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      • nikki
        what happens when someone asks for their account to be deleted? do we just rename it, or do we do stuff like delete their subscriptions as well?
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      • warp
        nikki: I'm not sure. ruaok does that sort of thing.
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      • warp
        also
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      • warp
        hello!
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      • nikki
        moin moin!
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      • djce
        nikki: I think in the past we've said: you clear out as much data as you can, including deleting your subs and stuff; we'll remove your email address, zap the password, and rename the account to something like "deleted-123456".
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      • djce
        something like that.
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      • nikki
        ah
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      • nikki
        I was wondering 'cause I came across http://musicbrainz.org/user/tags/?userid=193948
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      • nikki
        which is just weird, deleted users shouldn't have tags
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      • djce
        deleted users shouldn't exist at all :-)
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      • nikki
        well I can understand them being there for stuff like edits
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      • djce
        but, having said all that: users these days have a lot more data attached to them than they used to
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      • djce
        so asking them to remove their own data may be inappropriate / impractical these days.
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      • nikki nods
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      • djce
        IIRC I've only "deleted" about 4 users in 8 years or so.
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      • ocharles
        ruaok: didn't make it to the office today, will send timesheets tomorrow
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      • ruaok
        k
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      • enjayhch waves
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      • enjayhch
        came home at a sane time today
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      • ocharles
        hey enjayhch
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      • ocharles
        if 8pm is sane for you, ok :P
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      • enjayhch
        hello ocharles! What happened to Acid2?
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      • enjayhch
        ocharles: left at 5.45 and home at about 6.30
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      • kurtjx
        huwha
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      • ruaok
        hi enjayhch
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      • ruaok
        <BANG>
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      • MBChatLogger
        MBChatLogger has changed the topic to: http://musicbrainz.org/#devel
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      • ruaok
        welcome everyone!
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      • ruaok
        please forgive me for not tracking too well. this head-cold isn't letting up just yet. :-(
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      • warp
        hello!
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      • kurtjx
        hi!
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      • ruaok
        enjayhch: so, did the BBC have an official rebuttal to: http://metabrainz.org/about/customers.html ?
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      • ruaok snickers
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      • enjayhch
        ruaok: because of the page load time?
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      • ruaok
        no, the "stylized BBC logo".
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      • enjayhch
        not heard anything more about it
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      • ruaok
        never mind the page load time.
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      • ruaok
        I wondered what UK parody laws are like. oh well, we'll see who gets their panties in a bunch next.
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      • ruaok
        onward. reviews.
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      • ruaok
        I think this will go quick. last week was a mixed bag in the MB world.
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      • ruaok
        ocharles: you first?
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      • ocharles
        Sure
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      • ocharles
        I spent the week in SLO with ruaok, and had a great time hacking away
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      • ocharles
        i spent just about the whole week working on improving the edit migration script
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      • ocharles
        we now have this *done* and it runs in an appropriate time
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      • ruaok
        with great results at that.
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      • ocharles
        down from 12h to about 2h at most
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      • ruaok
        well, I tried to run the script from the beginning and was rewarded with pages of errors.
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      • ruaok
        some more cleanup work is required. :)
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      • ocharles
        sadly, this sets me another week behind schedule, which is hopefully not too much of a problem because i'm still ahead of warp :)
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      • ocharles
        ruaok: ok, we'll have to have a look at that
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      • ocharles
        but it was running ok on mb.homeip.net when I left
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      • ruaok
        then the branch was out of date...
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      • ruaok
        I saw the massive wall of errors and left it.
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      • ruaok
        can you please look after that after the meeting?
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      • ruaok
        but, overall the script should run in a reasonable amount of time now.
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      • ruaok
        the thing that was slow?
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      • ruaok
        Moose object creation.
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      • ruaok
        not a problem when you have a handful of them in a page request.
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      • ruaok
        but when you need to create 10M of them in a short period of time, its really bogs down. :(
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      • ocharles
        indeed
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      • ruaok
        ocharles: can you also please look at the backlog of reviews?
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      • ruaok
        I know there are a bunch of shipits that need committing.
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      • ruaok
        warp: how was your week?
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      • warp
        not very good
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      • ocharles
        ah yea, well I should be in the office tomorrow, so i'll get them done first
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      • ocharles
        :(
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      • ruaok
        ocharles: ok.
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      • ruaok
        warp: alas. :-(
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      • warp
        I had some issues crop up unrelated to musicbrainz which has caused me to not work from wednesday till today.
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      • warp
        but that is mostly resolved
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      • ruaok
        anything interesting mon/tue?
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      • warp
        so I'll be back at work tomorrow
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      • ruaok
        good. :)
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      • ruaok
        ok.
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      • warp
        I was working on lazy loading in the release editor as some of you may remember
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      • ruaok nods
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      • warp
        most of that is done, there were still some issues with adding a new disc and such.
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      • warp
        haven't tested it at all with a new release (so there's nothing to lazy load)
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      • warp
        so, hopefully a good day of hacking and it's on code review.
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      • ruaok
        good. lets hope for that tomorrow.
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      • ruaok
        as for me, ocharles mostly covered it.
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      • ruaok
        we did some hacking on the script, which is in good shape now.
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      • ruaok
        we also did some team building (read: drink beer)
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      • warp
        :D
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      • ruaok
        it was nice to actually fart around with ocharles in the same room and work on some optimization stuff.
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      • ruaok
        next year it will be warp's turn. :)
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      • warp
        \o/
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      • ruaok
        but on the last day ocharles was here I came down with a cold, which was getting better over the weekend.
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      • ocharles
        i luckily seemed to have escaped that... so far
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      • ruaok
        but today its not doing so well. I'll probably just head back to bed after this meeting.
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      • ruaok
        ocharles: esp after flying for so long. good job.
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      • ruaok
        enjayhch: anything new from the BBC?
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      • ocharles
        well now my body clock is just... gone, but at least it's no illness
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      • ocharles touches wood
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      • ruaok
        jetlag is tons of fun. :)
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      • enjayhch
        I have been working on a MusicBrainz tagger for video clips
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      • enjayhch
        for use inside the BBC
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      • warp
        enjayhch: woah, sounds cool
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      • enjayhch
        talks to an internal database that contains prgramme information, called PIPs
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      • enjayhch
        that has a RESTful API
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      • enjayhch
        it allows Content Producers to put video clips on artist pages
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      • ruaok
        +1
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      • enjayhch
        eg
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      • enjayhch
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      • enjayhch
        (for those of you in the uk)
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      • ruaok
        (not available in your area) :-(
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      • enjayhch
        should allow use to display artists on clip pages too
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      • enjayhch
        that is all from me I think
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      • ruaok
        sounds promising. :)
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      • ruaok
        kurtjx: anything from you?
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      • kurtjx
        well jet lag
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      • kurtjx
        i've done a couple blog posts
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      • ruaok
        lol.
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      • ruaok
        oh yes!
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      • kurtjx
        realized one is a horrible mistake
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      • ruaok
        good.
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      • kurtjx
        i grossly over estimated number of rdfa pages
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      • ruaok
        117B is way off.
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      • ruaok
        its just the sum of all entities.
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      • kurtjx
        yest it's like 12m
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      • ruaok
        that sounds right.
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      • kurtjx
        right no multiply
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      • kurtjx
        so gonna fix that
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      • ruaok
        but, the 117B number hit the tweetverse. heh.
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      • kurtjx
        yes afraid it may have already
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      • kurtjx
        i talked thru it with a guy a qmul
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      • kurtjx
        and we were both like
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      • ruaok
        well, its only an order of magnitude. not a big deal, right?
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      • kurtjx
        hehe
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      • kurtjx
        like two orders really
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      • ruaok
        oh yeah. :)