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and i didnt find yet how we can improve the situation, apart increasing the bandwidth

yeah. someone needs throttling, I think. :)

yes

move to hetzner.

really.

we're out of server capacity.

we can't increase bandwidth.

yes, i think that's the only way

lets give that document some more love and ask questions.

ok

once we have the office up and running we can focus on that.

it really is time.

agreed

we've been in overtime for... 2 years?

> Digital veteran Ty Roberts, who co-founded entertainment data platform Gracenote, has been appointed to the newly created role of UMG's Senior Vice President and Chief Technology Officer, effective April 25.

huh. that's interesting. the die hard die hard representative of the company just left.

fin. chirlu ?

I haven't seen any activity from chirlu, so.

kartikgupta0909: Go ;)

Yeah, so I had a look into AB-63. Rather I have started working on it.

alastairp had already made a basic table displaying all the public datasets

I have to put in a filter for the status of their last job.

and also pagination as the number of datasets will go high in the future.

thats it for now.

armalcolite: Do you have anything?

Freso: yup.

Go :)

Started working on the things suggested by alastraip.

here is the list of them, https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-serv...

2. Updated the 2 PR's as usual. Once again, ready for review :)

3. There was a suggestion to add tests as well. So i spent this week learning nose and writing nosetests. I wrote some tests on my latest project https://github.com/pinkeshbadjatiya/Nex (it is actualy a python server. the repo is private, though i can give access to anyone whose interested:) ). I also found that there is a newer version, nose2 which supports

python3. So then migrated to nose2.

4. (May not be appropriate here) I integrated some of my projects using Travis-CI and learned more about testing and integration with python3.

Thats it for now.

:)

Cool. Thanks. :)

No sign of life from chirlu and Quora has signed off.

So!

Freso: Bot Coc!

im here

just a different name :p

Oh.

Want to make a quick(!) update?

yeah sure,

Go go go!

for the most part just going over the bbz codebase and getting up to speed with postgres

We're almost out of time and have two agenda items yet to do.

had a good talk in the last BBz meeting and think we have a better idea for how we will go ahead with gamification

That was a pretty good last BB meeting. :)

and my courseload is a little crazy atm so i dont know how much i will get done of the next week or so, I will have to see how it pans out

is that alright?

I would imagine it's fine

(but I'm not a mentor :) )

Sure :)

rad, thats it from me then :)

Student picks are announced on the 22nd, that's ~1½ week from now.

So "community bonding period" doesn't officially start until then anyway. :)

Anyway!

Freso!

Yes!

I have posted a draft for a revised CoC posted at https://community.metabrainz.org/t/rfc-revised-... - please review and comment.

chirlu brought up something that wasn't discussed last week, so I'm not sure if I should act on it: https://community.metabrainz.org/t/rfc-revised-... - the "to be implemented via code" part. (Ticket for it is at http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-6723 )

I think we should still implement the restriction in code, but I'd be happy to remove the parenthesis from the CoC.

I'm not sure if it's worth the effort to block this

Any thoughts?

But I guess it should be very simple

So I guess it's fine. I don't think it needs to be specified there though

Yeah, I'm guessing it's a "simple" check on the account type when a vote is cast.

If it's just blocked by code I don't think we need to even mention it (why forbid something they literally can't do anyway?)

I think AE bots can also still vote in AE elections.

I think a) it’s not worth the effort, b) whatever the decision about that, it doesn’t belong in the CoC because it doesn’t address the bot owners.

Sure. But it's not blocked by code yet. :)

It does address the bot owners if it's the bot that should refrain from voting rather than the site preventing them from voting.

bitmap: ?

“(to be implemented in code)” does not address the bot owners.

Sure. I'd be happy to see that go.

I agree it's not worth the effort right now

bitmap: So close the ticket, or just leave it open?

it's easy to see if a bot has been voting

I *only* mean the parenthesis.

“Don’t vote” should stay.

I agree ^^

reosarevok: PICARD-ticket!

( http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/PICARD-807 )

So

about the where question for bots, i would say the IP or hostname

zas: Reply in the topic.

It's not my ticket, I just thought I would bring this up to see if someone (zas?) has opinions on this

(Please.)

ok

"As suggested in the community thread it could automatically retry the request, but given the state of the server I don't think this is a good strategy, as it would increase the load on the server." said outsidecontext

I dunno how much of our load is Picard - if it's not too much, I think we should let it retry a few times at least

not that much.

reosarevok: not much in fact

more so other idiots. :)

By the time the next Picard version is released, we will hopefully have moved to Hetzner...

I just don't want to get something like this into Picard without hearing back from the server guys

Oh, hi outsidecontext :)

Yeah, I think zas should have the final say on this.

(Being both Picard dev and MB server adm...)

We can improve Picard a bit in this situation, on 503 it could just retry requests with an increased delay

And once he has declared something, I'll call this meeting off.

Freso: honestly I don't think that should make a difference - even if the servers are better, having a specific 503 thing is probably not *bad*

zas: +1

(and in the meantime people who are annoyed can use a dev build)

zas: Is that your declaration?

but the core issue is the rate limit, and apart kicking idiots ruaok was talking about and increasing bandwidth

i see no other way

lets poke idiots and move on our move.

zas: So that's a go for the ticket?

Yes.

Then I declare:

</BANG>

It should be quite easy to do.

With 36 seconds to spare. :)

Thank you everybody!

:)

thanks freso!

I'd really love to see the reviews getting more efficient somehow. I don't like using 50 minutes out of 60 on that. :/

agreed.

Well we didn't have anything else to talk about today anyway :p

do you know what a lightning talk is Freso ?

ruaok: about BBz cert, did you get any answer ?

I like long reviews that tell me what everyone did personally - 5 minutes per person out of a week is not much after all

yes. but got distracted.

ruaok: A 15 minute presentation?

5 minute with slides that auto advance.

ruaok: I held a "lightning talk" about MB a couple years ago.

I think we should got with 3 minutes per person.

2 even.

I guess they used a different definition. :)

Freso: I think you setting the order might help. with people unsure where they fit in, it can be quite disruptive

Yeah.

alastairp: Possibly. Let's try that next week.

Just keep the same order every week?

also, it means they can perhaps start writing ahead of time so that they have stuff to paste in

so, this gracenote founder going to universal music thing is interesting.

If someone is late they will need to wait until the end?

LordSputnik, I removed the data relations because nothing was going to use them and the ideal for me would be to not expose a relation like that in the API.

alastairp: Nothing stops them from writing things up in advance. :)

he moves to a company that licenses data from a competitor to the company he founded.

I had mine written up 2 hours before meeting start.

an alternative is to have an app which people write their report into, and we automatically paste it in here