 2016
Sput|Away is now known as LordSputnik
2016-02-08 03937, 2016
chirlu`
Well, I guess we can define that later.
2016-02-08 03956, 2016
LordSputnik
Quantum of Hackage
2016-02-08 03909, 2016
Freso
LordSputnik: I have some final GCI stuff I want to get done first, so I can close that door for good. (For now...)
2016-02-08 03926, 2016
Freso
Once that's done, I'll try and poke at it.
2016-02-08 03948, 2016
Freso
But I also have some other backlogged things I really want to clear out.
("Send me a notification if the artist has a new release")
2016-02-08 03912, 2016
reosarevok
Well it's not working
2016-02-08 03925, 2016
reosarevok
But I don't think it matches well with the way we get data
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
ruaok
this ticket kinda bugs me.
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
chirlu`
It was working pre-NGS.
2016-02-08 03936, 2016
ruaok
we have all of this data we're sitting on.
2016-02-08 03937, 2016
ruaok
amazing data.
2016-02-08 03951, 2016
ruaok
yet any time we try and do something with the data, people just want that feature gone.
2016-02-08 03900, 2016
ruaok doesn't understand
2016-02-08 03905, 2016
reosarevok
(since we don't get feeds or anything, there's no guarantee that the releases are added near to the time they're released, so it's more like "send me info of new releases that someone happened to add")
2016-02-08 03922, 2016
ruaok
but clearly people don't want this, otherwise it wouldn't have languished for 5 years.
2016-02-08 03923, 2016
ruaok
kill it.
2016-02-08 03925, 2016
reosarevok
I'd like this option if it was a consistent way of getting informed of all new releases
2016-02-08 03956, 2016
reosarevok
But we don't have the consistency because of the way we get data - and we could make it "when a new release is added" instead but then it'd be less relevant
2016-02-08 03956, 2016
Leo_Verto
maybe us release dates?
2016-02-08 03956, 2016
ruaok
reosarevok: it may not be, but if people like the service it is a tool to draw in more people to add releases.
2016-02-08 03958, 2016
Freso
I'd be happy to see what muspy done directly in MB.
2016-02-08 03959, 2016
LordSputnik
This seems more like a "music/social media/events" feature than something MB should deal with, I guess?
2016-02-08 03906, 2016
Leo_Verto
s/us/use/
2016-02-08 03919, 2016
Freso
But I also don't think it should be something we should spend developer money-time on.
2016-02-08 03926, 2016
ruaok
and the more people use it, the more people add, the better it gets.
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
CatQuest
ugh er dere ferdig snart så jeg kan soppe paying attention
2016-02-08 03932, 2016
reosarevok
Leo_Verto: that was the idea of this script, it's just that there's no guarantee that the release will be added soon at release time
2016-02-08 03946, 2016
ruaok
perhaps this could go back to a feature for GSoC for whence it came?
2016-02-08 03951, 2016
Freso
LordSputnik: I would love to see more "music/social media/events" features in MB proper.
2016-02-08 03900, 2016
ruaok
yes, that.
2016-02-08 03907, 2016
ruaok
please add that to the ideas page.
2016-02-08 03915, 2016
Freso
CatQuest: 3 minutes.
2016-02-08 03931, 2016
Freso
Alright. Kill ticket and add mention about it on GSoC page. Motion carried!
2016-02-08 03934, 2016
Freso
!next
2016-02-08 03938, 2016
Freso
reosarevok: DR!
2016-02-08 03953, 2016
chirlu`
Uh, in that case the ticket should be reopened, not killed.
It's a request to block jaikoz from adding barcodes from the ws
2016-02-08 03937, 2016
chirlu`
+1 to removing barcode submission altogether.
2016-02-08 03939, 2016
bitmap
I think I agree with deprecating barcode submission
2016-02-08 03939, 2016
reosarevok
I'd happily do that, because I have barely ever seen a correct barcode add edit from there
2016-02-08 03948, 2016
CatQuest
oh about that ticlet. I'll love an ability to get an email every time an album (not comp or va) is added to the artists of my chosing
2016-02-08 03952, 2016
Freso
I'd be happy to indulge the request, I'm not a fan of removing submission altogether.
2016-02-08 03956, 2016
reosarevok
But yeah, in general I've barely ever seen *any* correct barcode ws submission
2016-02-08 03909, 2016
Freso
I want to see more things being editable via WS, not less.
2016-02-08 03913, 2016
reosarevok
It tends to involve adding it to any release that matches the tracklist, which is usually unrelated
2016-02-08 03915, 2016
ruaok
the idea was to submit barcodes from the mobile apps
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
reosarevok
(or well, not related enough)
2016-02-08 03943, 2016
ruaok
Freso: we should work to improve submissions. I agree with you, not kill them.
2016-02-08 03901, 2016
ruaok
so, +1 from me on 8542
2016-02-08 03907, 2016
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: DR: MBS-8542 (reo), schema change (bitmap)
2016-02-08 03911, 2016
Leftmost
Freso, hmm?
2016-02-08 03913, 2016
ruaok
(if people feel that this is in fact a valid issue)
2016-02-08 03916, 2016
chirlu`
ruaok: The original version, that is?
2016-02-08 03921, 2016
Freso
Oh, snap. I hadn't seen bitmap adding a topic too.
2016-02-08 03927, 2016
bitmap
those are autoedits now, right? we could probably make them not if submitted that way
2016-02-08 03932, 2016
ruaok
chirlu`: sorry?
2016-02-08 03940, 2016
ruaok
bitmap: +1
2016-02-08 03941, 2016
Freso
bitmap: Long thing? Or a short update?
2016-02-08 03946, 2016
bitmap
re schema change, I don't have anything concrete to say, just that we should probably confirm the schema change date and set a deadline for tickets in the coming weeks
2016-02-08 03952, 2016
chirlu`
ruaok: Wondering what you are +1ing – blacklisting jaikoz?
2016-02-08 03902, 2016
ruaok
chirlu`: conditionally yes.
2016-02-08 03905, 2016
Freso
bitmap: Let's do that first thing next Monday?
2016-02-08 03912, 2016
bitmap
sure
2016-02-08 03915, 2016
Freso
(Well, after review.)
2016-02-08 03917, 2016
ruaok
bitmap: the first question is this: what schema changes to people wnat?
2016-02-08 03918, 2016
Freso
Alright!
2016-02-08 03919, 2016
ruaok
want?
2016-02-08 03920, 2016
Freso
</BANG>
2016-02-08 03931, 2016
ruaok
collect your desired features and bring them next week, please.
2016-02-08 03936, 2016
CatQuest
ZZZzzzzz
2016-02-08 03938, 2016
CatQuest
*___*
2016-02-08 03942, 2016
TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews, schema change (bitmap)
