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                    nikki
                what happens when someone asks for their account to be deleted? do we just rename it, or do we do stuff like delete their subscriptions as well?
     
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                    warp
                nikki: I'm not sure.  ruaok does that sort of thing.
     
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                    warp
                also
     
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                    warp
                hello!
     
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                    nikki
                moin moin!
     
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                    djce
                nikki: I think in the past we've said: you clear out as much data as you can, including deleting your subs and stuff; we'll remove your email address, zap the password, and rename the account to something like "deleted-123456".
     
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                    djce
                something like that.
     
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                    nikki
                ah
     
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                    nikki
                
     
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                    nikki
                which is just weird, deleted users shouldn't have tags
     
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                    djce
                deleted users shouldn't exist at all :-)
     
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                    nikki
                well I can understand them being there for stuff like edits
     
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                    djce
                but, having said all that: users these days have a lot more data attached to them than they used to
     
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                    djce
                so asking them to remove their own data may be inappropriate / impractical these days.
     
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        nikki nods
     
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                    djce
                IIRC I've only "deleted" about 4 users in 8 years or so.
     
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                    ocharles
                ruaok: didn't make it to the office today, will send timesheets tomorrow
     
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                    ruaok
                k
     
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        enjayhch waves
     
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                    enjayhch
                came home at a sane time today
     
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                    ocharles
                hey enjayhch
     
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                    ocharles
                if 8pm is sane for you, ok :P
     
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                    enjayhch
                hello ocharles! What happened to Acid2?
     
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                    enjayhch
                ocharles: left at 5.45 and home at about 6.30
     
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                    kurtjx
                huwha
     
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                    ruaok
                hi enjayhch
     
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                    ruaok
                <BANG>
     
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                    MBChatLogger
                
     
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                    ruaok
                welcome everyone!
     
      2010-11-01 30529, 2010 
    
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                    ruaok
                please forgive me for not tracking too well. this head-cold isn't letting up just yet. :-(
     
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                    warp
                hello!
     
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                    kurtjx
                hi!
     
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                    ruaok
                
     
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        ruaok snickers
     
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                    enjayhch
                ruaok: because of the page load time?
     
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                    ruaok
                no, the "stylized BBC logo".
     
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                    enjayhch
                not heard anything more about it
     
      2010-11-01 30558, 2010 
    
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                    ruaok
                never mind the page load time.
     
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                    ruaok
                I wondered what UK parody laws are like. oh well, we'll see who gets their panties in a bunch next.
     
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                    ruaok
                onward. reviews.
     
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                    ruaok
                I think this will go quick. last week was a mixed bag in the MB world.
     
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                    ruaok
                ocharles: you first?
     
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                    ocharles
                Sure
     
      2010-11-01 30553, 2010 
    
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                    ocharles
                I spent the week in SLO with ruaok, and had a great time hacking away
     
      2010-11-01 30503, 2010 
    
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                    ocharles
                i spent just about the whole week working on improving the edit migration script
     
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                    ocharles
                we now have this *done* and it runs in an appropriate time
     
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                    ruaok
                with great results at that.
     
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                    ocharles
                down from 12h to about 2h at most
     
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                    ruaok
                well, I tried to run the script from the beginning and was rewarded with pages of errors.
     
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                    ruaok
                some more cleanup work is required. :)
     
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                    ocharles
                sadly, this sets me another week behind schedule, which is hopefully not too much of a problem because i'm still ahead of warp :)
     
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                    ocharles
                ruaok: ok, we'll have to have a look at that
     
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                    ocharles
                
     
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                    ruaok
                then the branch was out of date...
     
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                    ruaok
                I saw the massive wall of errors and left it.
     
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                    ruaok
                can you please look after that after the meeting?
     
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                    ruaok
                but, overall the script should run in a reasonable amount of time now.
     
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                    ruaok
                the thing that was slow?
     
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                    ruaok
                Moose object creation.
     
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                    ruaok
                not a problem when you have a handful of them in a page request.
     
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                    ruaok
                but when you need to create 10M of them in a short period of time, its really bogs down. :(
     
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                    ocharles
                indeed
     
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                    ruaok
                ocharles: can you also please look at the backlog of reviews?
     
      2010-11-01 30515, 2010 
    
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                    ruaok
                I know there are a bunch of shipits that need committing.
     
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                    ruaok
                warp: how was your week?
     
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                    warp
                not very good
     
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                    ocharles
                ah yea, well I should be in the office tomorrow, so i'll get them done first
     
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                    ocharles
                :(
     
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                    ruaok
                ocharles: ok.
     
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                    ruaok
                warp: alas. :-(
     
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                    warp
                I had some issues crop up unrelated to musicbrainz which has caused me to not work from wednesday till today.
     
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                    warp
                but that is mostly resolved
     
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                    ruaok
                anything interesting mon/tue?
     
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                    warp
                so I'll be back at work tomorrow
     
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                    ruaok
                good. :)
     
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                    ruaok
                ok.
     
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                    warp
                I was working on lazy loading in the release editor as some of you may remember
     
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        ruaok nods
     
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                    warp
                most of that is done, there were still some issues with adding a new disc and such.
     
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                    warp
                haven't tested it at all with a new release (so there's nothing to lazy load)
     
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                    warp
                so, hopefully a good day of hacking and it's on code review.
     
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                    ruaok
                good. lets hope for that tomorrow.
     
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                    ruaok
                as for me, ocharles mostly covered it.
     
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                    ruaok
                we did some hacking on the script, which is in good shape now.
     
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                    ruaok
                we also did some team building (read: drink beer)
     
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                    warp
                :D
     
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                    ruaok
                it was nice to actually fart around with ocharles in the same room and work on some optimization stuff.
     
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                    ruaok
                next year it will be warp's turn. :)
     
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                    warp
                \o/
     
      2010-11-01 30523, 2010 
    
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                    ruaok
                but on the last day ocharles was here I came down with a cold, which was getting better over the weekend.
     
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                    ocharles
                i luckily seemed to have escaped that... so far
     
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                    ruaok
                but today its not doing so well. I'll probably just head back to bed after this meeting.
     
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                    ruaok
                ocharles: esp after flying for so long. good job.
     
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                    ruaok
                enjayhch: anything new from the BBC?
     
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                    ocharles
                well now my body clock is just... gone, but at least it's no illness
     
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                    ruaok
                jetlag is tons of fun. :)
     
      2010-11-01 30538, 2010 
    
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                    enjayhch
                I have been working on a MusicBrainz tagger for video clips
     
      2010-11-01 30552, 2010 
    
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                    enjayhch
                for use inside the BBC
     
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                    warp
                enjayhch: woah, sounds cool
     
      2010-11-01 30510, 2010 
    
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                    enjayhch
                talks to an internal database that contains prgramme information, called PIPs
     
      2010-11-01 30517, 2010 
    
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                    enjayhch
                that has a RESTful API
     
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                    enjayhch
                it allows Content Producers to put video clips on artist pages
     
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                    ruaok
                +1
     
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                    enjayhch
                eg
     
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                    enjayhch
                
     
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                    enjayhch
                (for those of you in the uk)
     
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                    ruaok
                (not available in your area) :-(
     
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                    enjayhch
                should allow use to display artists on clip pages too
     
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                    enjayhch
                that is all from me I think
     
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                    ruaok
                sounds promising. :)
     
      2010-11-01 30506, 2010 
    
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                    ruaok
                kurtjx: anything from you?
     
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                    kurtjx
                well jet lag
     
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                    kurtjx
                i've done a couple blog posts
     
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                    ruaok
                lol.
     
      2010-11-01 30526, 2010 
    
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                    ruaok
                oh yes!
     
      2010-11-01 30531, 2010 
    
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                    kurtjx
                realized one is a horrible mistake
     
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                    ruaok
                good.
     
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                    kurtjx
                i grossly over estimated number of rdfa pages
     
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                    ruaok
                117B is way off.
     
      2010-11-01 30547, 2010 
    
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                    ruaok
                its just the sum of all entities.
     
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                    kurtjx
                yest it's like 12m
     
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                    ruaok
                that sounds right.
     
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                    kurtjx
                right no multiply
     
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                    kurtjx
                so gonna fix that
     
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                    ruaok
                but, the 117B number hit the tweetverse. heh.
     
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                    kurtjx
                yes afraid it may have already
     
      2010-11-01 30531, 2010 
    
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                    kurtjx
                i talked thru it with a guy a qmul
     
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                    kurtjx
                and we were both like
     
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                    ruaok
                well, its only an order of magnitude. not a big deal, right?
     
      2010-11-01 30539, 2010 
    
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                    kurtjx
                hehe
     
      2010-11-01 30553, 2010 
    
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                    kurtjx
                like two orders really
     
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                    ruaok
                oh yeah. :)