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      • hellska
        Hi!
      • Mineo has quit
      • I discussed my project with gentlecat and received some good advices on how to improve te proposal
      • started to look into the jira system and identified somo issues that are related to datasets in AcousticBrainz
      • alastairp
        Freso: whoops, at 8:55 I forgot :)
      • I can go at end
      • Freso
        alastairp: 👍
      • alastairp: You're after Leftmost then.
      • hellska: fin?
      • hellska_ joined the channel
      • I guess so.
      • hellska_
        aaaa sorry I went offline :(
      • Freso
        Ah.
      • alastairp
        jazztel!
      • hellska_
        … yess :(
      • ruaok
        snap
      • hellska_
        well … to finish
      • I’m working with the AcousticBrainz server and sterted creating my development environment
      • ruaok wonders how he likes his movistar fibre
      • ruaok
        (alastairp that is)
      • hellska_
        I think it’s all for this week :)
      • Freso
        Great. Thanks hellska_ :)
      • Gentlecat
        oh you already got fiber?
      • Freso
        cetko: Hi! Go! :)
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      • cetko
        Hi, I'm Goran from Croatia but people call me cetko (tsetko). I'll be working on AcousticBrainz BigQuery data exploration this summer with alastairp as mentor. I'm in the middle of my midterm exams this week so my focus has mostly been on surviving that. Once that's done I'll discuss the account setup with alastair for BigQuery to play around and start working on the db schema design.
      • wrote ahead :D
      • alastairp
        ruaok: without interrupting the meeting too much more, great. fast, stable, fijo works well
      • Freso
        cetko: Good plan ;)
      • alastairp
        cool
      • ruaok
        alastairp: +1 same here
      • cetko: we have more work for you.
      • alastairp
        keep in touch. I'm always here
      • ruaok
        because clearly the BigQuery stuff is far easier than alastairp and I expected.
      • alastairp
        cetko: we hosted a bigquer developer advocate last week
      • ruaok
        but that is good. :)
      • alastairp
        I'll talk about it on my turn
      • ruaok
        +1
      • Freso
        cetko: You got my e-mail, right? It'd be great to have you hang around the channel more, when you're free. :)
      • Anyway, thanks!
      • cetko
        ok, let me know. I guess that's it from me for now
      • Freso
        This was our 6 GSoC students everyone!
      • cetko
        I'm usually on irc but sometimes the server reboots
      • kartikgupta0909
        I am left Freso :(
      • Freso
        Oh, dammit.
      • kartikgupta0909: Go go go!
      • And hi :D
      • kartikgupta0909
        Hi
      • finished off with my exams last week
      • hellska_ joined the channel
      • JonnyJD joined the channel
      • this week i plan to get AB-63 merged
      • after which we will have a nice page on acousticbrainz which will show a list of all public datasets
      • and also finalize everything about the project with alastairp
      • alastairp
        👍
      • Freso
        Sounds good. :)
      • kartikgupta0909
        and finaly write a blog about my project
      • Thats it
      • Freso
        Great. Thanks. :)
      • And *that* was our six GSoC students!
      • alastairp
        Freso: are we doing student blogs this year?
      • Freso
        Hi to you all again. :)
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      • alastairp: Don't know. Let's talk later/post-meeting.
      • Leftmost: Go.
      • Leftmost
        Freso actually did remove me from the list and then add me back. I didn’t expect that. :)
      • alastairp
        Freso: fine
      • Freso
        Leftmost: ;)
      • Leftmost
        Lots of work on the underpinnings of the BB site code this week. A few wins as far as user experience, but it will also make it much easier to improve things going forward. Going to try to release those changes in the next couple days.
      • I mostly procrastinated on my schema change ticket, as I’m finding it a bit frustrating to find all the places that barcodes are pulled in, but I think I just need to make another run through and fix up tests and the WS and then it's review time.
      • Fin.
      • Freso
        alastairp: Go.
      • alastairp
        not much wrt AB server this week, I reviewed a few of Gentlecat's patches, will do more later this week
      • now that we have SoC students, there's a bit of planning of things to do
      • bitmap
        Leftmost: yeah, just submit what you have even if you're not sure
      • ruaok wants to know how MSD rescue is going
      • alastairp
        some people saw filipe around last week, he's a developer advocate at google and was in Barcelona, so he and ruaok and Gentlecat hung out for a few hours
      • ruaok
        that was really fun. :)
      • zas
        alastairp: did you solve the hl_calc issue on spike ?
      • alastairp
        basically, it took us about 20 minutes to import all of acousticbrainz into google bigquery
      • Freso
        Whoa.
      • alastairp
        and now we can do queries like this: http://demo.redash.io/embed/query/1571/visualiz...
      • which is key vs release year
      • we also got some really cool correlation plots between things like loudness and bpm grouped by genre
      • takes about 4 seconds to do a query, but in the current way we have it set up, eats through about 80GB of data processing it :/
      • first job for cetko is to write a schema which will get that down to <50MB for a similar query
      • ruaok
        oy
      • alastairp
        MSD rescue is done
      • ruaok
        !m alastairp
      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, alastairp!
      • alastairp
        zas: it's on my list for this week, I guess hl_calc isn't deleting temp files after creating them, but a quick look at the code didn't show anything out of place. I'll see
      • fin
      • Freso
        Alright. Thanks everyone. :)
      • Leftmost: SSO.
      • Leftmost
        I don't have much concrete to say about it at this point, but I wanted to direct people to https://community.metabrainz.org/t/single-sign-... for some brainstorming on what it should look like.
      • I suspect it will be schema change-y, so I'd like to gather a bunch of feedback and then I might start working on a prototype to see what's feasible and what isn't. If anyone else wants to help out, that'd be much appreciated. :)
      • That's all I have to say on it for now, not sure if anyone else wants to chip in.
      • Freso
        Alright. Thanks for doing this legwork, Leftmost. :)
      • zas: New Search Server (NSS?)
      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting [at 19 UTC] agenda: New Search Servers? (zas), AE elections (Freso/reo)
      • zas
        Well, what's the alternative plan ? weeksio will not work on it if i understood, and our old servers are ..
      • ruaok
        and me, I suspect.
      • yeah, let me set the stage...
      • so, weeksio emailed me with a predicament... he was offered an internship locally to where he lives.
      • Freso
        KodeStar: I'm pretty sure we'd be open to let other projects use it. We currently use OAuth2 which anyone can ping against.
      • ruaok
        and he felt that that was a better opportunity for him.
      • which made me sad, but in the grand scheme of things, I understand.
      • CallerNo6
        ^ this is something I'd like to write a "state of the <thingy>" post for
      • ruaok
        I did, however, basically make it clear to him that we needed undivided attention on this project.
      • KodeStar
        Freso: will the sso replace OAuth2 or will they both run concurrently?
      • Freso
        KodeStar: E.g., AcoustID.org can use MB OAuth for logging in.
      • ruaok
        because this is a really big problem for us now.
      • Freso
        KodeStar: Participate in the thread on the forum and ask. :)
      • KodeStar
        Freso: roger that
      • ruaok
        that said, I might just need to bit the bullet and take on this project myself.
      • bitmap
        once I submit the PR for http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/MBS-8736 it'll be much easier for me to do dev stuff with the search server, too
      • zas
        It is especially a big problem with the move to NewHost
      • ruaok
        so, my hope is that if armalcolite can run with LB, then I can focus on tackling the last bits that are missing for the SOLR stuff.
      • zas: the move to NewHost needs to have the SOLR stuff in place, without a doubt.
      • zas and I started looking at the search stuff again, trying another approach to try and understand what is happening.
      • perhaps we can buy ourselves some time, but I doubt it.
      • Freso
        (Off topic but someone relatedly, I'm really excited to see where Music/MetaBrainz is at come Summer 2017. :))
      • ruaok
        mostly I feel that I need to devote some of my time toward this ugly wart of ours.
      • armalcolite
        ruaok: sure. (i would be taking some time before going into coding mode. Want to enjoy a bit after the exams :) )
      • ruaok
        armalcolite: as you should. let's discuss tomorrow.
      • but there are a lot of plans for LB as well.
      • armalcolite
        ruaok: ok.
      • ruaok
        so, really I can't give very concrete plans on the search stuff just yet, but perhaps in 2 weeks time we can have a better view of what is going to happen.
      • armalcolite
        ruaok: (i would be taking some time before going into coding mode. Want to enjoy a bit after the exams :) )
      • ruaok
        in the meantime... use the biggest hammer you have zas.
      • I'll have all the amenities you'd like once you get to BCN, zas.
      • zas
        Ok. ;)
      • ruaok
        I'm also stoked that zas and bitmap are coming for social visits this month!
      • next?
      • Freso gives zas http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fairytail/images/5/5c/Holy_Hammer.png/revision/latest?cb=20130523140205
      • zas
        Me too :)
      • ruaok
        Freso: that might actually work!
      • Freso
        Anyway.
      • Freso / reosarevok: AE elections.
      • So.
      • reosarevok had a bit of talk yesterday about the current situation with AE election.
      • Summary and our proposed "workflow"/temp. system can be seen at...
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      • New temp. AE election system:
      • 1) Proposer creates elections and adds post in AE category.
      • 2) You mail out to all AEs with a link to the election topic (and a link to the blog post, if we make one, to explain the current situation?).
      • 3) Proposer/you/me/AEs update the thread when status of the election changes (2nders found, passed, rejected).