bitmap, reosarevok: the two latest releases have been skipped because there were not enough changes so far
2020-08-03 21659, 2020
alastairp
hi there
2020-08-03 21613, 2020
alastairp
ruaok: when you're at a computer and have a few minutes to talk can you ping me?
2020-08-03 21621, 2020
ruaok
ping
2020-08-03 21649, 2020
alastairp
hi
2020-08-03 21639, 2020
alastairp
I spoke with yvanzo a while back about applying security updates on critiquebrainz. I did a bit of that last week, but in the process found quite a few bugs that appear to be released live
2020-08-03 21659, 2020
alastairp
I remember you mentioning that we should have a think about CB's immediate future given how many developers we have
2020-08-03 21626, 2020
ruaok is open to suggestions.
2020-08-03 21630, 2020
alastairp
so just wanted to hear your thoughts on what you think is the right way forward
2020-08-03 21649, 2020
ruaok
I'm increasingly in favor of mothballing it for the time being.
2020-08-03 21657, 2020
alastairp
in terms of fixing the biggest things that I saw, it's probably a week of work or less
2020-08-03 21611, 2020
ruaok
we've tried to get more people interested in it, but no luck.
2020-08-03 21615, 2020
alastairp
for you is mothballing shutting it down for good? putting it into read-only?
2020-08-03 21643, 2020
alastairp
I mean, if it _has_ to be done, I can take a week to do it, it just depends if we think that it's worth my time
2020-08-03 21647, 2020
ruaok
it is simply not part of our core competencies at the moment.
2020-08-03 21628, 2020
ruaok
read-only will still need some maintenance, I suppose.
2020-08-03 21635, 2020
alastairp
yeah, exactly
2020-08-03 21647, 2020
alastairp
it's also worth pointing out that people are actively using it
2020-08-03 21655, 2020
alastairp
perhaps slowly, but there are reviews for the last week on it
2020-08-03 21624, 2020
alastairp
but it's true that keeping it running still required moderators, etc
2020-08-03 21635, 2020
ruaok
I guess one thing we could do is put up a post on community saying that if anyone cares about the project and would be interesting in being a care-taker, they should speak up.
2020-08-03 21606, 2020
alastairp
in a moderator capacity, or a coder capacity?
2020-08-03 21632, 2020
alastairp
keeping in mind that coding will still require one of us to do basic code review, and releases
2020-08-03 21624, 2020
ruaok
mainainer capacity first and foremost.
2020-08-03 21645, 2020
ruaok
but I agree, that no one on our team really wants to spend time on that.
2020-08-03 21619, 2020
alastairp
OK. I'll release these security updates then, and I can draft a community post. do you want to see it before I post it?
2020-08-03 21651, 2020
ruaok
sure, that would be nice. thanks for taking this on.
2020-08-03 21617, 2020
yvanzo
thanks alastairp
2020-08-03 21650, 2020
ruaok
and perhaps you can frame it in a more open way than how we d=just discussed it. rather than leaning towards a solution, state the problem and what resources are needed for the project in the short term.
2020-08-03 21644, 2020
alastairp
right, ok
2020-08-03 21600, 2020
alastairp
iliekcomputers: ping, when you're around. I want to understand what is on CB beta and what is on CB prod
2020-08-03 21605, 2020
ruaok
yaaay!
2020-08-03 21635, 2020
ruaok
I'm still working to finish many loose ends before diving into troi coding for reals...
ruaok: oh, btw, we would love to try your water fixer
2020-08-03 21619, 2020
alastairp
water the last few weeks has been really soso
2020-08-03 21615, 2020
shivam-kapila
Hey! morning!
2020-08-03 21641, 2020
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2020-08-03 21600, 2020
ruaok
ok, easy. at the farmacia, buy Sal de Magnesio (Mg2Cl) NOT epsom salts MgSO4 (or whatever it is)
2020-08-03 21619, 2020
ruaok
then you'll need table salt or iodized table salt.
2020-08-03 21645, 2020
ruaok
100g of Mg2Cl and 50g of salt to 1L of water.
2020-08-03 21629, 2020
ruaok
then 5ml to 500ml of water. (that's a teaspoon measure)
2020-08-03 21611, 2020
ruaok
I'm curious to see how it goes for you. you'd be the first younger people it works for. It seems to be a problem for 40+ people.
2020-08-03 21623, 2020
ruaok
moin moin, shivam-kapila
2020-08-03 21633, 2020
shivam-kapila
👋
2020-08-03 21633, 2020
ruaok
I was up in the north north north of germany (5km to the danish border) yesterday and near the dykes by the sea every one greets everyone with "moin!". There is no other greeting. Only moin.
2020-08-03 21606, 2020
shivam-kapila
Wow
2020-08-03 21614, 2020
ruaok
and, I finally learned the real meaning of moin. It was confimed it has nothing to do with morning at all.
2020-08-03 21631, 2020
shivam-kapila
Lol. Seriously
2020-08-03 21637, 2020
ruaok
Moin! is a greeting that wishes you good wind for sailing.
2020-08-03 21645, 2020
alastairp
mmm, ok. only sodium and magnesium?
2020-08-03 21600, 2020
alastairp
I started drinking vichy after bike rides as a general salt replacement
2020-08-03 21606, 2020
ruaok
the north are very much seafarers, so good wind is critical to trade and all that.
2020-08-03 21616, 2020
ruaok
alastairp: yes only those two.
2020-08-03 21625, 2020
ruaok
alastairp: for me vichy, makes things worse.
2020-08-03 21635, 2020
alastairp
oh? interesting. no problem here
2020-08-03 21636, 2020
shivam-kapila
TILT
2020-08-03 21607, 2020
alastairp
I also have salt pills that have magnesium, sodium, calcium and potassium too
2020-08-03 21611, 2020
ruaok
yes, it has salt, bit it is very high in calcium, which makes you flush out magnesium.
2020-08-03 21624, 2020
alastairp
right, I didn't know of that interaction
2020-08-03 21637, 2020
ruaok
(mg/ca, K and Na must all be in a very tight balance in your body for you to not die)
2020-08-03 21659, 2020
ruaok
so if you area lacking one, it will flush the other to establish the balance.
2020-08-03 21609, 2020
ruaok
drinking vichy made me more thirsty.
2020-08-03 21617, 2020
ruaok
and that is one of the reasons for salt in the fixer.
2020-08-03 21644, 2020
ruaok
in the winter, you can cut the salt in half, but that might affect the taste... it may become bitter.
2020-08-03 21654, 2020
alastairp
so the salt is so that the body retains the additional magnesium instead of flushing it?
2020-08-03 21644, 2020
ruaok
actually no, I didn't express that well.
2020-08-03 21612, 2020
ruaok
the salt is there for 1) making the magnesium palatable 2) providing salt lost during summer months.
2020-08-03 21641, 2020
ruaok
Vichy would work fine if I could add more Mg to it... hmmm.
2020-08-03 21647, 2020
alastairp
ah, got it
2020-08-03 21607, 2020
alastairp
well, thanks for the chemistry lesson
2020-08-03 21625, 2020
ruaok
np
2020-08-03 21646, 2020
shivam-kapila
Table salt also has some Mg
2020-08-03 21651, 2020
alastairp
some, yes, but note that the recipe above has 2x the amount of Mg2Cl than NaCl
2020-08-03 21646, 2020
alastairp
and I also suspect that it might differ in different places. for example you can get magnesium salt, or potassium salt, as a way of minimising the amount of sodium that you take, too
2020-08-03 21623, 2020
alastairp
someone told me that at least in spain, salt is required to come with iodine, so people who sell "iodised salt" for more money are just scamming you, because the other one has it anyway
2020-08-03 21650, 2020
alastairp
anyway, I'm not an expert in this. we'll see
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ruaok
> salt is required to come with iodine
2020-08-03 21649, 2020
ruaok
interesting -- but its not listed on the ingredients. must be below the reporting threshold.
2020-08-03 21621, 2020
ruaok
> Table salt also has some Mg
2020-08-03 21627, 2020
ruaok
can't be more than trace amounts.
2020-08-03 21634, 2020
alastairp
ruaok: yeah, when he told me that I explicitly went and looked as well, so I'm not sure. he said some other suspect things as well, so for all I know he was making it up
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2020-08-03 21631, 2020
reosarevok
yvanzo, bitmap: Hmm. We really should try to avoid dropping more than one release in a row, even if they are very small, IMO
2020-08-03 21639, 2020
reosarevok
It's good to keep the habit :)
2020-08-03 21653, 2020
yvanzo
I was not worried because it is usual to skip a couple of releases during the summer
2020-08-03 21609, 2020
diru1100
Morning
2020-08-03 21609, 2020
yvanzo
It's good to keep the habit ;)
2020-08-03 21627, 2020
yvanzo
hi diru1100!
2020-08-03 21645, 2020
diru1100
Also happy raksha Bandhan!!
2020-08-03 21652, 2020
diru1100
Hi yvanzo!!
2020-08-03 21656, 2020
Mr_Monkey
_lucifer: I think you can compare the character with that character changed to uppercase (`myCharacter.toUpperCase()`), and compare if they're the same.
2020-08-03 21656, 2020
Mr_Monkey
Not the cleanest…
2020-08-03 21652, 2020
ruaok
pristine___: I'm loving seeing the ratings in your latest PR. But, its already slipped my mind: what is the range of ratings again?
