>If the WORKDIR doesn’t exist, it will be created even if it’s not used in any subsequent Dockerfile instruction.
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alastairp
_lucifer: mmm, interesting. I guess I always just assumed that you had to create it before switching to it
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alastairp
I had a dream last night that I was hosting all participants in the MeB summit, because I had 7 bedrooms in my house, but when we got home I remembered that I already had guests and there wasn't enough space for everyone
2021-05-06 12654, 2021
mrtriad
Good evening everyone. First of all I want to congrats for the musicbrainz project. Finding such a big and detailed open database was pretty unexpected ahah.
2021-05-06 12654, 2021
mrtriad
Anyway, I'm working on a small project for my uni. As a starting point I need to place on a nice map artists and albums, but I don't want to annoy with details. The whole thing should work on nodejs. Now, I set up the local dev version of musicbrainz, it works, but now I'm really starting to think if interacting with that server and some of the
2021-05-06 12655, 2021
mrtriad
community api is more or less convinient that setting up the database on its own.
2021-05-06 12655, 2021
mrtriad
I'd like to hear what are the advantages of interacting with the server in spite of the direct database, and I guess that this is the best place to ask that. Otherwise tell me simply to go away ;3
2021-05-06 12658, 2021
ruaok
calendaring is hard. even whle asleep.
2021-05-06 12646, 2021
reosarevok
mrtriad: depends on what you want to do
2021-05-06 12651, 2021
ruaok
mrtriad: welcome! and thanks!
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reosarevok
The database is always going to be more powerful
2021-05-06 12617, 2021
reosarevok
(since you don't depend on the specific combinations of data the API offers you)
2021-05-06 12626, 2021
reosarevok
But on the other hand, you need to maintain a database copy :)
2021-05-06 12604, 2021
reosarevok
If you don't care about keeping the data up to date and are happy with just a static snapshot, you might as well use the database you already have, I guess :)
2021-05-06 12617, 2021
mrtriad
That's not a big deal luckily. But yay, thanks for the confirmation.
2021-05-06 12617, 2021
mrtriad
A few more question since you are so quick ahah. First of all, I installed the dev version during the server installation, though it's not so clear what's the difference from the normal one. (it's not a slave, so it's not up to date, though there are also a few other version to choose and the dev one is much smaller than the others)
2021-05-06 12641, 2021
ruaok
it has a tiny test database.
2021-05-06 12604, 2021
ruaok
which won't be useful for your purposes of collecting data. useful for development and not waiting a long time for data to download.
2021-05-06 12617, 2021
ruaok
do you have a list of artists for whom you want releases? how big is it?
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reosarevok
Yeah, it's basically taking a bunch of big artists and the data connected to them, so that there's enough to play with
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reosarevok
So, it'd work for you to test, maybe, but it won't help much otherwise
2021-05-06 12635, 2021
mrtriad
oh, k. Clear clear.
2021-05-06 12637, 2021
reosarevok
(also because if you want countries, that's missing some area to country connections)
2021-05-06 12618, 2021
mrtriad
Also to get the db as a stand alone should I download the big one as I set up the server or should I follow this git https://github.com/lalinsky/mbdata?
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mrtriad
(hope that posting link is legal)
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reosarevok
Sure, why wouldn't it be :) luks is a friend
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reosarevok
Assuming mbdata is up to date, the question is: do you want to be able to use the website too, or do you just need the DB
2021-05-06 12637, 2021
mrtriad
I just need the DB
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reosarevok
If the DB is enough, mbdata is probably all you need. If you want to have a copy of the website locally to view the data with and whatnot, then use the main server
2021-05-06 12656, 2021
mrtriad
oh, ok. Perfect ^^
2021-05-06 12624, 2021
mrtriad
Welp, that's it for now. Thanks for your support and the quick replies
2021-05-06 12625, 2021
reosarevok
ruaok: I'm not missing any recent changes wrt mbdata, right? :)
2021-05-06 12632, 2021
alastairp
mrtriad: are you talking about using the mbdata db loading/replication functionality?
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reosarevok
Just to make sure
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ruaok knows nothing
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alastairp
reosarevok: it should be up to date. we use it in brainzutils
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alastairp
but it's 2 things: an ORM for accessing the database from python, and some additional tools to set up a database without needing to use musicbrainz-docker or mbserver
2021-05-06 12645, 2021
mrtriad
Hmm what do you mean by "mbdata db loading/replication functionality"? I still have to take a look at the mbdata functionalities. I guess that at the end of that I'll have a local postgre with the musicbrainz db. Am I right?
2021-05-06 12644, 2021
reosarevok
I never used the orm, but I remember using it to just get a DB ready back in the day when I didn't want a local MB copy
2021-05-06 12654, 2021
reosarevok
But this was... well, a long time ago :D
2021-05-06 12607, 2021
reosarevok
Maybe by now just using the docker files would make your life easier
2021-05-06 12623, 2021
alastairp
mrtriad: sorry, I may not have explained that clearly. let me read your backlog
2021-05-06 12650, 2021
alastairp
mrtriad: I understand that you set up the database with musicbrainz-docker? Does that work well for you?
2021-05-06 12631, 2021
mrtriad
I set it up without docker. But yay, it works
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alastairp
ah, right.
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alastairp
mbdata does the same thing - if you've managed to set it up yourself then you don't need it
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reosarevok
Yeah, I guess if you already have all installed, you could drop the sample data, and install the main data, and that would be the same
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mrtriad
Oh, ok.
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mrtriad
Welp, thanks again :3
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mrtriad
Have a nice day and good luck at keeping up the project ^^
Hi _lucifer so apparently since jcenter has served its end, the barcode scanner library that we used to use needed to be switched since its creator had stopped the support and even the repo was no longer available, I have made the switch to the Google ML-Kit Barcode scanning library.
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akshaaatt[m] uploaded a video: MusicBrainz (6484KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/WKrNNxNAIENvEzBoBazFqRIl >
2021-05-06 12634, 2021
yvanzo
Hi nelgin: Sorry for not responding earlier, this is a SEARCH bug (happened in prod too), it is not related to your settings.
akshaaatt[m]: we cannot use google ml library or for that matter any closed source library. otherwise we cannot publish on fdroid.
2021-05-06 12620, 2021
ROpdebee
reosarevok: RE that tweet, no clue. there's not much to go off, could be due to recent changes, could be similar to MBS-11621, could be something else entirely
searching on pypi for other zip libraries also doesn't turn up much only xtract and reusables seem usable and xtract is GPLv3. reuseables is MIT license. i'll checkout reuseables and see if it serves our purpose.
2021-05-06 12615, 2021
alastairp
_lucifer: ok, it's a quick fix on 1424, let me do it now. it was related to my question about the new spark image
2021-05-06 12627, 2021
alastairp
_lucifer: the reason for using a streaming library is so that we don't have to load all items into memory, then compress it, then send it (that'll make a request take a long time, especially for a large dataset)
2021-05-06 12642, 2021
alastairp
another option would be to only allow users to do it for small datasets, but that's annoying too
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_lucifer
how about moving the task into background and asking the user to check back later on a page that will get updated once the zip is generated?
2021-05-06 12648, 2021
_lucifer
we could say retain the zip for a week or so.
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alastairp
yeah, that was the other other option, but it has its own set of problems
