#metabrainz

Alright then.

chirlu, public Jira votes!

Leo_Verto: radio! (eg together with the "artist" tuff)

(ie do you work for a label, radio etc)

ah

For others (except admins), only the number of votes for a ticket is shown, but not who left the votes.

I propose to change that.

question: why?

Question: Why not? Why should it be secret that I support ticket X?

perhaps to dissuade people from doing lal "why didn't you vote for x!!" etc

Is there any value gained in knowing exactly who voted for a given ticket?

I don't see a problem with showing who voted for tickets

Makes sense to me. If somebody votes, but doesn't comment, at least you'd know who to ask when looking for comments.

chirlu: why is it useful to know who voted for what?

Freso|laptop: that's what i was thinking

CallerNo6: ah, that I guess is useful...

One example (that prompted me to propose this):

I don't see a problem with not showing it either. CallerNo6, how often has that been an issue?

CallerNo6: LordSputnik true, but on the other hand perhaps people would want not to be bothered with question about all the tickets they've voted on

also for example I assume everyone who voted for OTHER-261 actually wants stickers :P

There was an MBS issue that I didn’t understand. Somebody voted for it, so obviously *they* had understood what it was about.

But since I didn’t know who it was, I couldn’t ask them to clarify.

you asked on the ticket though, and that wwould have prompted whomever to reply if they wanted to

And if people don’t want to be bothered, they don’t seem so into the ticket that they should have voted in the first place …

I see chirlu's point.

When someone comments, that’s public, too.

Freso|laptop, I think it has a /potential/ use if not an /urgent/ one :-)

(Not only the comment itself, but the identity of who commented, too.)

i've voted for *a lot* of tickets over the years. i don't want peopel to start hounding me for reasons why i voted for a ticket (or not)

chirlu: yes but like voting, it's optional, and already obvious that it's going ot be visible

do everyone who's voted on every ticet understadn that this will show?

I always thought votes were visible to everyone

We could announce a change on the blog and give people, say, two weeks time to remove votes they don’t want to be seen with.

(and also what ticets *havent* been voted on)

Didn't realise it's just an admin thing

how do yousee what you've voted for?

CatQuest, you can search/filter for that.

I think I can make one that works for whomever is logged in you can use.

i mena, i don't *really* care, i just don't want peopel to like. bother me about why or why not i vote for a jira ticket. if i want to talk about it i will comment

So non-admins don't get a clickable number of votes?

Of course, I agree that people should not be pressured into voting/not voting for something. If someone tries that, we should tell them off.

reosarevok: No, only a non-clickable number, but it’s configurable who gets what.

how about only being visible to people who have accounts?

that's like on mb proper

That can probably be done.

That would be fine for me.

Since I have an account. ;-)

well genreally people who have accounts eithe report bugs or wrk on bugs s oit woudl be thme that cares about who votes for what.. i guess

So, proposal: 1) blog post to announce the change, 2) two weeks later, make votes visible to users with an account.

I'm not even sure we need to announce the change

But we haven't had many blog posts lately, so I guess why not :D

Or maybe just make the change and announce it at the same time, if we're going to make the change.

Anyone against chirlu's proposal, say FUZZLE.

^ should show each user their voted-for issues.

I'd say it's better to announce since thing that was private before is not going to be private anymore

Anyone for chirlu's proposal, say EH.

eh

EH

eh ( but not militantly)

am i allowed to say "meh" ?

eh

CatCat, I'm not saying anything either way, as I'm not really convinced either way. :)

(been typing up reply to leo_verto's thinger)

the "Filters" dropdown on a jira profile page also has links to votes, votes & open, etc. filters

Alright. Motion carried.

Anything else anyone want to talk about?

chirlu, will you write up a blog post?

I guess I will have to, unless someone else would like to.

you're the one that started this

Alright then.

Moving on.

Thanks for tonight!

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Leo_Verto:

Leo_Verto: for interfacelanguage: something about asking which interface language they'd use if we had *all* of them. or if they'd just want english anyway..

also how familiar with mjority of artists.. that I .. might be you start of with more known stuff nd gradually start "adopting" pet artists and later just do things "for hire" (myself case in point) perhaps a mosre scope-y question: like give a short summary of what kinds of artist(s) you've added (what did you addfirst, what are you adding now, what are you going to add in the future, etc)

under knowledge of advanced features: add series, labels, events, places, also maybe a questino about "do you edit" in addition to "do you know" ?

been, typing up stuff for you

thanks :D

gcilou/Freso: I have an idea for an easy design task – make a vector replacement for the rating stars: https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...

what does "rate 1- 3" mean though? one is have known and 3 is use frequently?

gcilou, ^ will you enter that?

CatQuest, better?

natta freso?

Leo_Verto: yea :D

Freso, chirlu: sure

CatQuest, not quite yet. Pizza and Dishonored 2 first. =)

\o_

CatQuest, as for the familiarity with artists, I wouldn't make it too complicated

and I was planning to have a "I just love data" option for "Why do you use MB?"

oh I have some ideas under "improvement ideas" maybe: "what is the best about" "what is the worst" and "if you could change one thing about (whatever) what woudl you andhow?

gcilou: Essentially just a five-corner star that can be coloured differently.

Leo_Verto: :D

ok

reosarevok: that looks sketchy

gcilou: I'm fairly sure it's legit, but it's probably one minute long weirdly-sounding contemporary classical

(I mean, the guy is in MB, so he exists :D )

Leftmost: got time to have a quick look over the changes I pushed yesterday to entity-editing? Then I'll know whether to keep going in the same direction :)

choooocolatecake

best cake, mother's recepie..

best chocolate cake ever and it doesn't have any actual chocolate in it (only cocoa)

lol :P

not lol, awesome

hehe yes :P

CatQuest, heresy! it must have tiny pieces of chocolate in it

der dro han

Leo_Verto: it's already made with literally butter, confectionary sugar and cocoa, and eggs, that's the cream, the cake is eggs and sugar and a little bit of flour

(and cocoa)

CatQuest, going back, I think every vote or poll should have a "meh" option.

it doenst need chocolate

CallerNo6: :D

"Meh" is like the dark matter of human existence.

Or the space between atoms.

nah, it's the grey. it's all " meh"

space between atoms is non-existane, nothing, vacume

source: took physics 1 and 2

LordSputnik, at work at the moment, but I'll take a peek as soon as I get home.

Leftmost: ahh of course, OK!

Leo_Verto: final? for now, atleast: pretty much every question should have an " eaborate" or "optionally, tell us more" free text field. wheni take surveys, i don't always fill those out, but if theyre not threr I'll miss it when I wanted to elaborate or explain in detail.

CatQuest, okay!

I'll probably post it to the forums to get some more feedback

good idea!

and also ask that UX person what they'd want to know

I am already thinking botu how to play to some of these questions :D

reply not play

:D

https://codein.withgoogle.com/dashboard/tasks/4... ; https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9157

Leo_Verto: when yo udo, ping or link me the community post (or mention me in it then I'll get pinged on community (and get an email think))

will do!

:D

oh. Our missing mentor (ohm) should be present sometime this week since his break is starting at school

hey, are GCI tasks open only to GCI students?

I mean, people outside of GCI cant complete actual gci *tasks* but they can certainly work on issues

The rule should be, if you close a ticket that was a GCI task, you should have to open two new tickets in its place.

lol