#metabrainz

As I said, we don't allow home-made compilations

key word official

If we have some, they should probably be removed, unless they're *widely* circulated bootlegs

but even *official* compilations should be overriden by the creator of that song himself

Why?

if you sell your compilation, that's official, because you surely got all the licenses for distributing, right?

If I have a compilation, I want to tag with it

If I have "The Best 100 Love Songs of the 80s", why would I want each track to be tagged as some different album?

i wouldn't want to tag that song with te originla album (evne tho i'm sure it's awesome too)

well then whats the point?

accuracy

accuracy

sure that benefits you but what about everyone else?

ehm

we are the everyone else

in that case accuracy would be relative

We have the original album. We also have the original compilation. We know both exist, and both can be used

you are the first person which has a problem with that.

How is that inaccurate or problematic?

especially if you can configure the tagger to do as yo uwant

you have a song from compilation a, i got it from compilation b

who has the right one?

If it's the same, the recording will be shared by both compilations

then yo ushoudl tag it with compilation b!

wouldnt the official artist of that song be the most accurat?

What's "the right one"?

well the artist sholdn't be differnt

but what about the album made by the artist

yes?

That is also available, and you're very welcome to purchase? I guess

* + it

you get the track from ther yo utag it from there

but why isnt that the default?

If I'm ripping the original album, I'll tag it with the original album, obviously

if you got the track from the album, then you should tag it with data from the album. if you got it from a compilation, you should tag it with data from the compilation.

i dont have a problem with compilations

that's accuracy yea. especially with fingerprints

but i have a problem when they get selected over the original

and we say: yo ucna make picard *not* do that

If you have the original album, just tag with the album. Scan isn't always ideal for that, cluster + lookup can be better for full-album tagging if you have the full album and half-decent tags

Since scan can't know where you got it from, but lookup can use your current album title field for a best guess

yes!

(don't submit he fingerprint unless you're sure it really *is* the same recording tho)

also: if I have the digital track "Celebration" (Kool and the Gang), I almost certainly got it from one of the bajillion compilations that it's on, not from the album.

I'm not 100% sure what's the first Scan pick if you don't configure anything

exactly

samj1912 might know

what im asking, is that with scan, without knowing the source or whatever, why isnt the original the default?

becasue you ahvent configured picard to do what yo uwant

yet

Because there's no reason to believe the file came from the original album or single rather than any other source, for the average user

key word *default*

key words: for *you*

reosarevok, what??

" no reason to believe the file came from the original album or single" why not?

becasue there isn't

As CallerNo6 said: for many popular songs, it's much more likely that the average user got them from a compilation

compilations like ,excists

if the original author made the song why wouldnt you believe they made it?

x3YTjJV6asPhskrZ> : Sounds like you should use Picard option https://picard.musicbrainz.org/docs/options/#pr... if you haven't already

(many more people listen to "best of the 80s" compilations than to the full albums they came from)

if you have a compilaion where the artist i differnt yo umay have am isstagged cover

*sigh*

("least bad of the 80s", but otherwise +1)

CallerNo6: I'm the least bad of the 80s.

hey the 80's where ok CallerNo6 !

:D

reosarevok: XD

so basically we go with the inaccurate default because everyone does?

Ok, "not the worse of the 80s", at least

yes, the original artists made the songs, but that does not mean your particular mp3 file was made from the original source. it could also come from a compilation.

x3YTjJV6asPhskrZ: I still don't understand why it is inaccurate

my god jsut think of "lambada" for m"kaoma" or any one hit wonder. hell, I don't evne know what album that is from, and it's one of my favourite sons :O

It would be inaccurate if that compilation didn't actually contain that track, of course

SothoTalker_, im talking about the exact same song

me too

well if it came from a compilation then fine, set it to the compilation

what if an artist has released the song on a few different releases?

do they have the same recording id?

It would also be inaccurate if the compilation claimed the track was by some other random artist, which sometimes happens, although we try to improve that

not compilations

CatQuest, yes

aahaa now we're geting to it

finally

you should have said that right away

i thought that was pretty obvious when i said the same recording

no, sorry, I missed that

(and "recording" cna be missunderstood)

also giving a link coudl be usefull to :)

it could still be the version from the compilation :D

okay, so, to sum up what im saying: with a single song, (same id, same recording same everything) but with different albums, some being compilations, why isnt the offical album the default selection?

In that case, we're giving you all the needed info: this is in both this compilation and this album. If you only listen to albums, take the compilation slider all the way to "ignore compilations", and the album one all the way to "always use albums"

iliekcomputers: latest PR deployed

What official album? :) The original vinyl? The original CD re-release? The latest re-release with bonus tracks on sale now?

:p

reosarevok, i did

It's never that simple

so then for x3YTjJV6asPhskrZ the albums *will* be default

but its not working here

ruaok: phew

if it's not working then that is a big in picard

bug*

I don't know exactly how it works to be fair, which is why I mentioned posting in the forum :) But it might be that Picard has a problem, yeah. It's just the problem is certainly not of what it picks by default

i think thats exactly what the problem is m8

I've (rarely) had it pick a compilation when I have an album

tangent: it'd be kinda cool to be able to express in tags "this recording came from this compilation, but also here's the original album info for reference"

In those cases, I check the recording, pick the right album, drag-and-drop, solved

:|

probably should have just switched to itunes

I guess it might be more common if I didn't listen mostly to obscure contemporary classical music and/or hip hop too new to be on rereleases, but

:D

great, now the compilation have album tags

Isn't that what you asked for?

.. yea?

reosarevok, i want the official stuff

aka albums

but im getting compilations

then make picard prefer album

because they have the album tag

Oh

i did

see this is why i never tag comps iwth "album" :D

hah

Sure, they're album + compilation. So that might be an issue with Picard if it can't ignore those

*sigh*

indeed

samj1912: do you know if that's the case?

that's soemthing we cna fix

(well they're compilation albums, after all :) )

:|

reosarevok: njaaa.. i don't really agree but i'm not winning that battle

isn't there a rule to disallow compilations? :D

I'd expect saying "no compilations" to also block anything that has X + compilation though

dragging the slider to 0? i did that

If it doesn't do that, that probably should be changed :)

yes

which version of picard?

reosarevok: it's late for sma and the indians tho, so maybe ask tomorrow morning