my answer is " a month ago for christmas" and then a whole lot a few months before that
2016-01-27 02736, 2016
CatQuest
also just this week bought several "releases" on bandcamp
2016-01-27 02736, 2016
CatQuest
so yeeeaa
2016-01-27 02759, 2016
CatQuest
!m gcilou
2016-01-27 02759, 2016
BrainzBot
You're doing good work, gcilou!
2016-01-27 02705, 2016
CatQuest
(just cause)
2016-01-27 02745, 2016
stanislas
Freso: If you mean that It will use the bb web-service you are apparently right.
2016-01-27 02759, 2016
Freso
"Apparently"? :p
2016-01-27 02715, 2016
Freso
How else would you interface with BB?
2016-01-27 02704, 2016
stanislas
forget the word, there is a mistake in my dictionary
2016-01-27 02729, 2016
stanislas
It says that it means obviously
2016-01-27 02709, 2016
Freso
Not quite. :)
2016-01-27 02759, 2016
Freso
Or maybe it does.
2016-01-27 02702, 2016
Freso
The connotations I get with it is that it is something that is so, but is not necessarily obviously so.
2016-01-27 02718, 2016
Freso
I don't know how to explain it. And I'm also not a native English speaker. :)
2016-01-27 02713, 2016
reosarevok
Freso: is both :)
2016-01-27 02727, 2016
chirlu`
Apparently means that it appears to be so, but there is a caveat that the appearance may be wrong.
2016-01-27 02732, 2016
reosarevok
Well dunno about apparent*ly*, but apparent is definitely both
2016-01-27 02731, 2016
Freso
Or maybe it's that the "obviously" meaning is not used much anymore? The quote at https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/apparently#Adverb is from Shakespeare, so maybe that meaning is not used commonly in modern-day English, even if it is still a valid meaning?
2016-01-27 02732, 2016
chirlu`
“used by speakers or writers to avoid committing themselves to the truth of what they are saying.”
2016-01-27 02728, 2016
CatQuest
ok, i1ve read about this "blockchain" thing and.. uhh basically it's musicbrainz? I am reminded by this xkcd strip in which we get yet anoder standard
2016-01-27 02742, 2016
CatQuest
the information about music part anyway
2016-01-27 02714, 2016
Freso
This is why Imogen really wants MB to be part of her crusade.
I would assume more (native English speaking) people know what a ledger is than who knows what peer-to-peer is. :)
2016-01-27 02745, 2016
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stanislas
Freso: I just got what ngs stands for :) It can be omitted in bookbrainz obviously (not apparently)
2016-01-27 02750, 2016
Gentlecat
Freso: can you look at that blog post thing?
2016-01-27 02741, 2016
LordSputnik
Freso: reosarevok: stanislas: you could get away with switching "apparent" with "obvious", but not "apparently" with "obviously" :P
2016-01-27 02738, 2016
stanislas
LordSputnik: I
2016-01-27 02711, 2016
stanislas
LordSputnik: I've just seen the coverage on particular files. It would increase significantly If I uncomment some tests, that are disabled due to bugs.
2016-01-27 02759, 2016
stanislas
The red lines on coveralls.io means that something is not tested ?
2016-01-27 02704, 2016
stanislas
* mean
2016-01-27 02735, 2016
gcilou
Thanks CatQuest.
2016-01-27 02755, 2016
stanislas
LordSputnik: Maybe I will include them in try: except
2016-01-27 02722, 2016
LordSputnik
stanislas: there's no problem with letting them fail
2016-01-27 02737, 2016
LordSputnik
stanislas: If them failing causes other tests not to run, then we should split the tests
2016-01-27 02739, 2016
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2016-01-27 02732, 2016
stanislas
Spliting them would cause sample data to generate once more. It is very slow. Maybe there is some way of not setting it up sometimes.
2016-01-27 02705, 2016
stanislas
And what about the user script ? Do you still think it is better than chrome extension or qt desktop app ?
2016-01-27 02709, 2016
Leo_Verto
CatQuest, the blockchain is the heart of Bitcoin
2016-01-27 02722, 2016
Leo_Verto
or any cryptocurrency for that matter
2016-01-27 02743, 2016
Leo_Verto
basically it's magic
2016-01-27 02753, 2016
CatQuest
sounds dumb :D
2016-01-27 02705, 2016
CatQuest
and or intentionally cryptic
2016-01-27 02734, 2016
CatQuest
(I dislike things made intentionally cryptic)
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reosarevok
I assume it's just very complicated, but I haven't seen a good explanation yet
2016-01-27 02752, 2016
CatQuest
ye
2016-01-27 02754, 2016
CatQuest
a
2016-01-27 02755, 2016
stanislas
It is not.
2016-01-27 02708, 2016
Leo_Verto
I'd say it is
2016-01-27 02712, 2016
stanislas
There is a nice course on Coursera about cryptocurrencies. There was.
2016-01-27 02721, 2016
Leo_Verto
It's quite a new concept
2016-01-27 02749, 2016
Leo_Verto
And understanding it completely requires math stuffs
2016-01-27 02700, 2016
CatQuest
stanislas is a kid thoguh, so to that generation this is easy. we're getting old
2016-01-27 02701, 2016
CatQuest
:D
2016-01-27 02706, 2016
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CatQuest
hey i have math stuffs!
2016-01-27 02716, 2016
Leo_Verto
So I'm quite amazed someone managed to convince bank CEOs they should use that
2016-01-27 02702, 2016
Leo_Verto
But that article does a really poor job at explaining it
2016-01-27 02725, 2016
CatQuest
I need like... a pharagraph or 3 that explains it clearly. somewhere betwee "it's this black box of macjik thingy:D" and "its [blah blah blah]815 paragraphs of technobabble] and NO WHERE NEAR 15 paragraphs of "this innovative reflection touch base jada jada" crap that was that heep article
2016-01-27 02746, 2016
Leo_Verto
yOka
2016-01-27 02752, 2016
Leo_Verto
I've read the Wikipedia article
2016-01-27 02721, 2016
CatQuest
y Oka?
2016-01-27 02737, 2016
Leo_Verto
Cat on secondary keyboard :P
2016-01-27 02746, 2016
CatQuest
awesome. k
2016-01-27 02733, 2016
Leo_Verto
Let's talk about how bitcoin works!
2016-01-27 02739, 2016
CatQuest
ugh
2016-01-27 02752, 2016
Leo_Verto
So you've got a currency, we'll ignore how it's created
2016-01-27 02708, 2016
CatQuest
I don't really care about crypto currencies. I mean. I get it's all data and not real gold
2016-01-27 02708, 2016
Leo_Verto
But people can make transactions, from one account to another
what i wanan a know is how do yo uactually "get" it unless oy uactually uy it wth real money?
2016-01-27 02732, 2016
Leo_Verto
They throw that transaction into the peer2peer network that is the blockchain
2016-01-27 02740, 2016
CatQuest
oh!
2016-01-27 02754, 2016
Leo_Verto
Part of that transaction is a hash (will look into why that is)
2016-01-27 02707, 2016
Leo_Verto
you also pay a small transaction fee
2016-01-27 02717, 2016
CatQuest
in rm or bicoin?
2016-01-27 02735, 2016
Leo_Verto
bitcoin, fixed percentage
2016-01-27 02741, 2016
CatQuest
aka
2016-01-27 02751, 2016
Leo_Verto
the miners are doing a lot of heavy computing, right?
2016-01-27 02710, 2016
Leo_Verto
so what they are doing is checking those transactions, do the totals add up, is the hash correct
2016-01-27 02719, 2016
Leo_Verto
and for that, they are payed the transaction fee
2016-01-27 02734, 2016
Leo_Verto
all of that involves a lot of math, but I think this is how it works
2016-01-27 02739, 2016
CatQuest
so what that hepp woman wants to do is transfer music files rought the blockchain peer-network in exchange for crypto currencies? honestly if I made music i'd rather use bandcamp
2016-01-27 02751, 2016
Leo_Verto
well, crypto currencies are one thing
2016-01-27 02715, 2016
Leo_Verto
implementing a blockchain outside one is possible, though I don't know how that'd really work though
2016-01-27 02714, 2016
CatQuest
seems unnecessary complicated when you have bandcamp, jamendo and conventional p2p
2016-01-27 02753, 2016
Leo_Verto
also the way cryptocurrencies are "seeded" is by making the miners also solve other cryptological riddles which pay out an increasingly diminishing amount of *coin
2016-01-27 02758, 2016
CatQuest
uh.. or is it like "you can buy it but not plut it out of the block chain thingy since we can controll it if it's not inide the bloakcchain thing
2016-01-27 02707, 2016
Leo_Verto
I think it's bruteforcing hashes but I'm not too sure on that one
[13:44] <CatQuest> my answer is " a month ago for christmas" and then a whole lot a few months before that
2016-01-27 02759, 2016
CatQuest
[13:44] <CatQuest> also just this week bought seve
2016-01-27 02706, 2016
CatQuest
oops whole quote
2016-01-27 02708, 2016
reosarevok
There was stuff in Forbes that might be more first-source
2016-01-27 02710, 2016
CJ_
I just bought cds last week.
2016-01-27 02717, 2016
CJ_
Or was it the week before last?
2016-01-27 02718, 2016
reosarevok
But they didn't let me in with an adblocker so I shrugged and left
2016-01-27 02742, 2016
CatQuest
forbes?
2016-01-27 02755, 2016
Leo_Verto
in the business world, "the blockchain" is just the new buzzword like "the cloud" or "big data"
2016-01-27 02707, 2016
CatQuest
bleh
2016-01-27 02724, 2016
Leo_Verto
doesn't mean there aren't possible use cases for it
2016-01-27 02728, 2016
CatQuest
sure
2016-01-27 02749, 2016
CatQuest
i just don't like.. uhh "businesses hipsterism"
2016-01-27 02708, 2016
Leo_Verto
but that requires wildly new thinking, decentralization goes basically against how we've done anything in the last few hundred years
2016-01-27 02716, 2016
reosarevok
You don't like business in general, CatQuest, do you :p
2016-01-27 02729, 2016
reosarevok
(nor hipsterism in general, so I can see how the combination would be terrible :) )
2016-01-27 02708, 2016
Leo_Verto
"the business" had hipsterism way before it was cool :P
2016-01-27 02732, 2016
CatQuest
they did. they touched base and synergised...
2016-01-27 02732, 2016
reosarevok
Leo_Verto: I mean, I guess the cloud and big data stuff *are* also examples of decentralisation that the business world has adopted kinda fine
2016-01-27 02751, 2016
reosarevok
(but they're easier to understand for the average person than this)
2016-01-27 02759, 2016
Leo_Verto
mhm, I wouldn't say outsourcing is decentralizing
2016-01-27 02703, 2016
CatQuest
how do I add "vocals " to a member off? i cna only chose "lead vocals"
2016-01-27 02721, 2016
Leo_Verto
the cloud is just the post-fordism of the IT sector
2016-01-27 02726, 2016
reosarevok
CatQuest: you don't. Part of why I want to merge vocals into the instrument tree
2016-01-27 02736, 2016
CatQuest
reosarevok: you have my vote then pls
2016-01-27 02749, 2016
reosarevok
Freso should finish setting up discourse soon ;)
2016-01-27 02757, 2016
Leo_Verto
:D
2016-01-27 02703, 2016
Leo_Verto
<3 discourse
2016-01-27 02704, 2016
reosarevok
Freso: are we automatically giving everyone a discourse account?
2016-01-27 02716, 2016
CatQuest
I want id42!!!!
2016-01-27 02720, 2016
CatQuest
seriously
2016-01-27 02728, 2016
reosarevok
Because if everyone needs to do the scary oauth stuff by hand that's not much better than a new sign on
2016-01-27 02746, 2016
Leo_Verto
"I hope a Mycelia-like place will exist: huge, beautiful, rich, colourful, loved, tended for; holding all music-related information ever recorded anywhere"
2016-01-27 02748, 2016
reosarevok
(and I'd really like for it to be as easy as possible for everyone, so they get there and think "huh I can just post"
