#metabrainz

I think it's probably fine to WONTFIX it. If not, someone can reopen it: https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/OTHER-143

how do i vote for a ticket in the new jira thing

and get rid of "open issues" field on for example https://tickets.metabrainz.org/projects/OTHER/i...

CatQuest, click on "Vote for this issue" when viewing an issue.

editing the url doesnt work?

No idea about the latter.

I wish things were where I was used to them. :/

I can't read "allopenissues" right either

うふふふ　：３

Gentlecat, I had a look. Seems mostly like a caching issue to me. Both the recent reviews and Popular reviews use the same macro for showing the gravatar. The only difference I could find is that recent reviews get their data directly from the db (https://github.com/metabrainz/critiquebrainz/bl...) whereas the popular reviews can get it from the cache (which should only

exist for 12 hours ?) (https://github.com/metabrainz/critiquebrainz/bl...).

anshuman73: could i pursuade you to look int ohow hard it would be to use a differnt source for avatars? liek the community.metabrainz.org ones insted for example?

(gravatar isbad)

CatQuest, I believe you say that only because gravatar hashes the email ids ?

I belive i say that because it also means that I can't actually use my avatar because I use different emails for different sites (and if i enabeled gravatar (ie made an account) I'd star seeing a loads of different places theseavatars which shouldn't be anywere unless i wanted thme to be)

That's true..

I don't like the persuasive and pervasive utilisation of gravatar and how they do their thing (ie "hashes") is my second thing

anshuman73, and the hashing allows someone to track a person across sites as long as they use the same e-mail address.

(wich is the reason i use differnt emails :p)

or bogus ones like blup@blip.whatever

Well, I pretty much use the same username everywhere, so it's not like I'm hard to track regardless.

Gentlecat, should we move to completely hashing the user-ids instead of email ids ? ^^

true, and i'm usually cat* or blup, but then it's my conscious *choice*

anshuman73, that's not an option with Gravatar though.

(Unless they've changed.)

I'm in favor of getting rid of the gravatar, just so we can stop having this conversation over and over again.

I really think we should utilize thecommunity avatar thing instead. it woudl be a good use for those!

gravatar is an opt-in option, you don't have to use it

on jira and mb proper :D

+1 @ ruaok

Gentlecat: not really?

yes it is, go to your settings in CB

Freso|laptop, what we currently do is check if a user wants their gravatar or not and if they have saved an email id or not. if either is false, we generate gravatr images based on hashes of their user ids

so no tracking ;)

Ah, alright.

if there is a good alternative for it, feel free to implement the change

I'm brute force opt outing by literally blocking gravatar in request policy, but I stil have a "grvatar" that's syntesized with their whatever based on my email ro something (unless they've changed)

Gentlecat, want me to look into the community avatar

?

+100 t "good alternative!

you are free to do whatever you want

I'll litterally give youchocolte if you do that

Gentlecat, Also, have a look at my previous message of why popular reviews' gravatars may not be working

Gentlecat, ;)

erh chocolate*

\o/

Ha.

what I don't like is that "f either is false, we generate gravatr images based on hashes of their user ids"

I'd want to not have anything instead then. (or pick one to upøoad, or use the community one etc)

no to uploading images.

I don't want to have to store images on our servers.

well, sorry

community avatars though, that's good

can't please everyone

Gentlecat, though will that require us to save images of each letter

yeah, ruaok said it

i don't even care as long as we get rid of gravatar :D

Gentlecat: not everyone, but I can say no. :)

(Jira and Discourse allows uploading avatars to the server.)

jira does?

Freso|laptop: that is fine.

i'mma gonna try this then

(But I guess they're also both in the Google Cloud, so technically not our servers.)

that is not what I mean, Freso|laptop

Google Cloud, is still our responsibility.

ruaok: it was a response to the gravatar thing, not to uploading

aw i couldn't vote on it fast enough

who is $nake ? :D

also holy hell that list is longer than I remember :o

so the decision to turn it off has been already made?

not formally, no

just for the record, I don't see any real discussion, just complaints from one person

general consensus is that we're tired of bickering about it.

seems like it was https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/OTHER-265

Does JIRA cache the gravatars or embed gravatar.com images?

(I probably should just stop caring about those things, but come on..)

because Gravatar's business model does kind of revolve around collecting data when embedded in other websites

whatever we do, just please stop bickering about gravatar!!

Gentlecat, it can be turned on again easily. ruaok said he was in favour of turning it off if it caused the bickering to stop. I agreed and followed up. If we find out we want to keep using it and continue to have people bickering about it every few months, it can be turned on again quite easily.

(Also, I made the ticket exactly so people had somewhere to complain if they feel like it's the wrong decision. So feel free to write a comment on the issue if you feel it should be reverted.)

20 email left in my inbox. woo!

LordSputnik: Am having some issues with attaching client-side hooks to the server rendered React code. I currently have all the editor tabs converted to react, all that's left is to attach js hooks to the react app for the achievements tab. I noticed a controller/achievement.js file that is included in the original jade template but it isn't included in the client build script. After adding it in I ge

t the following client-side error when attaching hooks with ReactDOM.render: Uncaught TypeError: Super expression must either be null or a function, not undefined.

^ rendering from the server works perfectly fine so I suspect it may be something to do with the build script and babel

tldr; I just wanted to ask if there was any reason the achievements.js wasn't included in the build-client script. The achievement form seems to work fine on the live bookbrainz site

huh

well adding achievements was QuoraUK's GSoC project so he also might know about that

Freso|laptop: +1

Woo, and now a Gold waltzes in. \ø/

bitmap: any more thoughts on that job description for the perl hacker?

LordSputnik: Pushed up my code to https://github.com/Arthelon/bookbrainz-site/tre... . Going to continue debugging this tomorrow, could you check it out if you have the time?

sheesh. 30 minutes to just import the VM.

feels bad

support@

Freso|laptop: re: OTHER-37, that was a link at the bottom of jira in the footer. I think it was also in the log in prompt

Freso|laptop: re: OTHER-20, theoretically possible if it's really wanted, but I wouldn't recommend it

legoktm, will you close it as WONTFIX then?

(Considering the amount of traffic on the ticket, I'd say it isn't "really wanted".)

I've also not noticed anyone ask for/about it on IRC or in forums or anywhere before seeing that ticket.

done

also, https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/OTHER-259... uhoh.

legoktm, https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/OTHER-259... is bit more managable. :)

that looks nicer, but I meant the 259 ticket specifically :P I'll look into that once I'm actually awake

Oh.

ruaok: the vm is displaying the home page :)

very nice!

so, next thing you can help me test...

log into the VM. in the home dir is the mb source.

see if you can make some changes. in theory it should pick them up automagically.

ok

to edit a file?

yes

feel free to install whichever editor you'd like

without starting another holy crusade, which is your editor of choice?

atom

I <3 you!

:)

the tricky part is that I am not sure how to accomplish that with this setup

anyone here comfortable with helping gcilou install atom on linux and how to make it appear on the mac desktop?

is that like vegan chocolate?

better than vegan

phew.

I wonder if it would be easier to install atom for mac and edit over ssh

sounds like it. how does one do that?

I found https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-way-to-u...

however, the challenge will be to get sshfs to know where the vagrant host is. hmm

it is on port 2222 of localhost.

gcilou: give the above a shot and see how it goes

from where (inside vagrant or ?)

no, on your mac

oh, wait

this might not be needed

ruaok: why not just use virtualbox shared folders?

because gcilou has been waiting for me for weeks to get this done.

if I have to setup shared folders it will be weeks more