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                    ruaok I'm taking a closer look at why the queue is getting backed up. 
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                    ruaok iliekcomputers: zas: this is super interesting. 
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                    ruaok cb delta is the amount of time that passes between callbacks from rabbitmq. 
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                    ruaok 300-400ms. our code uses 5ms of that. the system is sitting idle for a good long chunk of time, doing fuck all. 
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                    ruaok zas: I could use your help, please. 
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                    ruaok our instance of rabbitmq was started *20* months ago. 
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                    ruaok which on its own is amazing, given hetzner fans. lol. 
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                    ruaok I dont know what the procedure is for restarting rabbitmq, but I think we may want to try that. 
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                    ruaok trille is neither IO bound nor CPU bound. 
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                    iliekcomputers ruaok: what do you mean by callbacks specifically here? 
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                    iliekcomputers The time it takes pika to call our handler function? 
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                    ruaok the time between calls to our callback from pika/rabbitmq 
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                    ruaok in theory it should be near instant, maybe 1ms. but it is ~300ms. 
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                    ruaok maybe a bug in pika? 
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                    reosarevok yvanzo: edited the blog post, does it look good? 
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                    ruaok zas: plz read the posts from the last few hours. 
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                    zas Ok 
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                    ruaok having strange latency issues with rabbitmq 
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                    zas You mean network-related latency? 
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                    ruaok not sure what kind of latency, but I dont think it is network related. 
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                    ruaok the way we read data from rabbitmq is via a callback. 
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                    ruaok and the callback sits idle for up to 300ms between calls -- that is the reason why the queue is backed up so much. 
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                    ruaok we're just not getting called to process data faster. 
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                    ruaok I noticed that rabbitmq has been running for *20* months. 
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                    ruaok do you know how/if we can safely restart rabbitmq? 
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                    zas Unsure 
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                    ruaok well, help me find out, please. 
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                    zas Let me check what is using it 
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                    zas BTW rebooting the whole server would be a good thing too 
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                    ruaok yes, for sure. 
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                    zas I think it is ok to restart it (rabbitmq), at worse apps using it will reveal how they suck by not handling this case 
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                    zas other docker containers should also be ok 
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                    zas yvanzo: can you check what's running on trille? 
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                    ruaok zas: agreed. 
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                    zas I suggest to do a restart of rabbitmq alone, to start with 
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                    ruaok ok, wanna do the honors? 
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                    iliekcomputers >at worse apps using it will reveal how they suck by not handling this case 
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                    iliekcomputers pretty bad worst case 
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                    ruaok its only the CAA using it, no? 
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                    iliekcomputers does sir use it's own instance? 
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                    ruaok oh, right. that. 
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                    ruaok totally forot about that little detail. 
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                    zas we can stop sir & caa 
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                    iliekcomputers i'm pretty sure we have good handling in LB. 
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                    ruaok iliekcomputers: yeah, we're fine. 
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                    ruaok zas: lets do that. 
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                    ruaok no need to stop LB. we have loads of retry and resiliency built in. 
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                    zas ok, rabbitmq restart (caa & sir stopped) 
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                    zas let's see if it has any impact on lb 
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                    ruaok that was it!! 
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                    ruaok 2020-02-18 11:43:53,974 INFO cb delta: 0.002 parse: 0.000 write: 0.002 stats: 0.000 
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                    ruaok 2ms between calls now! 
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                    ruaok woot! 
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                    iliekcomputers 🎉 
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                    ruaok times are wildly fluctuating 
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                    ruaok back to 400ms now. 
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                    zas hmmm 
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                    zas I'd reboot the whole server (to upgrade kernel) 
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                    ruaok ok, good plan. 
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                    iliekcomputers is this trille? 
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                    ruaok y 
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                    iliekcomputers CB will have downtime then (if we wanna tweet) 
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                    zas yup, CB on it too 
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                    iliekcomputers i think so, yes. 
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                    zas ruaok: tweet about it please 
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                    ruaok ok. 
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                    zas but that's the same since 1 year 
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                    zas ok, proceeding, time to pray ;) 
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                    zas I hate having no ping to a server... make me anxious.... 
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                    ruaok you n' me both. 
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                    zas trille's back :) 
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                    ruaok still waiting for rmq to come back 
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                    zas rabbitmq failed to restart 
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                    zas not sure why yet 
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                    zas ok started 
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                    ruaok verfiied. 
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                    ruaok fast now. 
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                    ruaok annnnd slow again. 
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                    zas can it be a issue with the data volume? 
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                    ruaok not sure. 
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                    ruaok can we tell if sir has been moving slow as well? 
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                    ruaok oh! 
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                    yvanzo zas: checking 
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                    ruaok our writes are slow now. 
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                    zas btw, we still run rmq 3.6.5 
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                    ruaok ok, seems that the rabbitmq slowdown was fixed -- now the problem has moved to influxdb. :) 
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                    ruaok ok, make a ticket for that, zas. 
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                    yvanzo should I start sir to see? 
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                    ruaok and maybe work with bitmap or yvanzo to upgrade it. 
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                    ruaok yvanzo: fine by me. 
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                    ruaok yvanzo: bitmap: can one of you two please work on that? 
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                    yvanzo sir is back, not much to mention, its rate is limited to 100 msg in a batch.