bukwurm: we have to have it for clients who don't have JavaScript
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bukwurm
LordSputnik: Do we have that many clients? I'm just curious, SSR is now an integral part of the website - why was it decided in the beginning to have SSR?
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bukwurm
*clients without javascript
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bukwurm
The thing is - I feel entry level for a front end dev becomes difficult when we have SSR (with the present setup).
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LordSputnik
bukwurm: Lots of people either don't have a browser supporting JS or deliberately turn JavaScript off for sites they haven't visited before - we want to make the site accessible for these people. So we need to support server-side rendering. If we didn't use SSR, we wouldn't be using React for everything - we'd still have a server side templating language (we used to use Jade/Pug). Adopting SSR means that only one
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LordSputnik
framework (React) is needed for everything
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LordSputnik: for my own curiosity, when you say lots of people don't have JS, do you have numbers? I've always wondered.
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alastairp
iliekcomputers: great!
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bukwurm
Mr_Monkey: We can set up some form of experiment on the site, to better know the traffic - if it's alright with LordSputnik
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LordSputnik
Mr_Monkey: quick bit of research gives 0.2% of regular users.
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ruaok waves from home
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ruaok
LordSputnik: problem is our users are not regular users.
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ruaok
if you make a one of our sites unusable without JS, you will hear about it incessantly. :)
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LordSputnik
ruaok: That's what I was saying earlier
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iliekcomputers
wb ruaok
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iliekcomputers
:)
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ruaok
thanks. I'm eager to get back to work and move things along.
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LordSputnik
ruaok: any recommendations for Scotland? I'm going to Edinburgh, Glasgow, Inverness and Aberdeen in November
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ruaok
november? yikes. that will be gray, wet and cold.
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ruaok
what do you want to do? hiking? that was our primary focus.
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LordSputnik
Nah we know the weather will probably be bad so mostly just sightseeing in the cities
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LordSputnik
But I'm in the UK anyway so used to dealing with uncooperative weather :P
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ruaok
I don't have many tips there, we didn't take in a lot of sights.
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ruaok
in Edinburgh is a walking tour, the dark side of edinburgh that looked fun, but conflicted with plays we were taking in at the fringe.
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ruaok
hiking and theater is what we did most of and most of our time was spent in a wee little town out of the way.
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zas
bitmap: CAA has problems since a long time now, can you ping someone at archive ?
I'm unquieting the channel now but blocking non-registered people from joining.
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Freso
It seems like the spam thing won't be going away before GCI takes off, and I think it might be better for them to see up front why they're not able to join the channel(s), rather than joining and being met with complete silence.
If the spam dies down on the network over the next few weeks, maybe I'll go back to the other way, but ~24 hours there have been somewhere around to 50–100(!) spam messages for every legitimate one, which is just too much to look through to see if there should be a single lost (potential) GCI student in there. I'll update our IRC documentation accordingly.
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Freso
Mineo: Yes.
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Freso
reosarevok can confirm that I'm not exaggerating the numbers (I feel like I might actually put it a bit on the low end).
