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      • iliekcomputers
        ruaok: which dump did you use?
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      • BrainzGit
        [listenbrainz-labs] paramsingh opened pull request #53 (master…param/upgrade-python): Install Python 3.6 ourselves instead of using old jessie python https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-labs/p…
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      • iliekcomputers
        😂
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      • CatQuest
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      • ruaok
        mooooin
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      • ruaok
        if you're ever had the (dis)pleasure of interacting with RMS...
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      • CatQuest
        no idea who he is, and no idea what he said.. but great!?
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        yes, great.
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      • ruaok
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      • ruaok
        well, that's quite a morning.
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      • Mr_Monkey
        Good !
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      • travis-ci
        metabrainz/picard#4968 (master - 449b8f3 : Christian Clauss): The build passed.
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      • Mr_Monkey
        "I am resigning […} over a series of misunderstandings." Uh-huh…
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      • ruaok
        he's not going to learn his lessons, nor go quietly. but he'll be invited to talk a lot less...
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: wanna apply for president? :p
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      • reosarevok
        You know, for the lulz
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      • ruaok
        me? I'd last all of about 15 seconds!
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      • reosarevok
        I mean, you can certainly take more than 15 seconds to defend underage prostitution, right
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      • reosarevok
        So, better than RMS?
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      • reosarevok
        Although you'd probably turn the FSF into the Flying Spaghetti Foundation, so maybe not
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      • ruaok
        oh, now you're talking.
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      • ruaok ponders
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      • outsidecontext
        It's sad to see that RMS doesn't even attempt a critical look at himself but even when resigning just blames others
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      • ruaok
        seems to be a trend these days.
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      • ruaok
        iliekcomputers: listenbrainz-listens-dump-82-20190912-000002-full
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      • CatQuest has never heardof this guy before today :D
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      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: pretty big name in nerdy-old-dude computer circles
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      • reosarevok
        And kind of a dick, like most nerdy old dudes in computer circles
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      • reosarevok
        (not sure why tbh but I struggle to find of anyone old and famous who isn't also kind of a dick, other than hopefully Brewster Kahle, who I hope hasn't said anything weird recently now :p )
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      • reosarevok
        CatQuest: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman for more info anyway
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      • alastairp
        > 10:01 PM <iliekcomputers> Yeah, our python image doesn't support that for some reason
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      • alastairp
        the changes I made to the python images earlier in the year _should_ include all optional dependencies
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      • alastairp
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      • ruaok
        does it include a python module for xz? (are we still talking about xz?)
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      • alastairp
        as I understand, if the xz libs are installed when you compile python, then tarfile will read xz files (same with gzip, bzip2)
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      • alastairp
        actually, to be fair I'm not sure now what xz-utils is used for, because the python archive that we download is in xz. does this package have just the extractor or the build libs too?
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      • alastairp
        > liblzma-dev
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      • alastairp
        that one. perfect
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      • reosarevok
        Thanks for the ticket, alastairp :)
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      • alastairp
        de nada
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      • alastairp
        as I commented, if people use the output of the api correctly, it _should_ be backwards compatible, but I don't trust people :)
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      • reosarevok
        If they don't check the value, that's too bad :p
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      • reosarevok
        alastairp: heh, so JSON already sets forward anyway
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      • alastairp
        lol, interesting
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      • alastairp
        yeah, we deal with xml in the python bindings
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      • alastairp
        which is why I noticed it
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      • reosarevok
        Guess because otherwise it would have an empty direction, while xml just would have no element
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      • alastairp
        yeah, makes sense. xml does that "no element" thing better
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      • alastairp
        mm, does that mean that the schema says that this element is optional? I wonder if it should also be changed to "required" if you're always going to add it?
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      • reosarevok
        It should, probably
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      • reosarevok
        I'll check
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      • reosarevok
        So this patch will be like five lines of code changes and a hundred of test changes, I assume :p
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      • alastairp
        as it should be
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      • reosarevok
        Hmm
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        (it is optional, yes)
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      • alastairp
        lolol
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      • alastairp
        I'm definitely looking at an api output which doesn't show forward
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      • CatQuest
        reosarevok: I was actually readin that article and didn't understand why the "old nerd dick" thing came in
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      • CatQuest
        .. then i read the talk page and boy
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      • reosarevok
        I don't think we have "both" anywhere
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      • reosarevok
        alastairp: sure, it's not shown at all. It's weird that it defaults to both, because we never use both :p
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      • reosarevok
        (I guess that'd apply for what, sibling?)
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      • reosarevok
        alastairp: lol. So, we have Readonly our $DIRECTION_FORWARD => 1; Readonly our $DIRECTION_BACKWARD => 2;
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      • reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        Where the fuck did "both" in MMD come from then
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      • alastairp
        down the rabbit hole he goes
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      • reosarevok
        It's been there from the beginning, it seems
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      • reosarevok
        Yup, literally there in musicbrainz_mmd-1.0.rng
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      • reosarevok
        The fuck :D
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      • reosarevok
        bitmap, yvanzo: I assume I should be removing "<value>both</value>" from https://github.com/metabrainz/mmd-schema/blob/fe6…
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      • reosarevok
        Should I also make https://github.com/metabrainz/mmd-schema/blob/fe6… non-optional or is it better to keep it optional for some sort of backwards compatibility even if we expect to output it everywhere after https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-10370?
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-10370: Add `direction: forward` to all forward relationships in WS
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      • alastairp
        how does versioning of that document work?
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      • alastairp
        is it possible that people have stored xml of the output of the ws pointing to a schema file which might change
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      • alastairp
        so then if they perform validation, the file becomes "invalid"?
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      • alastairp
        I guess keeping it optional is OK. perhaps a comment saying that it's left as optional for backwards compatibility but is now always output/
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      • alastairp
        ?
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      • reosarevok
        AFAICT we just update 2.0 nowadays
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      • ruaok
        no, not the postgres autovacuum
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      • alastairp
        oh man. a roomba is like an autovacuum
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      • alastairp
        put a pg sticker on it
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      • reosarevok
        Nerds
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      • ruaok
        if I had one, I'd do it. only metabrainz stickers so far.
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      • ruaok
        and bookbrainz. was to hand.
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      • ruaok
        he found the mural supplies though. that was a close call.
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        meh, not going to be a fun productive day today. nothing but english hacking, no time for code, methinks.
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      • BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-server] reosarevok opened pull request #1212 (master…MBS-10370): MBS-10370: Add "direction: forward" to XML WS rels https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server/…
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      • BrainzBot
        MBS-10370: Add `direction: forward` to all forward relationships in WS https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-10370
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