#metabrainz

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      • Freso
        That's more fun.
      • zas
        i'm there
      • Freso
        And it ensures that me being AFK for 2 minutes doesn't hold back the meeting :)
      • reosarevok
        Ok, so zas, you go
      • bitmap can go after zas
      • zas
        it will be fast, i'm trying to figure out how to get rid of our hosted mail system, and for now failed.
      • i'm waiting answers from Gandi.net
      • Freso
        !m zas (even if that didn't work yet)
      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, zas (even if that didn't work yet)!
      • zas
        well, i'm quite unhappy with this week, not very productive
      • reosarevok
        Everybody knows Gandhi is always silence, silence and then nukes
      • zas
        and now i'm fighting with exim, thx to Freso ;)
      • reosarevok
        zas: you've been working not-very-part-time and hardcore for ages, you might as well have some less productive weeks too
      • To stop making us look bad
      • ruaok
        lol
      • yes, thanks for working more than reosarevok. :-p
      • zas
        lol
      • reosarevok
        Hey, I'm over a million edits and all. That must count for something (?)
      • zas
        Also i would like to welcome chrisskye
      • Freso
        zas: :D
      • reosarevok
        (even if only for declaring me insane)
      • zas
        fin.
      • Freso
        bitmap: :)
      • bitmap
        hi
      • last week was less focused than normal, I mostly worked on random tickets
      • there was a problem with the caa-indexer crashing early in the week, which I deployed a fix for
      • and then documented parts of the indexer in syswiki
      • reosarevok
        Yay docs
      • JonnyJD joined the channel
      • CallerNo6
        +yay
      • bitmap
        tried to figure out why dagon wasn't serving translated pages, but it ended up mysteriously fixing itself
      • (after restarting the service)
      • ruaok
        wow, you passed drsaunde. congrats reosarevok, you're certifiable.
      • :)
      • bitmap
        worked on MBS-8722, MBS-8730, and two cleanup PRs that don't have tickets
      • I also finished porting the link_entity macro to react, but I was waiting for an upstream PR I have to be merged
      • I may just add a workaround an submit it anyway
      • looks like that's all for me, fin
      • LordSputnik
        sneaking in.... This week I've finished off the script for migrating our current schema, "v0", to our new and improved "v1" schema - with the exception of relationships between entities, which we're still working out. Also did some more work on moving the site to being independent of the web service, so we now have search implemented there as well. As part of that I've been improving the models in the
      • node.js ORM. Also have been approving GCI tasks, and we almost have our first style guideline approved (opatel99 + ariessa) (poke, Leftmost, check your mail), some annoying display bugs fixed (opatel99), and a whole suite of web service tests nearly done (stanislas).
      • fin :)
      • ruaok
        did you manage to get any sleep, bitmap ?
      • my day has been challenging.
      • Freso wonders if opatel99, gcilou, stanislas or other GCI students want to chime in?
      • bitmap
        yes, eventually I got a few hours in, heh
      • Freso
        If so, you can go after Gentlecat.
      • Gentlecat: Go ;)
      • Gentlecat
        hello 🙋
      • Freso
        🙋
      • ruaok
        bitmap: here is the best quote of the day, which also explains why I got hit so hard: "David Bowie’s death is a litmus test for weirdness. The misfits and freaks are devastated, the normals are, “Oh, too bad.""
      • Freso
        ... I'm a normal. D:
      • chirlu`
        By that measure, I’m normal too …
      • chrisskye
        I’m some sort of hybrid.
      • Freso hopes Gentlecat is typing a loong message and not just ran off...
      • Gentlecat
        Last week I deployed new JS/CSS build system for AB, fixed some login issues there
      • Also merged some fixes for CB and tweaked layout a bit
      • Freso
        ("Ooh! Thread from a ball of yarn!")
      • zas
        Damn i fall in misfits category....
      • Gentlecat
        Helped alastairp a bit with fixing our wrapper for memcached
      • ruaok
        zas: no surprise here.
      • Gentlecat
        And took another look at the whole in-site communication/notifications thing
      • Freso
        ( reosarevok, chirlu`: How "long" do you think your topics will be? )
      • chirlu`
        (Not very.)
      • ruaok
        ready for a blog post yet, Gentlecat ?
      • Gentlecat
      • stanislas
        Freso: I couldn't say it better than LordSputnik :)
      • reosarevok
        (probably not very)
      • Gentlecat
        I'm starting to think that XMPP might actually be an overkill for what we need in the end
      • stanislas
        Are the meetings over now ?
      • reosarevok
        Nope, around the full hour probs
      • Gentlecat
        And it will probably be easier to do something custom for ourselves, but I didn't write any of this down yet
      • bitmap
        my comment on MBS-8721 seems relevant, if it's only used internally I'd tend to agree...
      • Gentlecat
        Hopefully next week
      • Meanwhile, any comments on these tickets are welcome
      • fun.
      • ruaok
        gah, less custom code please.
      • Gentlecat
        I mean fin
      • ruaok
        because what starts simple, inevitably turns into complex shizzle.
      • Freso
        ^
      • Gentlecat
        ruaok: XMPP will require custom too
      • Freso
        chirlu`: Go.
      • ruaok
        less custom, I would think.
      • chirlu`
        My week was rather slow.
      • I did fix a few tiny MBS tickets.
      • Freso
        (Anyone who wants to go/I've missed, poke me, or we'll skip to topics once chirlu`'s fin'd.)
      • gcilou
        poke
      • chirlu`
        I also thought a bit about speed improvements for edit search and for opportunities to make use of new Pg features and opened a number of tickets.
      • Finally, some support issues on IRC or forums (e.g. data users had trouble with caching, David Bowie was undead for them).
      • fin
      • Freso
        gcilou: Go.
      • gcilou
        Here I go! This week I've done some pretty neat things, I finished adding the spotify play button to the review editor in CB, learning a ton the entire time from Gentlecat and others :) Also, I began and finished the MeB Intro to the Foundation and the projects video (On YouTube now!), and learned a lot from Freso, CallerNo6 and others helping on that one! So far, GCi has been awesome, and I'm very happy
      • that I picked MeB as my company to work with :D
      • ruaok
        :-D
      • Freso
        gcilou's video for anyone who didn't see it yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CVNe9gmG6c
      • bitmap
        (re: Pg, any news on baron?)
      • Freso
        !m gcilou
      • BrainzBot
        You're doing good work, gcilou!
      • gcilou
        :) Thanks to all!
      • Freso
        !topic
      • reosarevok: spammer activity, go.
      • reosarevok
        So
      • We keep getting spammers creating users with links like "buy instagram followers" - but that's kinda ok because they don't affect the data
      • (the ones I see, because they post the links on Twitter, I just remove)
      • Freso
        And report them to Twitter?
      • reosarevok
        Yes, not that it's made any difference ever
      • Gentlecat
        That seems like a waste of time
      • reosarevok
        But this week we got one that also added an event with the spam link
      • And that's more worrying
      • Freso
        I've seen Instagram being really good at removing spammers, but that's obv. not Twitter though.
      • reosarevok
        I mostly would like people to think of what we can do to avoid this kind of thing
      • Freso
        Did you make a ticket where we can collect thoughts/ideas?
      • ruaok
        maybe have a keyword watcher that watches over edits?
      • chirlu`
        I thought of checking new URLs against blacklists, but at least this particular URL wasn’t on the usual lists.
      • reosarevok
        Obviously if people see them we can get rid of the offending entity / user, but if they're adding the stuff to the actual data, we'll be sending the spam forwards to customers and the like
      • ruaok
        twitter and instgram are not terms that appear too much in actual music titles.
      • reosarevok
        No, but they're linking to URLs
      • And they do appear in a lot of urls :p
      • Specimen joined the channel
      • "purchase" and "followers" in the same URL, not so much, but that's very specific to this one case
      • chirlu`
        Have a report of “entities added in that last X time” for manual reviewing?
      • Because at the moment the only way to find these things is by looking through all edits.
      • ruaok
        I wonder if we should upgrade our sign-up captcha to use the latest and greatest from Google.
      • zas
        reosarevok: do you have examples of such account ?
      • Freso
        (2 more minutes, then we're moving to chirlu`'s topic.)
      • reosarevok
        zas: not at the moment, because I removed them. chirlu` might have been smarter and screenshotted it or something
      • zas
        ok
      • chirlu`
        Upgrading CAPTCHA sounds good in general, but I believe these particular spammers do it manually.
      • ruaok
        yeah, I was afraid of that.
      • is upgrading the captcha a suitable task for GCI?
      • Freso
        reosarevok: Make a ticket for collecting thoughts and ideas for how to handle this, and maybe we can talk about it again next week.
      • reosarevok
        Ok
      • Freso
        chirlu`: DR MBS-8451, go. :)
      • reosarevok
        Is that MBS? OTHER?
      • ruaok notes that DR == Discussion Required
      • chirlu`
        So, we clean up and standardize URLs.
      • ruaok
        if chrisskye is still not bored to tears
      • Freso
        reosarevok: I'd say MBS.
      • reosarevok
        Ok
      • chrisskye
        ummm....
      • Freso
        ruaok: Decision, but good call :)
      • chirlu`
        There are sites that support both http and https.
      • Up to now, we stored them as http, but presented it as scheme-less links on the site
      • (i.e. users on http://musicbrainz.org/ got http link, on https:// got https link).
      • Now Wikimedia switched to https-only, redirecting http requests.
      • And question is: Should we change all our Wikidata/Commons/(Wikipedia) URLs to https?
      • ruaok
        is there a downside to doing that?
      • chirlu`
        Or should we continue to store http, but always present them as https?
      • reosarevok
        There are over half a million
      • Freso is very much on the HTTPS only and everywhere train, so would prefer to store https:// - but I'm not militant enough about to strongly object to storing http:// instead.
      • chirlu`
        ruaok: Downside is zillions of edits.