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      • Freso
        chirlu`: Please pick the next. :)
      • chirlu`
        reosarevok, you are next then.
      • reosarevok
        I did the usual support stuff, plus I'm adding and fixing classical stuff for the BBC half the week for a couple weeks, starting last one
      • So, lots of adding and fixing :p
      • That's about it really. gcilou: go
      • gcilou
        This week I worked on the Team page and the Projects page for the MeB website, with the help of Freso, reosarevok, Gentlecat, and LordSputnik. And really everyone who I badgered for bios and pictures. I’m thankful/sad that GCI is officially done. It’s been an exhausting/exhilarating/exciting 7 weeks.
      • fin
      • Freso
        And pick the next one. ;)
      • gcilou
        ^ and help of Leo_Verto. Gentlecat go
      • Freso
        ( CJ_ and Gentlecat are left.)
      • Gentlecat
        Last week I didn't have time to do anything apart from helping GCI students and reviewing their work.
      • University is consuming a lot of time and it's not changing any time soon. :(
      • Started writing blog post draft about messaging/notifications, but that's still far from being done.
      • fin.
      • Freso
        CJ_: You're the only one left. :)
      • CJ_
        Just like gym class. :)
      • Freso
        Aw.
      • CJ_
        I am currently working on two things. SOLR-6 and solr logging.
      • For some reason solr is not logging correctly. I believe it has something to do with the mbssss configuration but I have not determined what yet.
      • SOLR-6 does not appear to be a sir issue. All the data is returned when doing a regular search but does not work correctly with the example search.
      • The problem appears to be in the custom query code that was written for solr.
      • I would prefer to remove it and have MB query solr directly but I have been told that is a no go and solr needs to return a format MB is familiar with.
      • Questions?
      • chirlu`
        Not MB is familiar with, the data users are familiar with. It’s part of our API.
      • CJ_
        We expect users to directly query solr?
      • chirlu`
        Otherwise we would need to convert it somewhere.
      • Well, yes. All web service searches are directly forwarded to the search server.
      • Freso
        reosarevok: I can't remember why our topic is still on for this week.
      • reosarevok
        Neither do I :p
      • CJ_
        Perhaps convert is in the web service? I am not familiar with the architecture outside of solr.
      • reosarevok
        I guess the second topic can't be done without ruaok and the third might need his input?
      • CJ_
        Unless there are other questions, I am done. fin
      • Freso
        Oh, Leftmost? Leo_Verto maybe?
      • LordSputnik doesn't seem to be around.
      • chirlu`
        He is Sput|Away, so no.
      • bitmap
        the 3rd topic is just deciding on a date. then I can write a blog post announcing the downtime. so would prefer ruaok's input
      • Freso
        Well, I can talk a bit about GCI, though I guess I'll also talk more about it the coming week(s). :)
      • chirlu`
        We can make the final decision regarding http-to-https method of conversion. :)
      • Freso
        Sure. :)
      • chirlu`
        No-one set up a bot (as far as I am aware of), but I wrote the SQL for doing it without edits.
      • Freso
        Let's go with that, then.
      • Anyone opposed?
      • bitmap
        I'm not opposed to either. someone would have to volunteer to run the bot, though. the SQL is something I can just run myself :)
      • Freso
        Doesn't look like it.
      • chirlu`
        BTW, I have a pull request open against murdos’s bot to make it add new Wikidata URLs with https. Obviously this bot is a major source of new WD URLs.
      • Freso
        I say chirlu` gives his SQL to bitmap to run and gets this done with. :)
      • Ah, yeah.
      • So maybe hold on with running the SQL until the PR has been merged?
      • (Or run it again at that point?)
      • chirlu`
        Ah no, the SQL has to be run in batches over several days anyway.
      • In order not to overload the replication packets.
      • Freso
        👍
      • chirlu`
        bitmap: It’s in the ticket.
      • Freso
        Anyone else have something for the meeting?
      • bitmap
        I saw it, thanks :)
      • we can do the first batch today, I guess
      • chrisskye
        nothing from me
      • Freso
        Okay. About GCI, I just want to thank all the mentors and students for this run. It's not completely over until Wednesday, but we only have 5 (or less) open tasks right now, and there won't be more open tasks.
      • Next week I'll have numbers and stats to share, but we are not allowed to disclose the winners/finalists until Google's own blog post on the 8th.
      • And also thanks to everyone else in the channels for helping students (and mentors) to figure things out. It's definitely been an exciting first GCI. :)
      • And with that, let's finish up five minutes early for once, yeah? :)
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      • CJ_
        I would like to continue the search format discussion. Who would best be involved in that?
      • Freso
        chirlu` and bitmap and possibly Gentlecat strike me as the best candidates. :)
      • bitmap
        CJ_: a problem with having our perl process the search server responses is that we have a finite number of perl processes to handle requests, and having them wait for the search response ties too many up for too long
      • chirlu`
        And Mineo and possibly ruaok.
      • CJ_
        bitmap, I am unclear as to what you mean. Why would they be waiting?
      • bitmap
        this is why we use the x-accel-redirect thing in nginx, and have nginx wait for them
      • Freso
        chrisskye: Are you involved with the business cards as well, or is that ruaok only?
      • CJ_
        bitmap, Then they are not touching the web service at all and are directly connecting to search?
      • Freso
        Yes.
      • CJ_
        Hmm.
      • Freso
        They are being directly forwarded by the nginx frontend, I believe.
      • chrisskye
        I think that is up to ruaok until such time as he passes it to me...
      • bitmap
        they are touching the webservice, but MBS forwards the request
      • CJ_
        MBS?
      • Freso
        Oh, right.
      • bitmap
        the response is returned unaltered
      • Freso
        MB Server
      • bitmap
        musicbrainz-server
      • chrisskye
        ...if he gives me the criteria, I can get it done
      • Freso
        chrisskye: I'll let him know. ;)
      • chrisskye
        :)
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      • bitmap
      • the only thing we really do on the perl side is construct the query params above
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      • zas is restarting search servers again
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      • gcilou
        Freso, whoeverelsewantstochimein, I'm playing around with the team page again, you like without borders? Text justified or no? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/p6kyf... https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CNXaD...
      • (2nd pic is justified)
      • Freso
        It actually works fine without the separators, yeah.
      • kepstin
        hmm. justified text is a bit unusual on web pages, mostly because you don't have hyphenation.
      • gcilou
        Right
      • kepstin
        in this case the line lengths are long enough it seems ok, but imo it gives too much of an impression of "rigidity" and "order" :)
      • and we're all pretty fun and strange folk here :)
      • Freso
        I actually think the justified version looks better here.
      • gcilou
        with smaller browser size, it looks really funky justified
      • kepstin
        yeah, mobile devices in particular will have problems when you get long words
      • Freso
        Quite possibly.
      • kepstin
        hmm. the black & white photos means that we can't see rob's hair :/
      • Freso
        Isn't there some Unicode character or HTML something that can be used to hyphenate words but only display the hyphen when the word actualls gets broken up?
      • gcilou
        Yeah, but with everyone else in b&w, chrisskye ruaok and LordSputnik really stuck out
      • Freso
        I think I've seen this, but I'm not sure.
      • kepstin
        Freso: yeah, but it's kind of annoying because the character is included when you copy/paste and it breaks search in some browsers
      • Freso
        Right.
      • Is it Unicode?
      • Gentlecat
        maybe zas still has original photos
      • kepstin
        yeah, the "soft hyphen"
      • Freso
        Alright.
      • Gentlecat
        since these are all from the summit
      • kepstin
        maybe make all the photos b&w, except leave rob's hair in colour.
      • Freso
        chrisskye's and ruaok's aren't. :p
      • But yeah.
      • kepstin
        ? :)\
      • Gentlecat
        well, we have colored versions of those
      • Freso
        kepstin: That was my first thought when I saw your comment. :p
      • gcilou
        should alastair's title/name be moved over to the left, or aligned with everyone elses? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VOa4g...
      • Freso
        gcilou: I'm not sure what you're asking.
      • kepstin
        maybe drop in a placeholder image there? like a grey square, or head outline, or whatever.
      • gcilou
        should his title be lined up with the pictures, or the other titles?
      • Freso
        Also, even if alastairp doesn't want a bio blurb, something like "Project lead for AcousticBrainz." should probably be used anyway.
      • gcilou
        OK
      • Freso has now (co-)written 3 of the bio blurbs on the page. :p
      • lol, well I've edited all of them XD
      • *almost all :)
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      • and note that I did change the title to "The MetaBrainz Team" from "Meet the MetaBrainz Foundation Team" so it will match the project page
      • Freso
        Speaking of editing, Leftmost's should probably say "is the other of the two project leaders".
      • Maybe use the AB logo for alastairp?
      • gcilou
      • ok
      • Freso
        (Since he's, y'know, the AB lead.)
      • Orange looks neat.
      • Does orange provide enough contrast against the white?
      • kepstin
        I think so, yes. That's the same orange as the sign up button and 'Brainz' in the logo, right?
      • Freso
        I think so.
      • (I assume gcilou's used a LESS variable for the colour.)
      • gcilou
        yup @orange
      • Freso
        I also like the connotation that orange is the cross-project colour, so listing our titles with the orange denotes that we're with all the projects.
      • But maybe I'm reading too much into it now. :)
      • gcilou
        I like the orange since the navbar is in green, green was sort of over powering the orange. Maybe every other? Or that would look like a circus.
      • Freso
        👍
      • gcilou: But perhaps "cheat" and use the SVG you've already added/am adding anyway for the Projects page ;)
      • gcilou
        ok
      • Freso
        (So people will only download the image once if they go to first the Projects/Team page and then afterwards go to look at the Team/Projects page.)