mildused: I've been using it for a while, but I want to try to learn how the program is made cross-platform and possibly make my own edits
2015-12-01 33534, 2015
FloorMuse
Freso: My error :). Although, I have tried to install metabrainz server before, and I don't have the compatible hardware
2015-12-01 33545, 2015
mildused
FloorMuse, Picard is built using QT4. QT4 is a Python cross-platform application and UI framework. You can easily edit the source with a GUI like QTDesigner. If you've used Visual Studio, imagine something similar...
2015-12-01 33551, 2015
Freso
FloorMuse: I'm guessing you're thinking of musicbrainz-server now. ;)
2015-12-01 33505, 2015
Freso
metabrainz-server doesn't really demand a lot of ressources.
2015-12-01 33510, 2015
Freso
*resources
2015-12-01 33527, 2015
FloorMuse
Freso: The recommendations are listed as 2 gigabytes of ram for the VM...
2015-12-01 33533, 2015
FloorMuse
I am running 4gb
2015-12-01 33535, 2015
Freso
FloorMuse: For musicbrainz-server.
2015-12-01 33540, 2015
Freso
Not metabrainz-server.
2015-12-01 33548, 2015
FloorMuse
Ohhh
2015-12-01 33501, 2015
Freso
MetaBrainz has *a lot* of different projects.
2015-12-01 33510, 2015
FloorMuse
So musicbrainz-server does require a lot of hardware?
2015-12-01 33511, 2015
Freso
MusicBrainz is "just" one of these projects.
2015-12-01 33515, 2015
FloorMuse
That may have been what I tried
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Freso
Not necessarily a lot, but certainly something beefier than an RPi. :)
2015-12-01 33534, 2015
mildused
FloorMuse, Don't worry. I had the same confusion when I first started recently.
2015-12-01 33513, 2015
FloorMuse
Freso: So to install the musicbrainz server, I just install it in VM, and once it boots, it'll all be working?
2015-12-01 33519, 2015
FloorMuse
Nothing extra to install?
2015-12-01 33528, 2015
FloorMuse
I'm on Archy Linux, is that a problem?
2015-12-01 33540, 2015
mildused
Freso, Another one for Arch. Are you keeping track?
2015-12-01 33549, 2015
Freso
FloorMuse: Didn't you just say that you were on a Pi of some sort?
2015-12-01 33512, 2015
Freso
If so, don't even bother trying to get musicbrainz-server running. It will be painful.
2015-12-01 33516, 2015
Freso
mildused: Nope.
2015-12-01 33534, 2015
FloorMuse
No. I was originally trying to make picard running, but it wasn't working until mildused assisted me
2015-12-01 33548, 2015
FloorMuse
but I guess I'll also go with the musicbrainz-server
2015-12-01 33557, 2015
FloorMuse
I'm on a 4gb Arch Linux distro.
2015-12-01 33503, 2015
Freso
FloorMuse: Is there a reason you're not using the picard or picard-git packages?
2015-12-01 33535, 2015
FloorMuse
Freso: You mean the pre configured installations?
2015-12-01 33540, 2015
Freso
Yes.
2015-12-01 33556, 2015
FloorMuse
Freso: Not especially. I may have some plugins I would wish to write
2015-12-01 33525, 2015
FloorMuse
Freso: Are you the boss?
2015-12-01 33532, 2015
Freso
That can be done using a system-installed instance though. :)
FloorMuse: Our legal basis is in California, the "CEO" and one of the developers live in Barcelona (Spain), the lead developer lives in (somewhere-I-always-forgot in the US), our system administrator, zas, lives in France, and I'm in Copenhagen, Denmark.
I am, but idk if I'd go with the MetaBrainz community for this :( My expertise would rather be suitable for Mediawiki
2015-12-01 33558, 2015
Freso
Oh, and our random jobs guy, reosarevok, lives in Estonia.
2015-12-01 33522, 2015
Freso
FloorMuse: I'm sure they would love to have you. :)
2015-12-01 33556, 2015
mildused
FloorMuse, I understand where youre coming from, and I did some work at Mediawiki just a little bit ago. Regardless, both communities are very active and welcoming. I just feel like I found a better home here. After all, it is your choice, and you should join an organization that suits you and you truly believe in. Think of the contest as just a segue into a bustling coding world.
2015-12-01 33542, 2015
FloorMuse
mildused: Well when you put it like that, in the short time I've been here, I have felt really comfortable. Thanks to you mildused and Freso
2015-12-01 33517, 2015
Freso
:)
2015-12-01 33522, 2015
FloorMuse
mildused: Since we're both in the competition, can we work together?
2015-12-01 33555, 2015
mildused
FloorMuse, The prizes are awarded individually, so Google's rules do not recommend teams, for only one person can win the prize through a group.
But you're perfectly allowed (and encouraged!) to help each other here on IRC and via other channels!
2015-12-01 33509, 2015
Freso
That's what open source and open data is all about: sharing knowledge!
2015-12-01 33533, 2015
FloorMuse
mildused: Umm. I was just looking for a partner to help me get started and maybe guide me through some tasks one the competition starts.
2015-12-01 33540, 2015
darwin
that and getting toasted.. nicely toasted..
2015-12-01 33545, 2015
mildused
FloorMuse, I guess that is fine. As Freso said, it is safe to stick to the IRC and post questions here. Someone is bound to help you out. Oh, btw. We are also given mentors to help us out
FloorMuse: Each task has at least one mentor assigned, but in addition to that mentor, there are a ton of people both here and in #musicbrainz, a lot of whom will be able to help you out with specific questions.
2015-12-01 33528, 2015
FloorMuse
mildused: You think you can help me solve a few tasks once the competition starts?
2015-12-01 33538, 2015
Freso
Just keep in mind that not everybody is around at the same time, even if we try to make sure there's always some around.
2015-12-01 33557, 2015
mildused
FloorMuse, Umm. Sure. I guess. Although we will be competing against each other, I guess I don't mind losing a few tasks in the cause of growing the community.
2015-12-01 33527, 2015
Freso
FloorMuse: As mildused and I said, the tasks you pick have mentors assigned, who are supposed to also help guide you through the task.
2015-12-01 33546, 2015
FloorMuse
Freso: Thanks so much, I have to sign off now.
2015-12-01 33542, 2015
FloorMuse
mildused: Best of luck on the competition. I'm going to kick your butt. Your knowledge of this seems to be quite rudimentary...
2015-12-01 33504, 2015
Freso
mildused: It's a friendly competition though. I'd rather have a winner who may have a few less tasks under their belt because they helped other students (and thus the total sum of tasks completed is higher because of that), than someone who has twice as many done tasks but never interacted positively with their fellow students and actively got in their way etc.
2015-12-01 33520, 2015
Freso
One of the goals of the GCI is also to foster new contributors to the projects, which means that you have to be able to continue to work together after the GCI as well.
2015-12-01 33535, 2015
FloorMuse
See mildused. You're confused. Understand what MusicBrainz is looking for!
2015-12-01 33539, 2015
Freso
That can be difficult if you've been doing hostile competition.
2015-12-01 33540, 2015
FloorMuse
MetaBrainz*
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Freso
:)
2015-12-01 33506, 2015
FloorMuse
mildused: Stop getting hostile bro
2015-12-01 33507, 2015
Freso
I'm pretty sure this goes for Drupal, Wikimedia, etc. as well.
2015-12-01 33529, 2015
Freso
FloorMuse: They never were though? mildused did offer to help you get started etc. ;)
2015-12-01 33548, 2015
FloorMuse
mildused didn't even understand that number of tasks didn't matter
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Freso
I didn't say number of tasks don't matter.
2015-12-01 33558, 2015
Freso
I just said it isn't the be-all and end-all of it.
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FloorMuse
Freso: Don't worry. I'll make sure a joke like mildused doesn't win.
2015-12-01 33546, 2015
Freso
^ that's rather hostile comment though.
2015-12-01 33555, 2015
FloorMuse
Fight fire with fire
2015-12-01 33512, 2015
Freso
But mildused was never hostile?
2015-12-01 33511, 2015
FloorMuse
Freso: Didn't you see what he said. He was reluctant to help me. He said ummm and I guess. He doesn't want to help me truly
2015-12-01 33518, 2015
FloorMuse
He's just looking for points
2015-12-01 33522, 2015
FloorMuse
Freso: mildused doesnt deserve to win if he keeps that up right?
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Freso
FloorMuse: Because he's new. He has been around for... less than a week? So likely not the one best suited to help you out.
2015-12-01 33512, 2015
FloorMuse
Exactly. He has no knowledge at all of this code for metabrainz projects. How can he offer to help me?
2015-12-01 33521, 2015
FloorMuse
As reluctantly as he did
2015-12-01 33516, 2015
FloorMuse
mildused: Do you know anything about the Metabrainz code?
2015-12-01 33557, 2015
FloorMuse
I have a really diverse github. I can prove that I know more code than you mildused
2015-12-01 33550, 2015
FloorMuse
The coward probably ignored me. I'll fight him at Code-In and ruin his chances
2015-12-01 33537, 2015
FloorMuse
Freso: Thank you for your professional help. Mildused was very unprofessional
2015-12-01 33559, 2015
FloorMuse
mildused: I hope you figure out how code works. Seems like you are scared of competition. I will murder your challenge
2015-12-01 33557, 2015
Freso
FloorMuse: Honestly, between the two of you, you're the one coming off rude and unprofessional.
2015-12-01 33516, 2015
darwin
(uh, yeah, what the hell? "murder your challenge"?)
2015-12-01 33526, 2015
FloorMuse
Freso: Do you agree that mildused was too?
2015-12-01 33532, 2015
Freso
Not really, no.
2015-12-01 33547, 2015
FloorMuse
It is so obvious though
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darwin
(you seemed to really take it and run with it, even if it were obvious, which it isn't? why assume personal bad faith etc?)
2015-12-01 33526, 2015
CallerNo6
"Trash-talk is a form of boast or insult commonly heard in competitive situations." thanks wikipedia!
2015-12-01 33543, 2015
FloorMuse
Ohh. I can just send him a private message. We will settle this there.
