bitmap, yvanzo: I noticed one of the top requested file on mb is /static/search_plugins/opensearch/musicbrainz_artist.xml , that's a very small file, which didn't change since a while though we serve it without any client-side caching. What's the purpose of this file? Shouldn't we improve that? Are there any other file of the same kind?
2019-09-18 26155, 2019
zas
Currently this file only takes 36ms to be served (without any caching) and it fits in one tcp packet, so that's not an issue at all. I just wonder about why we don't have client-caching headers for it and if we should modify nginx config for that.
2019-09-18 26120, 2019
zas
it was requested 9706 times yesterday (so not any issue either)
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bitmap
I have no idea actually
2019-09-18 26159, 2019
bitmap
thought it had something to do with FF's search box
zas: I think so, we don't copy it to staticbrainz from what I can see
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bitmap
that'd be a good idea
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Mr_Monkey
Moin moin!
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pristine__
Moin!
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ruaok
moooin!
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ruaok
alastairp: we're doing catered gumbo on thusday evening the 26th, Nicole is cooking. Care to join us for that?
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alastairp
ruaok: sorry, thursday dinner doesn't work for me
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ruaok
ok, np.
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ruaok
just sorting out headcounts.
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ruaok
sigh. thpain. "here is confirmation email about your airbnb's. tell us when you're arriving."
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ruaok
I do so.
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ruaok
"no, no, no, contact the owners, not us. the rental agency that isn't the agency with whom you booked."
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ruaok
why the fuck did you even send me mail?
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ruaok
because you wanted to spend more time chatting in email and not actually doing your job?
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jwf
cats: RE: GM Last.fm Scrobbler for Bandcamp. Why not Web Scrobbler which supports multiple browsers and sites like Bandcamp? https://web-scrobbler.github.io/
2019-09-18 26130, 2019
jwf
And also scrobbles to ListenBrainz :)
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jwf
With now-playing notifications even
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travis-ci
metabrainz/picard#4974 (master - 2bf9891 : Philipp Wolfer): The build passed.
jwf: because "This add-on requires a newer version of Firefox (at least version 53.0). You are using Firefox 44.0."
2019-09-18 26148, 2019
CatQuest
(great idea though, thnkas for that link)
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CatQuest
(I'm working on upgrading, but i'm hittinga bottlenex re tab-groups)
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CatQuest
there *was* tab group plugin for 45 but i cant find it anywhere
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CatQuest
i ned it so i cna upgrade ot 45 so i nat pgrade to 46 so i cna upgrae to 47 etc.
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kepstin
CatQuest: you should be able upgrade a firefox profile straight from 44 to 60esr, then to 68esr without worrying about intermediate versions.
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CatQuest
except that it cant becasue 90% of the plugins i literlaly use dayly wont work
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CatQuest
i might as well switch to chrome or vivladi (:
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kepstin
yeah, hmm. most of them you'd have to find replacements for anyways, which would mean it can't keep the configuration regardless.
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CatQuest
also that is too big a change and i cant cope or functino with a browser that big of a change. it's liek movinghouses but it turns out that every soom is upside down and thts a nomral thing but wtf how do i do
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CatQuest
yes. but.
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CatQuest
if i do it incrementally.
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CatQuest
it's managable
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CatQuest
sight i get that noone else gets this and thats fien ,but please *try* to udnerstand that i have issues with this
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CatQuest
if things change to fast to drastically i cant use it
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CatQuest
itry hard ot work aroudn things and b clever but i ha ve to actually use it
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CatQuest
i've tried to like, open up latest ff and it's like "..."
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CatQuest
ok that was interesting
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CatQuest
thne i go bakc and i cna use it
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CatQuest
i jsut.. i cna't even
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CatQuest
it's lie kthat
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CatQuest
i cant even
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CatQuest
it's my problem and im broken not the browser (supposedly) but well that's them bones
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CatQuest
i don't have adhd and asbergers for fun :(
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CatQuest
and. and . the thing is. if i *Do* go trough it, if i do work trough it al land upgrade and reistribute and plugins and all that shit
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CatQuest
well thne iu have ot do it ALL OVER AGAIN in 2 weeks
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CatQuest
not. worth. it.
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CatQuest
:(
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kepstin
all the browser and os stuff is kinda tricky nowadays, because either you have to deal with the continuous monthly updates, or you can try to stick to an extended support version and then there's occasional *huge* updates.
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kepstin
well, i guess most of the os's (windows and most linux versions) do twice-yearly updates.
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CatQuest
yea
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CatQuest
I just want a browser that lets me customise what it looks like, lets me isntall scripts and plugins like adblock and google translate S3 which gets all the security updates and shit But. doesn't. change.the.way.it.looks FFS
2019-09-18 26113, 2019
CatQuest
instead you can install "themes" which is like fancy as colours and images on the background ಠ_ಠ yea. suuure this is what i mean with "customise hat it loos like" :eyeroll:
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CatQuest
sigh
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CatQuest
oh and a sane session manager
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CatQuest
and tab groups. prefferably
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ruaok
ass browser??
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samj1912[m]
yvanzo, read the backlog about sir port
2019-09-18 26100, 2019
samj1912[m]
I am happy to review the code, but I don't have nearly enough time to port it myself
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samj1912[m]
Might be best to start with tests first and then proceed with the port so we can identify regressions
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samj1912[m]
The port should relatively be straight forward compared to Picard since we don't have to care much about encoding issues
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samj1912[m]
The main problem last time I tried to port it was the rmq part
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samj1912[m]
I think it might be useful to port it to pika instead of amqp
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samj1912[m]
Iirc the new amqp api changed slightly and the old version is py2 only
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samj1912[m]
But I might be wrong
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samj1912[m]
FYI porting it to python 3 might also help with some of the race conditions
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jwf
CatQuest: Did you consider a one-time migration to an updated Firefox ESR version? It seems it would better safeguard consistency with a longer supported update lifetime
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samj1912[m]
I remember there being some bug in py2 with the interrupt + multiprocessing
I remember adding a lot of flags to deal with this
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samj1912[m]
Which makes the multiprocessing code very complicated
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samj1912[m]
I remember being extremely frustrated with this
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samj1912[m]
The only other source of complication in sir apart from multiprocessing is the dynamic sql queries generated to process updates
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samj1912[m]
I don't think even i remember all the corner cases at this point
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samj1912[m]
But that shouldn't be a blocker for the port
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samj1912[m]
And as for bitmap's suggestion of running multiple instances - that doesn't work with the current architecture of sir. For example if someone updates Bach - processing everything linked to him will take forever for the poor worker that takes the record off the rmq
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samj1912[m]
It should handle normal updates though.
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samj1912[m]
Fixing the above will mean completely changing how sir resolves update links
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samj1912[m]
possibly re queueing everything that's relayed to an entity to rmq again with a different message type instead of trying to process it in a single worker instance
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samj1912[m]
I hope this helps
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samj1912[m]
If you need help on anything else, shoot me an email
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yvanzo
thank you samj1912[m]
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samj1912[m]
You're very welcome :)
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yvanzo
I would still prefer someone else to work on it
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samj1912[m]
Just pointers to whoever decides to work on it :)
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yvanzo
I can help with by explaining the overall architecture, expected i/o, specs, and other details, but I’m not up to maintain the core.
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iliekcomputers
I just read about rms resigning from fsf
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iliekcomputers
Yikes
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SothoTalKer
yvanzo: how about writing it up somewhere? (:
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yvanzo
"Yikes"?
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yvanzo
(to SothoTalKer, about sir)
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yvanzo
iliekcomputers: I agree it is a sordid affair :(
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SothoTalKer
why yikes? :)
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yvanzo
SothoTalKer: "writing [what] up"?
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iliekcomputers
Yikes about rms' statements about pedophilia
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SothoTalKer
the explanation
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yvanzo
iliekcomputers: I mean the whole Epstein affair of course, including this part.
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yvanzo
SothoTalKer: oh right, it is partly documented already and I should definitely try to complete it as much as I can.
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yvanzo
Plus, samj1912[m] suggested architecture changes, so it is more about discussing architecture changes than explaining what I understood.
