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      • samj1912
        ah looks like new edismax config is slightly broken :\
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      • TheFaR8
        Hi
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      • yvanzo
        hi
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      • TheFaR8
        In bookbrainz, seems like the creator's name isn't present in their work, or edition or publication.. what do you guys think about adding the name to the menu at the create work menu?
      • 2018-05-18 13841, 2018

      • yvanzo
        LordSputnik, Leftmost ^
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      • reosarevok
        TheFaR8: IIRC that's because relationships aren't properly in yet but LordSputnik is working on it, but he can give you a better answer :)
      • 2018-05-18 13853, 2018

      • reosarevok
        samj1912: should I be seeing anything different yet?
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      • TheFaR8
        okay can't wait :)
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      • github
        [musicbrainz-server] yvanzo closed pull request #669: Use the edismax endpoint for advanced searches (master...edismax) https://git.io/vpxnp
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      • yvanzo
        reosarevok: no
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      • yvanzo
        (not sure)
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      • samj1912
        not yet
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      • samj1912
        yvanzo: can you build a new test image for mbs?
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      • yvanzo
        samj1912: should I deploy a new test.mb.o now?
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      • yvanzo
        ok :)
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        US, UK, IT. lol
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      • ruaok
        \ø jesus2099
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      • jesus2099
        Hello there. yvanzo, bitmap, I have a severe bug in the release editor today, that I could not work around, apparently: https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-9716
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-9716: Release editor: Cannot make changes in Recordings tab
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      • jesus2099
        Hi ruaok! How are you?
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      • ruaok
        improving. you?
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      • ruaok
        enjoying the rail strikes? |-)
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      • jesus2099
        I see you’re all very busy with GDPR stuff! I’m very fine, beautiful weather helps a lot
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      • ruaok
        great to hear that. :)
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      • yvanzo
        hi jesus2099: on which release?
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      • jesus2099
        I’m lucky enough to work near my home, so strikes are no issue for me! B-)
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      • jesus2099
        Oh, I forgot… ticket is updated: https://musicbrainz.org/release/7ba5981b-8739-498…
      • 2018-05-18 13853, 2018

      • samj1912
        sigh, didn't know solr was WS sensitive - https://github.com/metabrainz/mbsssss/commit/206d…
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      • samj1912
        this broke everything :P
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      • samj1912
        yvanzo: let me know when new test.mb is deployed
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      • yvanzo
        build is not finished
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      • samj1912
        reosarevok: you can then test via enabling the advanced search (the simple search will return the wrong results)
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      • reosarevok
        jesus2099: does it work if you specifically click "Done" after selecting the new recording?
      • 2018-05-18 13836, 2018

      • reosarevok
        If so, that's a duplicate
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      • yvanzo
        samj1912: test.mb.o is deployed
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      • samj1912
        cool
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      • samj1912
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      • samj1912
        reosarevok: there ya go :D
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      • samj1912
        ruaok: its up :D
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      • ruaok
        great, thanks samj1912 and yvanzo !
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      • Leo__Verto
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      • Leo__Verto
        also the polish folk band isn't the top result here anymore https://test.musicbrainz.org/search?query=drake&a…
      • 2018-05-18 13856, 2018

      • samj1912
        Leo__Verto: feel free to test some more :P
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      • ruaok
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      • Leo__Verto
        I wonder whether it still makes sense to show the score? it's kind of visual clutter, no?
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      • samj1912
        it is, maybe we can remove that from the UI and keep it WS only
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      • ruaok
        the scores have neven been well received, but mostly because they sucked.
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      • ruaok
        +1 samj1912
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      • ruaok
        samj1912: what is your plan for making !!! work?
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      • samj1912
        I have no idea :P
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      • samj1912
        looking into it :P
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      • ruaok
        ok.
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      • samj1912
        can you give me more stuff that doesn't work?
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      • ruaok
        looking now!
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      • reosarevok
        So how does this ranking work now?
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      • ruaok
        also, was there a specific case that made sure that !!! works?
      • 2018-05-18 13811, 2018

      • ruaok
        (in the old code)
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      • samj1912
        I dont think so
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      • reosarevok
        (Bach is still meh, but at least it's in the top 10)
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      • samj1912
        let me check which analyzers it uses
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      • Leo__Verto
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      • samj1912
        reosarevok: I think we might need to boost bach manually :P
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      • ruaok
        !!!, p!nk dpn
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      • ruaok
        don't work as expected.
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      • Leo__Verto
        I love how Freso shows up on that search even though his artist page doesn't include the term "MusicBrainz" at all
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      • reosarevok
        https://test.musicbrainz.org/search?query=tchaiko… shows low too, and other russians as well, but not sure how much can be done about that
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      • reosarevok
        Are we weighing name higher than primary aliases?
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      • reosarevok
        If so, maybe we shouldn't
      • 2018-05-18 13812, 2018

      • samj1912
        hmm
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      • samj1912
        we are weighing name more than alias
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      • Leo__Verto
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      • Leo__Verto
        I think artists just called "Bach" showing up before the composer is okay but six other Bachs?
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      • ruaok thinks we're going to crash the DB server by all loading JSB
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      • Leo__Verto
        seems like there is a fine line when trying to weight higher profile artists above exact matches at the risk of hiding the exact matches under more popular artists
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      • ruaok
        yeah.
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      • ruaok
        strictly speaking those bach results are great.
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      • ruaok
        but because socially we're accustomed to just saying Bach, the results are not correct to social standards.
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      • reosarevok
        How does it decide which U2 or Nirvana is top right now?
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      • reosarevok
        I see it gets it right, but how? Does it weigh number of releases?
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      • Leo__Verto
        well, I'd be fine with JS Bach being third but some self-help audiobook artist is in front of him
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      • ruaok
        reosarevok: number of entities that refer to that artist.
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      • ruaok gets a 504 on JSB.
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      • ruaok
        does JSB have an alias for "Bach"?
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      • reosarevok
        So if we just add another 300 Bach albums, it might be third?
      • 2018-05-18 13813, 2018

      • Leo__Verto
        yay for Approaching Nirvana showing up here https://test.musicbrainz.org/search?query=nirvana…
      • 2018-05-18 13816, 2018

      • ruaok
        GAAAAAAAH
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      • samj1912
        lol :P
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      • Leo__Verto
        ruaok, he does
      • 2018-05-18 13801, 2018

      • ruaok
        yeah.
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      • ruaok
        I don't know how to solve that aspect of our JSB problem.
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      • Leo__Verto
        as "Artist Name" though, not as search hint
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      • reosarevok
        Also JS Bach and J.S. Bach and Bach (1685-1750) and and
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      • Leo__Verto
        if that's something that is considered
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      • ruaok
        oh -- let's add bach as a search hint and see if that helps.
      • 2018-05-18 13849, 2018

      • Leo__Verto
        also lol @ "Johann Sebastion Bach"
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      • reosarevok
        Wait, are search hints valued more?
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      • ruaok
        Leo__Verto: thanks for volunteering. should I reset your pwd again?
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      • reosarevok
        If so, I'd argue it should be the other way around
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      • ruaok
        :laug
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      • ruaok
        grr.
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      • reosarevok
        (real names should be more weighted than typos)
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      • ruaok
        😆
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      • Leo__Verto
        hah, thanks, I got this one
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      • Leo__Verto
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      • samj1912
        Leo__Verto: its hard coded :P
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      • Leo__Verto
        oh wow
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      • samj1912
        10 mbids are hardcoded :P
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      • ruaok
        which is why I want to go to a !!! concert with the snarky sign.
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      • Leo__Verto
        yeah, now I get why you want to replace it
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      • samj1912
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      • reosarevok
        On the other hand, if hardcoding it is what it needs to match expectations for specifically these, is that so big a problem?
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      • Leo__Verto
        whyyy
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      • ruaok
        samj1912: interesting.
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      • ruaok
        does the new artist analyzer remove punctuation characters?
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      • reosarevok
        Leo__Verto: to make it work :p
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      • ruaok
        if so, it shouldn
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      • ruaok
        tt
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      • samj1912
        ruaok: I can fix that
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      • ruaok
        that might make !!! and p!nk work.
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      • ruaok
        please do.
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      • samj1912
        p!nk works?
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      • Leo__Verto
        added "Bach" as search hint, not showing up on the test server alias page though, does it use a replicated DB?
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      • ruaok
        no
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      • ruaok
        Leo__Verto: add it on production.
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      • ruaok
        samj1912: is live updating on right now?
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      • samj1912
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      • samj1912
        ruaok: it should be
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      • Leo__Verto
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      • ruaok
        samj1912: sorry, my bad. forgot the stupid checkbox. I can't wait for the to go away.
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      • samj1912
        !!! does not work, but p!nk does
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      • samj1912
        ill have to do something about !!!
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      • samj1912
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      • samj1912
        hmm things are in the retry queue
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      • samj1912
        I wonder why
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      • samj1912
        let me see
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      • ruaok
        that explains why it had no effect on JSB.