reosarevok: because of the spat between ISNI and MeB, they update manually, thus not very often.
2021-03-01 06035, 2021
iliekcomputers
good morning!
2021-03-01 06048, 2021
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reosarevok
ruaok: remind me, what was the problem?
2021-03-01 06014, 2021
ruaok
they're being dicks.
2021-03-01 06044, 2021
ruaok
self entitled "we are saving the music industry, why are you not bowing down to us" dicks.
2021-03-01 06011, 2021
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2021-03-01 06013, 2021
reosarevok
Were they the ones who wanted us to pay them to use our data?
2021-03-01 06020, 2021
ruaok
yeah.
2021-03-01 06043, 2021
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2021-03-01 06027, 2021
CatQuest
lol what?
2021-03-01 06054, 2021
reosarevok
Yeah I don't remember the details but now it does ring a bell (and "lol what?" was my thought at the time as well)
2021-03-01 06008, 2021
ruaok
the whole thing started when I found an article in some industry rag that said: "ISNI and YT sign deal. ISNI agrees to get live feed from MB". first i heard of that! that was a bad start.
2021-03-01 06053, 2021
ruaok
then they rolled in "we're here to save everything. give us free data and you need to pay $800/year and $ for each registration" and we're a non-profit, so this is all cool.
2021-03-01 06010, 2021
ruaok
I looked them up. they are not a non-profit.
2021-03-01 06026, 2021
reosarevok
Even if they were, why would another nonprofit do that :p
2021-03-01 06036, 2021
ruaok
so I offered them a simple deal: We either each pay our respective list prices or no money changes hands. you can choose.
2021-03-01 06008, 2021
ruaok
at $18k/year our list is vastly steeper than their fees. so they started wailing.
2021-03-01 06027, 2021
ruaok
and then conversation after conversation happend where I felt I like I was talking to a wall.
2021-03-01 06001, 2021
ruaok
well an industry wall. "you internet people ruining everything, we shounld't have to pay you"
2021-03-01 06038, 2021
reosarevok
Didn't you just offer them that they wouldn't have to pay you :D
2021-03-01 06047, 2021
ruaok
I did.
2021-03-01 06004, 2021
ruaok
now everything I have to deal with them, I dig in further.
2021-03-01 06020, 2021
ruaok
if they keep up, every conversation will increase the price/month by $100.
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reosarevok
Have you reminded them that "free for both" is still on the table?
2021-03-01 06045, 2021
atj
The wikipedia page states "it is incorporated under the Companies Act 2006 as a private company limited by guarantee" and then "this UK registered, not-for-profit company"
2021-03-01 06059, 2021
ruaok
atj: exactly that. UK company house agrees with that. but they flat out said that they were non-profit.
2021-03-01 06010, 2021
iliekcomputers
>10:05:21 AM if they keep up, every conversation will increase the price/month by $100.
2021-03-01 06011, 2021
iliekcomputers
😂
2021-03-01 06029, 2021
ruaok
I have no patience for assholes.
2021-03-01 06047, 2021
ruaok
right then. lets move on. we have loads to do this week.
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ruaok
alastairp: Mr_Monkey: zas: Freso: yvanzo: get your invoices in please. I'll pay the EUR payments tomorrow mornning.
2021-03-01 06004, 2021
ruaok
the USD payments are ready to do, so I'll do those and then we can get hacking.
2021-03-01 06043, 2021
ruaok
_lucifer: given how late we started in the month, would be it be ok to start paying you in one month's time. the fees for the small amount of the previous month would be pretty high.
2021-03-01 06039, 2021
Mr_Monkey
ruaok: will do. Alastair and I arrived at the office, see you in a bit
2021-03-01 06054, 2021
ruaok
ok.
2021-03-01 06031, 2021
ruaok
ok, available invoices paid, packing up, heading out.
2021-03-01 06033, 2021
CatQuest
shii, how are things over thre, lockdowns and all?
2021-03-01 06033, 2021
CatQuest
shii, how are things over thre, lockdowns and all?
2021-03-01 06033, 2021
CatQuest
shii, how are things over thre, lockdowns and all?
2021-03-01 06035, 2021
CatQuest
shit
2021-03-01 06037, 2021
CatQuest
sorry
2021-03-01 06049, 2021
CatQuest
i tried bakcspacing nad hit enter :///
2021-03-01 06006, 2021
CatQuest
over here it's lockdowns AGIN this week
2021-03-01 06008, 2021
CatQuest
man am i sick of it
2021-03-01 06031, 2021
shivam-kapila
Partial lockdowns here too
2021-03-01 06042, 2021
shivam-kapila
(Good afternoon)
2021-03-01 06050, 2021
CatQuest
ha, good noone here :D
2021-03-01 06054, 2021
CatQuest
noon
2021-03-01 06014, 2021
reosarevok
Here they have closed museums and stuff
2021-03-01 06030, 2021
reosarevok shrugs. As long as they let us out of the house, they can close as many indoors things as they want
2021-03-01 06009, 2021
CatQuest
honestly the library needs ot stay open or i'll go mad
2021-03-01 06034, 2021
_lucifer
ruaok: yeah, sure
2021-03-01 06008, 2021
reosarevok
Hmm, I think they did close that here for the month, but not sure
2021-03-01 06021, 2021
reosarevok
I have way too many books in my backlog as it is :/
2021-03-01 06024, 2021
_lucifer
alastairp: if you are available, lets work ahead on consul uograde?
2021-03-01 06059, 2021
ruaok
iliekcomputers: _lucifer shivam-kapila : we're chatting about the hack week. Should we start a video call so you can join?
2021-03-01 06011, 2021
iliekcomputers
yes please.
2021-03-01 06014, 2021
_lucifer
sure
2021-03-01 06017, 2021
iliekcomputers
zoom would work
2021-03-01 06018, 2021
shivam-kapila
sure
2021-03-01 06023, 2021
iliekcomputers
?
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atj
reosarevok: do you have 5 mins to chat about the JS URL issue on beta?
2021-03-01 06008, 2021
reosarevok
atj: I guess? yvanzo: you around?
2021-03-01 06007, 2021
atj
resolving the FF44 issue has caused some test failures due to how URL() canonicalises URLs
2021-03-01 06025, 2021
yvanzo
yup
2021-03-01 06033, 2021
atj
some of the URLs in the tests are invalid basically
2021-03-01 06048, 2021
atj
but browsers may be more permissive
2021-03-01 06050, 2021
reosarevok
Your new tests, or our existing ones?
2021-03-01 06053, 2021
atj
existing ones
2021-03-01 06054, 2021
yvanzo
atj: btw, control characters class is [[:cntrl:]] in perl
2021-03-01 06003, 2021
reosarevok
Examples? :)
2021-03-01 06008, 2021
atj
hold on
2021-03-01 06021, 2021
yvanzo
(IIRC the main reason for using RegExp over URL in URLCleanup was browser compatibility.)
_lucifer: hi, I'm here, but let's do this planning stuff first, and then look at the upgrade after
2021-03-01 06056, 2021
yvanzo
atj: when entered in artist’s edit form, we provide this error message: ‘There is an unencoded “?” or “#” character in this URL. Please check whether it is useless and should be removed, or whether it is an error and the URL is misencoded.’
@param your voice is breaking for me. Can you check your microphone once please
2021-03-01 06049, 2021
shivam-kapila
iliekcomputers: ^
2021-03-01 06035, 2021
shivam-kapila
@Mr_Monkey maybe top recordings for the week?
2021-03-01 06007, 2021
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