#metabrainz

Hi,

🙋

Hey

I have been bogged down with coursework, getting it done around thursday so will get back looking through the code and getting involved around then

Fantastic. :)

but not much to report this week really, looking forward to getting stuck in though :)

So are we!

Also, remember this is the "community bonding" phase, so just hanging around and chatting is also fine. :)

Anyway, thanks QuoraUK :)

yeah, thats cool cheers

nothing to report as of now, was busy with exams and assignments.

👍

hellska is not around.

kartikgupta0909 is not around.

(would join the league from next week:) )

cetko is not around.

I guess that's it for this week then. :)

May I pose a question to the group?

chrisskye: Shoot.

Does anyone recall any information about MusicReports using MusicBrainz?

I have them on my list...made contact...but can’t justify how/where I got the lead...

I read that they have their own database maybe...

If anyone knows or hear’s of anything...to remind me why they were on my radar - I’d be grateful!!!

Songdex® is the world's largest and fastest-growing registry of music copyright and related business information, containing detailed, relational data on tens of millions of songs, recordings, and their owners, covering virtually all of the commercially significant music in existence.

Looks too good... ;)

^so how’d it get constructed? And, who is feeding it?

"commericlally significant"

*commercially

chrisskye: http://chatlogs.metabrainz.org/brainzbot/metabr... ?

bitmap bit me to it. :)

:) thanks

Alright, and with that, let's call it quits. :)

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Thanks for your time everyone.

As I said earlier, I'll be sending an e-mail to our 7 GSoC students asking that they come say hi next week, so hopefully people will be around to say hi back. ;)

Ooops, missed the /BANG

http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/PICARD-811 <--- we need to release a new version of Picard soon ;)

How do you think those 40 musicologists check on data?

zas: We've need to release a new version of Picard soon for a while now. :p

*needed

chrisskye: Ask them. Search their db for MusicBrainz Test Artist.

Freso: i mean, we _really_ need to do it ;)

zas: I don't disagree. :)

That said, i'm really unsure about fixes needed, so if someone wants to help on this.... rahulr ?

I have a reply from someone in licensing (legal?) isn’t the department that is friendly about questions.

zas: I don't think releasing a new version of picard allows switching to https for the web service any time soon - half the world is most likely not going to get that new version for at least several months

Project musicbrainz-server_master build #384: ABORTED in 1 min 8 sec: https://ci.metabrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-serve...

Mineo: this is why we need to release soon, we will not switch to https-only until main apps are compliant enough

chrisskye: see the last question of their FAQ

"You can register your entire song catalog with us and update us as you add or remove works from your catalog over time. The best way to send catalog information to us is to send an excel spreadsheet to ..."

hmmmm

The excel part is dedicated to ruaok ;)

And with that they are “the world’s largest and fastest growing”?

that system?

Yes ofc ;) i think we need to understand "commercially significant" as "commercially significant for Music Reports".

lol. ok.

I can’t find any access to their database.

Nor i, i doubt they have any public access anyway

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_Reports says "Music Reports has compiled and maintains SONGDEX, a proprietary database of over 70 million sound recordings and related musical compositions, publishers, composers, and related payment information."

https://www.musicreports.com/#terms says "The information contained in the database has been provided to or obtained by MRI from a variety of sources, and MRI makes no warranties or representations whatsoever with respect to its accuracy." ...

What are the odds MB is one of those ‘variety of sources’?

I guess it does not matter...unless I can find “specific information” supporting a claim that they use our database...they aren’t going to talk to me. :/

Plus they are "Delaware-based" according to WP, while it is quite unobvious from their website (contact in CA) ;)

most american corporations are based in delaware legally

because it is the most favorable corporate environment legally

darwin: Yo!

PM?

//query

LordSputnik, looking at https://docs.atlassian.com/jira/REST/latest/ and some of the principles (for documentation and for resources) may be good to consider as we build -ws.

zas, Ok. Will look into it as soon as I can.

i.e. 811.

rahulr: basically, there are a core issue with the way 301 responses are handled (Picard handles them as a 302, which isn't much an issue for now), but the PR i made needs to be tested

heh https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/4g...

zas, Got it. Will ping you later about this.

rahulr: thank you :)

ugh. london weather. da hell is wrong?

ruaok: what about it? seems OK here, although there were hailstones earlier :P

4C?

It was 25C over the weekend here. I put away my "winter" clothes.

plex.tv

intentionally without the off. so everyone knows whats up

👍

They were the ones with the banned IPs too, right?

yep

and "have stopped using your service" really means, "your sysadmin blocked the shit out of us"

True.

ok, bed time. flight in 7.5 hours.

Well, shitty that they've been hitting us so hard, but sounds like they're at least seeing that that's not the way forward. :)

Bona nit ruaok

nn all, sorry for missing the meeting freso, but tonight was really worth it. met a great MB fan.

nn ruaok

he was so excited to be working with us. just as we are to be working with him. good stuff.

ruaok: Sure, no problem. Nothing of importance tonight. :)

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Fantastic :D

Heh, Plex hit my api around 90million times a month, they are our biggest hitter

What are some crowd-sourced metadata sites that are not *Brainz sites?

Oh, I guess all the Kodi ones.

Ehm.

I mean the The*DB.com's.

>_>

Hmm, doesn't Kodi also host their own MB mirror?

I think so.

But that was not what I was after. :)

I was looking for examples of "crowd-sourced metadata sites that are not *Brainz sites".

There are crowd-sourced metadata sites that aren't *Brainz? :-P

Yeah, I realize that, it just seems like a dick move for a commercial service like Plex to just use MB directly when free competitors have done it a lot better

But Kodi (XBMC at the time) was how I found out about MB :D

That site I mentioned is run by a team kodi member

They are only dependent on metadata though