#metabrainz

Freso: which variant were you thinking to use for https://github.com/musicbrainz? short horizontal/vertical?

the password is in syswiki btw, not sure if you have access to that

kanha: hi. audio search is interesting. We do some similar stuff with another of our projects, http://freesound.org/

in fact, many of the ideas we have for search on acousticbrainz at the moment are probably closer to text search - we want to be able to search for results from our classification problems, we want to search for bpm of songs (numbers), we want to search for all of the recordings we have by a particular artist, etc

You should open a discussion thread on the metabrainz forums with some of your ideas, and we can discuss it there

Freso: can topics have no category?

should they be added to a category always? who should be able to move? forum mods?

are you one? can you move https://community.metabrainz.org/t/search-api-f... to AB?

alastairp: thanks :) I will drop a mail on the forum

ohh, lots of new threads

alastairp: is this 'https://community.metabrainz.org/' the forum you were talking about ?

does listenbrainz not accept duplicate post of listens from api?

just fyi, I moved that topic linked above

and what does it consider for uniq record? release_mbid? recording_mbid?

timestamp is the key, iirc

it should just overwrite if data is the same

what should the time come if i give 0 timestamp?

also changing timestamp neither changes existing record nor adds a new one

zas: how hard would it be to get a cert for sentry.metabrainz.org?

armalcolite: I think there is a lower limit on the timestamp that you can submit

not hard if we go for https://letsencrypt.org/

yeah.

Gentlecat: it worked. seems jhe lower limit is 5 months. :)

*the

zas: is that happening any time soon? :)

got LE set up on a server of mine with automated cert renewal <3

Gentlecat: i can do it tomorrow morning

oh, cool

also does listenbrainz maintain a database of mbid's as submitting a random one gives 400 bad request.

define random

random string? random uuid?

Mineo: thanks for merging!

wow, those are old tickets ;)

how do i submit playcount as well to listenbrainz?

it can be useful data.

api does not provide any additional field

alastairp: I have created a thread. Where should I introduce myself to the community and send links to my past works?

armalcolite: are you submitting to listenbrainz.org or your local server?

what did you submit to get a bad request? we should return a message in the response telling you why you can’t submit it

alastairp: i m not using local server.

there is a small delay from when you submit to listenbrainz.org to when it appears on your profile, which is why you might think that changing the submission time didn’t do a duplicate

but that’s definitly how de-duplication works, submissions are tracked based on the submission time and metadata

what do you mean playcount?

the playcount for us is simply the number of distinct times that you’ve submitted the track to listenbrainz

I don’t think we’re interested in storing an additional number

lastfm api gives us playcount as well.

and more additional fields.

kanha: I don’t understand. I thought that you created a thread. why are you asking where to post?

should i try to aquire as much data as possible or just essential data

right, so perhaps the playcount on lastfm is the number of times that the song was scrobbled to last.fm

ok. so we are more interesed in creating a global database rather than personalized stuff. right?

alastairp: and yeah. duplicate works now.

alastairp: that was about the search feature in acousticbrainz. I thought I might have to send another mail to introduce myself to the community of some mailing list

*in mailing list

armalcolite: the goal for ListenBrainz is to replicate the functionality of the old AudioScrobbler project (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last.fm#Audioscro...)

so there’s only one goal for now: let people send a record of the current song that they are listening to

this core functionality exists, with a few rough edges (e.g. the timestamp resolution tickets you’ve already seen)

you can see that the SoC projects that we proposed for LB are around this theme

e.g., improving submissions, and visualising the data once we have it

kanha: I think mailing lists are pretty much dead

kanha: there’s a “introduce yourself” thread as well

forum is the place to post

in fact, we have no mailing lists

any more

yeah. i now have some idea of why i am doing things. :)

so the only data we need from last.fm for a user is the list of their songs, and the times at which they were scrobbled

alastairp: ok.

alastairp: I see.

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Hello, I was looking for some projects involving ListenBrainz. How could I start with ?

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alastairp: ping!

i am able to fetch lastfm listens and scroble them to listenbrainz

i need some lastfm accoints to test.

*accounts

*accounts

anyone has one with some plays?

why not just generate some data and submit it?

ok.

vk5: https://wiki.musicbrainz.org/Development/Summer...

Gentlecat: could you give some feedback on the idea for Gsoc in acousticbrainz.

Gentlecat: can u check?

i just uploaded some random listens on account 'armalcolite'

why not check it yourself?

for me its working. just want to make sure that i am going in the correct direction

i also ran it on AWS just to make sure. :)

you ran your script on aws?

is the code for your script online?

kartikgupta0909: I saw your posts, I was going to do a series of replies to people tomorrow

Oh sure.

alastairp: yes aws.

Freso: please make me get emails for all changes on LB tickets

alastairp: here's the link

alastairp: made a pull request for AB - 79, please have a look whenever possible.

alastairp: https://gist.github.com/pinkeshbadjatiya/d16d18...

alastairp: code quality is not yet good. will make changes once you approve of it.

kartikgupta0909: cool. I see it. I’ve been working all week on preparing the big migration of AB to this new branch

it’s almost done, so hopefully we can merge your PR into that soon

I have worked on the hlsplit branch

armalcolite: you shouldn’t wait for me or anyone else to approve any of your projects before you continue working on it

I think this script is cool, it fills a big problem we have with importing data into listenbrainz

do you have any ideas about how we can run it for lots of people?

kartikgupta0909: perfect

we can bulk insert multiple listens in one request

armalcolite: in the 6 months since we launched listenbrainz we have had 1000 people import over 100million scrobbles from last.fm into listenbrainz

how do you think these people can perform the import?

alastairp: we certainly need access to their lastfm accounts

yeah. it depends if they have a public or a private account

if it’s public, we don’t even need them to give us access

I think you found this out, right? - you can read the scrobble data for anyone’s account using the api

alastairp: yeah.

alastairp: that is what i am using.

one reason we made the javascript interface is because it was a way of distributing this work

if lastfm didn’t want us to make API queries, they could block our IP address, for example

but javascript sucked up lots of ram for last libraries

yes, it has some memory leaks that we didn’t find