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      • pristine___
        iliekcomputers: why did you close this https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-serv... ?
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      • I mean I was following it, didn't find any closing comment!
      • shivam-kapila
        morning
      • yvanzo
        mo’’in’
      • jmp_music__
        morning!
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      • pristine___
        _lucifer: you about?
      • _lucifer
        yes pristine___
      • pristine___
        I was looking at my recs. I mostly listened to indian artists. In the last week, I listed to a few songs of. Tame Impala. I see that the first page of my top artists playlist is filled with tame Impala songs, meaning these recordings have highest score, as I move to the second, third page of the top artist playlist, I see artists more evenly distributed and more indian artists. A few users have commented on the
      • community post, this also has troubled me for quite some time, the playlist (especially the first page) being centred around a few artists. One is reason I can think of is, LB has a few users who listened to indian songs, so maybe my similar user (based on user-user similarity) is purely based on English songs. That's is why all the song of tame Impala have highest score even though I don't listen to them so
      • frequently.
      • Just a finding, I thought it will good to share with you given you are working on a part of recs now :)
      • _lucifer
        yeah, sure. thanks for sharing
      • the easiest way here seems to limit the number of recordings from an artist on the first page
      • shivam-kapila should check his recs
      • but that is probably a work for troi
      • pristine___
        _lucifer: exactly, I have discussed about this with ruaok
      • We haven't reached on any conclusion though
      • It really looks odd when the first page is centered around only one artist, I guess most of us don't move to the next page.
      • _lucifer: not very critical to solve rn, but a good to have thing.
      • _lucifer
        That's true, most won't go to the next oage
      • yeah, for now the page says tracks you might like so it not very important but when these tracks become a playlist then it'll be
      • shivam-kapila
        I see coldplay........ coldplay aaaand coldplay
      • n I didnt even listen to it last week
      • pristine___
        shivam-kapila:
      • I see `The Chainsmokers & Coldplay` here
      • You can do a look up for you top artist from stats endpoint here
      • Most probably the artists, recordings aren't in the mapping except Coldplay, that is why you have only one artist in the playlist
      • Did you read the community post shivam-kapila ? I am sure it will clear your doubts regarding the nature of playlist, if not let me know, I will add in there, will be helpful for other users too :)
      • > the easiest way here seems to limit the number of recordings from an artist on the first page
      • _lucifer: I was thinking to apply `random` on the recs list and then show on site.
      • shivam-kapila
        pristine___: thx. Will do
      • > _lucifer: I was thinking to apply `random` on the recs list and then show on site.
      • Doesnt sound right. Each time I press next and then previous the recs change
      • But this isnt ideal imo
      • pristine___
        shivam-kapila: do random before showing them on site, and not while you show them on site
      • Is what I mean
      • shivam-kapila
        What if I reload
      • _lucifer
        pristine___: could be a good idea
      • shivam-kapila: i think the idea is to randomize in spark instead of sorting on score so the results seen by the user will be consistent
      • shivam-kapila
        Then we shouldnt show score then
      • As there wont be a reasonable pattern
      • _lucifer
        yes right
      • pristine___: is there any way to see the current queue of requests in request consumer?
      • Mr_Monkey
        Moin!
      • pristine___
        > shivam-kapila: i think the idea is to randomize in spark instead of sorting on score so the results seen by the user will be consistent
      • That _lucifer :)
      • _lucifer: iliekcomputers would know, I have no idea on that :(
      • _lucifer
        np, i have the mapping placed at the right place but i know need to upload it to hdfs somehow
      • pristine___
        Just use the command in spark_manage
      • I linked yesterday.
      • _lucifer
        yeah, i am using that but it is not working due to some disk space issues. i'll free up some space and do that
      • iliekcomputers
      • BrainzBot
        LB-729: Scrobble tracks streamed on ListenBrainz website
      • Mr_Monkey
        Yeah, that's been on the list for a while, hasn't it?
      • Shouldn't be too difficult, especially if we don't have to transform the listens in question in any way.
      • But I can see the increase in priority now that we have recs
      • In your opinion, should the listen be sent by BrainzPlayer as soon as it starts playing, or do we want to wait an arbitrary amount of time before sending it?
      • Something like 10 seconds?
      • shivam-kapila
        It can be set like vlc plugin
      • Half of track duration
      • Or 4 min iirc
      • pristine___
        > In your opinion, should the listen be sent by BrainzPlayer as soon as it starts playing, or do we want to wait an arbitrary amount of time before sending it?
      • Mr_Monkey: arbitrary amount of time.
      • imo
      • Mr_Monkey
        I think Spotify considers a song listened to after 30sec, for reference
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      • iliekcomputers
        pristine___: I've moved the code in the closed pr over to https://github.com/metabrainz/listenbrainz-serv...
      • #1097 just needs some tests and css improvements and it should be good to go.
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      • pristine___
        iliekcomputers: cool. Though a comment would have been great!
      • iliekcomputers
        noted, will try to remember next time. it was wip, i didn't expect anyone to be monitoring it.
      • pristine___
        Thanks! Even if no one is monitoring, I guess a closing comment will be helpful for people passing by, if any. 🌹
      • BrainzGit
        [musicbrainz-server] reosarevok opened pull request #1719 (master…MBS-11136): MBS-11136: Support HTML in attribute descriptions https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve...
      • BrainzBot
        MBS-11136: Support HTML in attribute descriptions https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-11136
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      • ruaok
      • alastairp
        ruaok: what's your punk tag idea?
      • ruaok
        ah, yes thanks.
      • reosarevok
        bitmap, yvanzo: hmm. I was thinking about relationship gid_redirects :p
      • I wanted to get rid of instrument arranger and vocal arranger (there's no reason not to have those just be attributes of arranger)
      • Or well, at least once we merge instruments and vocals
      • Same with performer
      • But should we try and make it so that the old mbids still redirect to the main rel once that happens?
      • STYLE-932 is an already implemented variation of the same situation
      • BrainzBot
        STYLE-932: Widen ‘piano technician’ to ‘[instrument] technician’ https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/STYLE-932
      • reosarevok
        (the previous rel still exists, although deprecated, so there's no need for a redirect *yet*)
      • bitmap
        that'd certainly be cool to have, though I'm not sure where the redirect would matter at present except for documentation
      • reosarevok
        Given this should be a rare occurrence we could just do a redirect in ngnix, but
      • Well, if someone has, say, an old data dump, they could resolve what rel that is equivalent to now
      • yvanzo
        IIUC, the question basically is how to merge relationship types?
      • reosarevok
        (and yeah, see its documentation)
      • yvanzo: pretty much
      • nginx even
      • bitmap
        we could have a small struct in the code first and decide if we want to schema change later I suppose
      • since there will only be a few at most for the forseeable future
      • yvanzo
        +1 as persistance is the main point of having MBIDs.
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      • ruaok
        iliekcomputers: sign in with your meb account.
      • iliekcomputers
        ah
      • got it
      • ruaok
        We just spent 90 minutes brainstorming and came up with a pile of stuff.
      • Fodder for future roadmaps.
      • reosarevok
        Ok, I'll keep in mind for whenever we finally remove some deprecated rels :)
      • ruaok
        Also, do you feel like joining Mr_Monkey alastairp and myself for a hack weekend in Nov to implement playlist support in LB?
      • (playlist brainz but not tlp)