#metabrainz

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      • Gentlecat
        uhh, I think most of it is done
      • ruaok
        ok, finish whatever still needs doing.
      • Gentlecat
        I added a couple of items that were missing into the google doc
      • ruaok
        perhaps you can bitmap can collaborate on the swarm stuff.
      • Gentlecat
        just waiting to have a way to test/migrate now
      • right, could do that
      • ruaok
        ideally when zas and I finish our bits, we can launch a test at Google Cloud.
      • ruaok shuts up for now
      • bitmap
        was trying to figure out how to make it schedule certain services only on certain machines
      • Gentlecat
        фин
      • ruaok
        zas?
      • Freso assumes ^ is "fin" in Cyrillic
      • reosarevok
        Freso: learn Cyrillic :p (and yes)
      • ruaok
        well, zas is off at a BBQ. he was hoping to return in time, but it doesn't appear so.
      • ruaok goes
      • Freso
        reosarevok: Learning a new language is hard enough... Cyrillic's a whole new alphabet. :(
      • Bye ruaok!
      • Oh, wait.
      • reosarevok
        Learning a language is hard, learning an alphabet is much easier :)
      • CatQuest
        true
      • reosarevok
        (well an easy one like Cyrillic)
      • ruaok
        I spent a bunch of time doing musicbrainz-vm stuff, reviewing LB PRs and testing code. made a pile of new bug reports with a goal to merge the biggest PR very soon.
      • Freso
        But learning one alphabet while learning a language that doesn't use said alphabet...
      • CatQuest
        ie I know more hiragana and katakana than japanese
      • reosarevok
        Let's let ruaok talk :)
      • ruaok
        I also did the usual biz dev stuff, but nothing terribly interesting.
      • we did collect $40k from google and $36k from Universal, so our bank account is looking happy. :)
      • reosarevok
        yay
      • ruaok
        schluß!
      • (fin)
      • LordSputnik:
      • ruaok prods Freso to keep the meeting moving
      • CallerNo6
        ausgefrigginzeichnet
      • Freso
        ruaok: I usually give people a minute after their name has been called.
      • Leftmost: ?
      • Leftmost
        Nothing from me. Sorry I didn't mention that earlier.
      • Freso
        Leo_Verto: ?
      • Leo_Verto
        I just came back from camping earlier today, so I'm still trying to catch up on everything. Fin.
      • Freso
        alastairp!
      • alastairp
        hi
      • not a lot, I'm right in the middle of merging one of armalcolite's LB PRs
      • and then on to daniele's
      • that's it
      • Freso
        Looks like CatQuest's around, so go CatQuest!
      • CatQuest
        was gonna say I hadn't much, but just på tampen (as we say here) I've updated all the instruments (including adding the gizmo and pianet) in the STYLE-652 ticket to have their inventorpersons linked :]
      • lækker
      • :D
      • Freso
        🙌
      • rahulr: Go!
      • rahulr
        Okay.
      • Looked a bit into failing travis builds of Picard, which was due to recent mutagen changes.
      • Added some documentation into my soc code.
      • Improved my album dialog for better display of search results. Git branch: https://github.com/rahul-raturi/picard/tree/emb...
      • Spent some time trying to understand how picard handles coverarts downloading. I'm trying to display covers alongside search results.
      • Fin.
      • Freso
        QuoraUK: Go!
      • QuoraUK
        Got two pr's up this week, one merged, one almost ready. Added JSdoc to my achievement module. And a bunch of rebasing to clean up my commits and make them much easier to merge.
      • Tests are still being added as I go along, rebasing all my old work and cleaning it up still
      • Freso
        ("lækker" means "delicious", but can also be used to mean "good looking". "Fin" means "pretty", and thus also a synonym for being "good looking". /Scandinavian language lesson)
      • QuoraUK
        looking on track to finish in time for the deadline :)
      • fin
      • Freso does Norwegian better than Cyrillic :p
      • Freso
        armalcolite!
      • armalcolite
        Hi!
      • This week was not much just addressing lots of feedback on the multiple PR's
      • thats it.
      • fin.
      • Freso
        hellska!
      • hellska
        Hi
      • not so much from my side this week
      • just one commit for the submission without MBIDs
      • CatQuest
        :O you actually got my joke \o/
      • hellska
        :P
      • fin …
      • Freso
        kartikgupta0909 says:
      • """
      • Last week I worked on the API end point to get low-level data for upto 200 recordings in a single request. This week I will be writing the client code to actually recieve the dataset and run the corresponding job on it.
      • """
      • And with that, reviews are concluded!
      • jduke: VideoBrainz!
      • jduke
        Thanks!
      • Freso
        And hi jduke :D
      • CatQuest
        \o_
      • jduke
        First time to one of these meetings, and at this point not a whole lot to say.
      • Freso
      • jduke: Whatever you want to say :)
      • jduke
        I jumped in on a thread started by thwaller on what came to be called VideoBrainz; and there seems to be a germ of an idea starting
      • CatQuest
        it's ok, take your time :)
      • jduke
        I created a github organization to hold the early versions of our thoughts https://github.com/videobrainz
      • JonnyJD joined the channel
      • So, we'll see where this goes. At this point we're still in the early definition phase; trying to define what VideoBrainz means, come up with a schema, and that sort of thing
      • ruaok
        looking forward to watching this evolve. :)
      • jduke
        Any advice or guidance is much appreciated. Hopefully the momentum will continue.
      • Freso
        I'm personally very interested in seeing where this goes. :)
      • CatQuest
        very :D
      • Freso has been wanting a VideoBrainz for years!
      • Freso
        jduke: That was a perfect announcement of the project. Thank you. :) Anything else you want to add before we move on in the agenda?
      • jduke
        I'm specifically interested in picking the brains (no pun intended) of good VM based test/development environments. Anything to kickstart my development environment would help me quite a bit
      • Other than that. fin
      • ruaok
        jduke: Gentlecat, bitmap and I can certainly help.
      • what are your needs?
      • we're switching everything to docker, but I personally still find it useful to have separate VMs to host the containers.
      • perhaps we should chat a bit after the meeting. :)
      • jduke
        Advice mostly. I'm not unfamiliar with Dev Ops and VM's - use them in the architectures I design at work. But would rather start from something that already exists.
      • ruaok
        k, lets chat in a bit.
      • jduke
        I can hang around and discuss after the meeting. REALLY fin!
      • Freso
        jduke: If you're interested in forking from BookBrainz, maybe you could "just" literally do that?
      • CatQuest
      • Freso
        Okay then. :)
      • reosarevok: Stuff! Funding! Crowds!
      • reosarevok
        https://community.metabrainz.org/t/donation-pat... and https://community.metabrainz.org/t/crowdfunding... are basically ready to add, but could possibly use some constraints
      • Basically, we're a bit worried about the possibility of someone linking to a "fake" or unrelated funding page and scamming people to get their money
      • ruaok
        are all add relationships auto edits?
      • if so, how about making this one mandatory for voting, but with a shorter period?
      • bitmap
        yes
      • Freso
        I don't think a shorter period is needed.
      • Relationships are shown immediately anyway.
      • CatQuest
        yes
      • reosarevok
        Freso's idea (require a source from an official communication channel from the artist) makes sense, but that only helps if a) we can enforce at least an edit note requirement and b) people see the notes
      • ruaok
        should these be shown immediately?
      • CatQuest
        hmm maybe not?
      • reosarevok
        I'm not sure whether we want to write code specifically for one reltype though, it seems like a lot of effort for a small thing
      • CatQuest
        yes
      • ruaok
        I generally think with peer review, even as it stands now, we're probably ok and fakes one will get weeded out.
      • Freso
        I think we should trust autoeditors and allow them to be autoedits/approved.
      • ruaok nods
      • reosarevok
        If there's a simple way to make these votable without extra code, I'd be for that
      • CatQuest
        ffiw: I don't see enough use cases (currently?) to actually implement this now
      • reosarevok
        But if not, I'd say just keep them as they are, and someone can have a search for new uses
      • chirlu doesn’t see a simple way.
      • CatQuest
        given the problems it brings, i mean
      • reosarevok
        (edit search allows that now, right?)
      • Freso
        (Esp. for the case of linking a not-yet-released RG to its crowdfunding page.)
      • reosarevok
        (searching for specific reltypes)
      • "someone" is probably me, I assume :p
      • CatQuest nods.
      • I think it makes sense ideologically for us to implement patronage
      • CatQuest
        this just adds more work for reosarevok honestl
      • reosarevok
        And I suspect it will be perfectly fine, but at the same time I don't want to have to deal with someone angrily writing that some scammer took their money because of us :p
      • CatQuest
        :(
      • reosarevok
        On the other hand, we already link to stores, so it's not that different
      • (someone could link to a dodgy store and we don't check those specifically)
      • So maybe just adding them normally is fine and we're overworrying
      • CatQuest
        thats a point
      • Freso
        reosarevok: +1
      • reosarevok
        Freso: To what part :D
      • Freso
        My original comment on the topic was mostly just a "by-thought".
      • reosarevok
        Ok
      • Freso
        I never meant for it to obstruct the proposal. :)
      • reosarevok
        So: deal with them normally, but do not do anything like prominently display flattr buttons or the like, and revisit if there's any trouble?