it's always like that at autechre, everytime I've seen them. but this is the first time I've seen it announced and that the bar is closed.
Leftmost
I find myself in a position where putting in the required work to put together a decent application for GSoC would really screw with uni for me. I've got two exams tomorrow and a major conference presentation next week.
As such, I'm going to withdraw my application.
aCiD2
they didn't do a black out when I saw them, but the lights were certainly dimmed, no strobe or anything
warp
nooooooo
Leftmost
But I'm hoping that you would still be willing to work with me on collections (if no one else does so) during the summer.
aCiD2
Leftmost: of course, but I'd say reconsider :)
I think we could make GSoC work given your constraints and that
Leftmost
Well, I'm just concerned that my application isn't sufficient. (It was never intended to be a final draft.)
aCiD2
hm
and that you don't have the time right now to improve it?
Leftmost
Right. I'd really like to improve it, but at this juncture I just have to prioritize school.
aCiD2 understands
aCiD2
I'm starting to focus on my exams now too, as they are just over 2 weeks away
warp
the application is important, but we don't judge these things solely on that.
for example your participation here on irc also counts, etc..
Leftmost: I would appreciate it if you could try to improve it as best as you can given these constraints
Leftmost: so skip screenshots
(screenshots/mockups tend to be time consuming :)
Leftmost
Well, if you think I should leave the application in, I can edit it with some of the things we've talked about. (Scoping up, etc.)
I've got a bit of scheduling done and some thoughts on the ordering/structure of work as well, which I can add.
warp
Leftmost: yes, if your timeconstraints are just for now.. and you're free to work during the normal SOC schedule in the summer months
Leftmost
Yeah. The semester is over in early May and I'm not taking summer courses.
aCiD2
I certainly wouldn't let some time constraints in the application period put you off and withdrawing
warp
Leftmost: please keep it in, improve what you can.
aCiD2
i'll talk to ruaok later tonight and let him know what's up and we'll see what he says
Leftmost
Alright, thanks.
aCiD2
ok, I gotta get off to uni and make it look like I've spent 2 weeks on this dissertation :P
bbl!
warp
lol
good luck aCiD2
Leftmost digs into some graph theory.
warp digs into taglookup.html
aCiD2 digs into his bike pedals
Leftmost
I'll get some of that stuff worked into the application at lunch today.
Reminds me. I need to fix my bike.
warp
hrm, now LWP cannot reach my search server, but curl/wget/browser can.
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xiainx
warp: what would you think about using something like django for the proposal tracking system...?
warp: I'm suggesting that framework, because it's written in Python, and I understand integrating co-ment in isn't that bad on a python framework like Django
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ruaok wonders if anyone is awake
somewhat
ruaok
I know the feeling. I've been hovering in that state for days now.
nikki
I am
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jensl
hi
ruaok
hi
jensl
ruaok: is there anything else you miss or want to be stated more clear in my proposal? you requested a UI mock-up that I added and nothing more, so i am unsure...
ruaok
gimme a sec, but I think your proposal is complete.
jensl
ok
ruaok
jensl: so the only thing I would love for you to add to the proposal is a quick note:
If my mentor would like to have this implemented in pure java and not use jqtouch g<whatevergluelayer> I would agree to do this in java.
or, better yet. adjust your proposal to simply say that you're doing it in java.
that would actually be better.
we're generally disutrustful of those toolkits that generate code.
jensl
ok so you want everything in java, no mobile optimized pages, not even for search etc. where it would be possible?
then we could integrate the pages seemlessly into the java app
ruaok
yes, no mobile pages and a complete native android app with no fancy toolkits.
jensl
ok
then i will throw all the stuff out :)
warp waves
hi warp
ruaok
thanks jensl
jensl
thanks for feedback
ruaok
np. thanks for the nice looking app.
I'm looking forward to going over it with a fine tooth comb on the plane tomorrow.
jensl
have fun :)
we even do not need mobile optimized pages, once finished with android it is not more than 4 weeks work to port it to the iphone (excluding barcode)
one last thing concerning the proposal, before i came up with the idea of mobile optimized pages, someone suggested the idea on the mailing list to deploy the barcode scanning stuff as an openintent, what do you think about this?
ruaok
openintent allows others to initiate the barcode submit process?
aCiD2
ahhh, chilli simmering away
so much for burgers
ruaok
wha happen?
jensl
yes allows other to use the barcode stuff
aCiD2
thought it'd be more fun to make homemade flour tortillas and a chilli
jensl
at least retrieve information, maybe submit (depends what we want)
ruaok hands aCiD2 a tortilla press
ruaok
jensl: that sounds like fun. :)
aCiD2
student tortillas* no rolling pin, i get to press them using 2 plates
ruaok
ah, ghetto tortillas
can you actually buy tortillas in a store?
We have a large section of tortillas here. small, big, medium. flour, corn. lard, no lard. tomato, spinach tortillas
its crazy
aCiD2
yea, they are pretty bad though - and no, not a selection like that here - just 5 different ones maybe
ruaok nods
ruaok
that reminds me, I need to eat several more burritos before I leave.
lest I get withdrawals again.
jensl
ruaok: ok will state it in my prop
ruaok
k
warp
melange is annoying.
jensl
yes definitely, everything has to be ajaxified and the editor destroyed the whole layout of my proposal
ruaok
I know that melange is an ongoing source of frustration. :(
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jdamcd
apparently the gsoc proposal editor adds arbitrary line spacing and formatting even if you specify the layout in html :/
ruaok
yep
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jdamcd
crazy, they should have a gsoc student fix Melange
ruaok
jdamcd: there is a TEAM of students working on melange
jdamcd
ahh :)
philip6137
yes the editor is quite messy.
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warp
xiainx: oh, on django. I'm not that familiar with it, but it's popular enough. Seems fine to me.
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alastairp
django is pretty neat
ruaok nods
ruaok
but like RonR, its has is sweet spot of applications.
alastairp
for sure
I can't find the beginning of the conversation - this is for an soc app?
ruaok
I dunno what we're even talking about...
navap
ruaok: I got my server up and running again. I used a pre-quality collumn commit to import my data and then I pulled from core.git to update.
ruaok
ok, good.
navap
But now when I browse a release group page I get quality column errors, but test doesn't have those errors.
alastairp
ruaok: heh, right
I just see a comment saying "django, yay!"
ruaok
alter table release add column integer quality;
ruaok thinks that should work.
navap
ERROR: type "quality" does not exist
ruaok
feh.
swap integer and quality
navap
woohoo! Problem solved!
ruaok
:-)
navap
iarp: See above, you probably want to do this too
ruaok
next person that comes in with this problem would you please guide them through this?
navap
heh yeah
iarp: You'll need to run `./admin/psql READWRITE` to type that in by the way.
warp
ruaok: I had trouble importing the database too, earlier this week.
(I ended up just doing a checkout from february with the dump from january, because that seemed 'known good' to me :)
ruaok
smart.
yeah, the quality commit on master is what kills it.
sadly I don't have time to do another import.
maybe I'll do one monday.
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