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      • reosarevok
        I think the issue is it goes out of sync with each schema change and dies and nobody wants to bother fixing it because well, it's not our main product, it's just stuff for software which doesn't use MB...
      • 2016-06-20 17207, 2016

      • rahulr
        ruaok: I got left.. :)
      • 2016-06-20 17213, 2016

      • reosarevok
        Oh. rahulr: go :)
      • 2016-06-20 17216, 2016

      • ruaok
        shit, sorry rahulr. :(
      • 2016-06-20 17220, 2016

      • ruaok
        yeah, go.
      • 2016-06-20 17222, 2016

      • rahulr
        NP :)
      • 2016-06-20 17223, 2016

      • ruaok
        see, not tracking well.
      • 2016-06-20 17231, 2016

      • rahulr
        I've been working on finishing up the track search dialog box.
      • 2016-06-20 17243, 2016

      • rahulr
        Added a search box into that dialog, so one can search further without closing the dialog.
      • 2016-06-20 17251, 2016

      • rahulr
        Added support for advanced query syntax for searching tracks from within Picard, though hacky.
      • 2016-06-20 17200, 2016

      • rahulr
        Opened up a PR related to my work -> https://github.com/metabrainz/picard/pull/475
      • 2016-06-20 17209, 2016

      • rahulr
        Here's a screenshot of current state of the box -> http://imgur.com/kUkXagC
      • 2016-06-20 17215, 2016

      • rahulr
        That's all. Fin. :)
      • 2016-06-20 17220, 2016

      • CatQuest
        noice!
      • 2016-06-20 17237, 2016

      • ruaok
        thanks rahulr
      • 2016-06-20 17242, 2016

      • ruaok
        back to freedb vm.
      • 2016-06-20 17251, 2016

      • ruaok
        this is why I was against this project in the first place.
      • 2016-06-20 17252, 2016

      • bitmap
        rahulr: I'll have the dismax changes on beta.mb.org later today, btw
      • 2016-06-20 17212, 2016

      • ruaok
        if people want to use MB, why can't you fucking change your client? its been *10* years.
      • 2016-06-20 17229, 2016

      • ruaok
        how about we do this: we sunset the project in 1 year.
      • 2016-06-20 17236, 2016

      • ruaok
        change your shit or go back to freedb.
      • 2016-06-20 17239, 2016

      • ruaok
        thoughts?
      • 2016-06-20 17217, 2016

      • reosarevok
        If we can't make the updating automatic, +1
      • 2016-06-20 17224, 2016

      • ruaok
        we can't.
      • 2016-06-20 17241, 2016

      • ruaok
        chirlu: thoughts on restarting it? want a VM yet? :)
      • 2016-06-20 17250, 2016

      • chirlu
        Well, I’m not particularly attached to it even though I agreed to maintain it, since I’m not using it myself.
      • 2016-06-20 17212, 2016

      • chirlu
        Yes, I’ve warmed up on the idea of a Google VM. :)
      • 2016-06-20 17222, 2016

      • ruaok
        i appreciate your efforts doubly then. :)
      • 2016-06-20 17237, 2016

      • chirlu
        Also because if the current VM is fixed, we still have the issue of an outdated Postgres.
      • 2016-06-20 17242, 2016

      • ruaok
        ok, send me an email with the specs. pick a machine from the cloud compute line up and let me know how much disk you want.
      • 2016-06-20 17250, 2016

      • ruaok
        yerp.
      • 2016-06-20 17215, 2016

      • ruaok
        or just tell me here and I'll make a VM after the meeting.
      • 2016-06-20 17229, 2016

      • chirlu
        So if I can install Pg 9.5 on the Google VM, that would probably be the simpler solution.
      • 2016-06-20 17235, 2016

      • ruaok
        someone remind me later to sunset the freedb gateway by posting a blog post.
      • 2016-06-20 17241, 2016

      • ruaok
        that is the idea.
      • 2016-06-20 17258, 2016

      • ruaok
        google will not complain about what we do with their VMs, the way OSU complains.
      • 2016-06-20 17223, 2016

      • ruaok
        ok, I think freso just wanted to remind people about filling out the mid-term evals.
      • 2016-06-20 17225, 2016

      • ruaok
        so, do it!
      • 2016-06-20 17235, 2016

      • ruaok
        last topic: INST. reosarevok: go
      • 2016-06-20 17202, 2016

      • reosarevok
        So, CatQuest asked if he can be the default asignee for INST (kinda like drsaunder is for AREA) and just ask me if he has doubts
      • 2016-06-20 17215, 2016

      • ruaok
        on jira?
      • 2016-06-20 17216, 2016

      • reosarevok
        I think that sounds fine, but I thought it'd be reasonable to make sure it's ok with others
      • 2016-06-20 17218, 2016

      • reosarevok
        yep
      • 2016-06-20 17221, 2016

      • CatQuest
        yes
      • 2016-06-20 17227, 2016

      • ruaok has no issues with that
      • 2016-06-20 17232, 2016

      • reosarevok
        Ok :)
      • 2016-06-20 17237, 2016

      • reosarevok
        That was easy :p
      • 2016-06-20 17243, 2016

      • CatQuest
        ja jøss
      • 2016-06-20 17201, 2016

      • ruaok
        anyone else have any objections?
      • 2016-06-20 17253, 2016

      • ruaok hears none.
      • 2016-06-20 17255, 2016

      • ruaok
        reosarevok: bake it so.
      • 2016-06-20 17256, 2016

      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: so basically I'd say "add directly only if Wikipedia shows it as a different instrument, if not let me know and let's go over it together quickly" if that's ok with you?
      • 2016-06-20 17213, 2016

      • CatQuest
        totally :D
      • 2016-06-20 17220, 2016

      • reosarevok
        Ok! :)
      • 2016-06-20 17228, 2016

      • ruaok
        yay.
      • 2016-06-20 17235, 2016

      • ruaok
        ok, all done with time to spare.
      • 2016-06-20 17241, 2016

      • ruaok
        thanks everyone
      • 2016-06-20 17243, 2016

      • ruaok
        </BANG>
      • 2016-06-20 17256, 2016

      • ruaok
      • 2016-06-20 17210, 2016

      • ruaok
        n1-standard-2 or n1-standard-4 with 100GB of disk would be my guess
      • 2016-06-20 17211, 2016

      • chirlu
        I’ll look at it in an hour or so.
      • 2016-06-20 17219, 2016

      • ruaok
        k
      • 2016-06-20 17232, 2016

      • chirlu
        What I find interesting is that people apparently write a lot to the support email, but there are no complaints at all in most other channels. :) (Discourse, JIRA; a few questions were there on IRC.)
      • 2016-06-20 17238, 2016

      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: what out of your twenty usernames is the jira one? I forget :p
      • 2016-06-20 17245, 2016

      • CatQuest
        :P
      • 2016-06-20 17247, 2016

      • reosarevok
        chirlu: a few on twitter too
      • 2016-06-20 17222, 2016

      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: zaphod, I think (though I think it dispalys as catquest tec!)
      • 2016-06-20 17234, 2016

      • CatQuest
        also i have like 4
      • 2016-06-20 17241, 2016

      • ruaok
        4??
      • 2016-06-20 17245, 2016

      • ruaok
        40. :)
      • 2016-06-20 17247, 2016

      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: done :)
      • 2016-06-20 17254, 2016

      • CatQuest
        :o :D
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      • QuoraUK
        Leftmost: ping
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      • QuoraUK
        Leftmost: I presume you are still busy, thats not a problem :) Ill just leave an update here
      • 2016-06-20 17201, 2016

      • Leftmost
        QuoraUK, pong. Sorry about that.
      • 2016-06-20 17209, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        oh >.< haha, no worries
      • 2016-06-20 17239, 2016

      • Leftmost
        I have impeccable timing. Terrible, but impeccable. :)
      • 2016-06-20 17203, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        haha, not a problem, I just finished for the day, so right on time :)
      • 2016-06-20 17238, 2016

      • Leftmost
        So how does this usually work? Haven't had time to peruse the logs.
      • 2016-06-20 17252, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        pretty much just go over what I did in the day
      • 2016-06-20 17210, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        perhaps comment on anything you may have seen that could do with changing
      • 2016-06-20 17232, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        questions or comments to finish usually :)
      • 2016-06-20 17203, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        So today I figured out the react problem I was having, so profiles are complete except for maaking them pretty and some error handling
      • 2016-06-20 17220, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        got the streak achievements all done
      • 2016-06-20 17244, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        made a start on the admin system, and drew up a few more badges
      • 2016-06-20 17216, 2016

      • Leftmost
        Do you have a working doc with the achievements/badges you're planning, maybe some status info?
      • 2016-06-20 17216, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        so im planning on using the BB dev docs for that, I can add them to it tommorow
      • 2016-06-20 17227, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        I dont have a document at the moment
      • 2016-06-20 17233, 2016

      • Leftmost
        Alright. That may be a useful thing to put together if you have some time in the next couple days, especially since Ben and I will be meeting with you at different times.
      • 2016-06-20 17241, 2016

      • Leftmost
        Might help us both keep track of your progress. :)
      • 2016-06-20 17219, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        noted, I'll make a start on that in the morning :)
      • 2016-06-20 17220, 2016

      • Leftmost
        Thanks. Mostly I need to get up to speed, and that would help a fair bit. So let me know if this sounds about right: database layout and JS access layer are generally in place, now it's planning out the actual achievements and providing the necessary UI bits?
      • 2016-06-20 17245, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        pretty much yeah
      • 2016-06-20 17207, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        there are the odd little things to add to the the db and access layers, but most of the stuff I need is there
      • 2016-06-20 17252, 2016

      • Leftmost
        Sounds good. I'm glancing at the PRs that are out at the moment.
      • 2016-06-20 17200, 2016

      • Leftmost
        Or rather, branches.
      • 2016-06-20 17207, 2016

      • Freso
        ruaok: In the mail, I had written exactly what I wanted to say for the GSoC topic...
      • 2016-06-20 17227, 2016

      • TOPIC: MetaBrainz Community and Development channel | MusicBrainz non-development: #musicbrainz | MeB meeting agenda: Reviews
      • 2016-06-20 17202, 2016

      • Leftmost
        QuoraUK, how are restricted permissions enforced on the admin page, if at all?
      • 2016-06-20 17234, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        at the moment they aren't I only just setup the basics of it
      • 2016-06-20 17241, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        That was going to be one of my questions though
      • 2016-06-20 17255, 2016

      • Leftmost
        Alright. I think that's something we may need to address in a broader way.
      • 2016-06-20 17258, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        As in, is there any notion of an admin at the moment
      • 2016-06-20 17212, 2016

      • Leftmost
        There isn't, and I'd been meaning to bring that up.
      • 2016-06-20 17226, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        I see >.<
      • 2016-06-20 17204, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        would it be something that may be implemented in the near future?
      • 2016-06-20 17216, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        Or something we could discuss in the next bb meeting
      • 2016-06-20 17222, 2016

      • Leftmost
        Yeah, it should be a fairly simple fix and I might just take it on in the next couple days.
      • 2016-06-20 17251, 2016

      • Leftmost
        Your code is probably fine as-is for the moment, since we won't be pushing the code out any time soon. Maybe add a XXX comment saying to switch it over to admin-only privs.
      • 2016-06-20 17208, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        ok, yeah I will do that :)
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      • Leftmost
        A couple comments on the code. Would it be most helpful to point them out here or inline on github?
      • 2016-06-20 17222, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        Inline would be handy :)
      • 2016-06-20 17233, 2016

      • Leftmost
        Okay, cool. I'll do so this evening.
      • 2016-06-20 17234, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        thats what LordSputnik has been doing for the most part
      • 2016-06-20 17238, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        awesome, cheers
      • 2016-06-20 17204, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        I have one question before we go If we are done with the comments
      • 2016-06-20 17211, 2016

      • Leftmost
        I don't have much more to say at the moment, just looking through code to see what's what. Any questions, comments, insinuations, short bursts of song?
      • 2016-06-20 17214, 2016

      • Leftmost
        Go for it.
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      • QuoraUK
        I was curious if anything differentiates creation of an entity from editing
      • 2016-06-20 17256, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        its different in code, but I cant find a field or anything that I can make use of to determine it
      • 2016-06-20 17223, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        im just using no. of revisions of that type at the moment
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      • Leftmost
        The way we currently determine that, if I recall, is whether the parent of a revision is set.
      • 2016-06-20 17256, 2016

      • Leftmost
        If there's no parent revision, it's a creation event.
      • 2016-06-20 17211, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        so would that be in X_data relationtion_set
      • 2016-06-20 17258, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        I thought it would be publication_header.master_revision_id originally but that didn't work out
      • 2016-06-20 17213, 2016

      • Leftmost
        No, the revision table should have a parent relation on it. One sec.
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      • QuoraUK
        Ahh! I see, I was looking In the wrong place thanks :(
      • 2016-06-20 17215, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        :)*
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      • Leftmost
        No problem!
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      • QuoraUK
        Thats it from me today I think
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      • Leftmost
        Alright, cool. I'll drop in some comments on the commits. If you could ping me with the doc URL whenever you have a chance to put that together, I'd much appreciate it.
      • 2016-06-20 17206, 2016

      • QuoraUK
        sure, will do. Cheers
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