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                    navap
                Are we using google analytics now?
     
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                    reosarevok
                We're using COVERS
     
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                    reosarevok
                :D
     
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                    navap
                yay, there are "at least" 345 add cover art edits :)
     
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                    navap
                First page is all reosarevok
     
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                    reosarevok
                lol
     
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                    reosarevok
                nikki, y u not add covers
     
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                    nikki
                partly because pages aren't loading properly
     
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                    nikki
                hard to add covers without a form to upload them :/
     
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                    navap
                So hang on, we've finally released the CAA, yet the only mention of it in the release notes is "We’ve also improved cover art support slightly." ???
     
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                    reosarevok
                Yeah
     
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                    navap
                Are we still trying to keep things hush hush?
     
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                    reosarevok
                We're not advertising it
     
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                    reosarevok
                At least
     
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                    reosarevok
                :p
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                hawke_1: there are CAA stats, incidentally, although I realize they may not be in statistics/view.js
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                heh, no, I guess not
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                but there's still 
http://musicbrainz.org/statistics/dataset/count.c…  and also count.coverart.type and count.release.status.<status>.has_coverart and count.release.type.<type>.has_coverart and count.release.format.<format>.has_coverart and count.coverart.per_release.<1-9>images and count.release.has_caa
 
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                    ruaok
                feh. its been at 254 for an hour now.
     
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                    ruaok
                I suspect that reosarevok wussed out and went to sleep.
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                ruaok: it only updates daily :)
     
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                    reosarevok
                :p
     
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                    ruaok
                ah. :)
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                unless you're looking somewhere that doesn't
     
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                    ruaok
                oh hai reosarevok
     
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                    reosarevok
                I'm still uploading ugly rap demo covers :p
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                so that's where it was at midnight UTC, we'll see where it ends up tomorrow :)
     
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                    reosarevok
                
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                hah
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                incidentally, I wonder if the archive provides a "download all in a given identifier" option
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                
     
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                    ruaok
                at 637 now
     
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                    ruaok
                :-)
     
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                    ruaok
                we're going to easily add a 1000 covers in our first day.
     
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                    ruaok
                only a hundred days to go!
     
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                    hawke_1
                why 100?
     
      2012-05-01 12203, 2012 
    
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                    hawke_1
                ruaok: Think it’s better to focus on covers only at first, or on complete artwork for entire releases?
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                hawke_1: I think you should upload everything you have :P
     
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                    hawke_1
                ianmcorvidae: Well, that’s the idea.
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                but front covers are probably what'll get used most; I'd do things in whatever order is best for your own organization
     
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                    ruaok
                I would think that covers only might be best for getting traction
     
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                    hawke_1
                ianmcorvidae: but starting with scanning that’s “nothing”
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                yeah
     
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                    hawke_1
                So on the one hand i want to scan everything while I have a release handy
     
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                    ruaok
                and 100k images is my random metric for having a non-trivial amount of images.
     
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        ianmcorvidae should write a jamendo cross-upload bot
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                (also bandcamp)
     
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                    reosarevok
                ianmcorvidae: can you start with one to import all the currently linked archive pics?
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                heh
     
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                    reosarevok
                It feels silly to move them from the archive to the archive :p
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                I should probably work on i18n if anything :P
     
      2012-05-01 12225, 2012 
    
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                    hawke_1
                but I imagine getting as many covers as possible is also important…so…
     
      2012-05-01 12227, 2012 
    
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                    ianmcorvidae
                also, all of jamendo is on the archive, so it's possible that would also be archive -> other part of the archive :P
     
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                    reosarevok
                Oh, ruaok
     
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                    reosarevok
                Someone has proposed allowing wikimedia commons for lyrics
     
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                    reosarevok
                (which makes sense for classical stuff + poems)
     
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                    reosarevok
                Any problem with that?
     
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                    ruaok
                do they use CC licenses for their stuff?
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                it was wikisource, I think, actually
     
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                    reosarevok
                Oh, yeah
     
      2012-05-01 12257, 2012 
    
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                    reosarevok
                Wikisource
     
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                    reosarevok
                anyway, it's mostly PD  IIRC
     
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                    ruaok
                ah. send me a reminder. I need to look at it more closely
     
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                    reosarevok
                Mail sent
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                looks like it's by-sa by default
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                incidentally
     
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                    adhawkins
                Anyone help me get the new server running?
     
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                    adhawkins
                I've run perl Makefile.PL and then make
     
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                    adhawkins
                (Just running again to make sure there is nothing new)
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                you probaly want to use carton
     
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                    adhawkins
                Then when I run up the server it's saying it's missing an Amazon S3 module. But I saw that install when I ran the make
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                probably*
     
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                    adhawkins
                Carton to do the install?
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                for perl dependencies, yes
     
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                    adhawkins
                Ok, what's the magic words? :)
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                well, once you have carton itself installed (cpan will do), it's 'carton install --deployment' from the root directory of the server
     
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                    adhawkins
                Ok, I'll try that.
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                that puts everything into <server root>/local
     
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                    adhawkins
                It's worked in the past, just not working with the latest update
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                and then you can run the server, and associated scripts, using 'carton exec -- <whatever>'
     
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                    adhawkins
                I'll let this make finish first
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                that's reasonable :)
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                I believe current INSTALL has carton-based instructions, also
     
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                    adhawkins
                Oh ok, I'll take a look
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                
     
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                    reosarevok
                ianmcorvidae, I am too asleep to think
     
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                    reosarevok
                Can you update the page and I can transclude?
     
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                    reosarevok
                (pretty please?)
     
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                    adhawkins
                Carton install taking a while!
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                adhawkins: it does that, heh
     
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                    adhawkins
                :)
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                reosarevok: I just deleted the note about test.mb, it probably needs more review but for now that'll do
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                oh, heh, that page isn't even transcluded
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                (well, in the transclusion table, that is)
     
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                    reosarevok
                Oh, much better
     
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                    reosarevok
                huh
     
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                    reosarevok
                The doc hasn't changed
     
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                    reosarevok
                I wonder if it checks for changes on the hour or what
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                it's cached for some amount of time
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                I forget exactly how long
     
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                    adhawkins
                Should I expect any output from the carton install?
     
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                    adhawkins
                This is all I have at the moment:
     
      2012-05-01 12238, 2012 
    
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                    adhawkins
                Installing modules using carton.lock (deployment mode)
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                it'll eventually output things, it may just be really slow
     
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                    adhawkins
                Ok. This is a VM running on an Atom box, so hardly cutting edge in terms of speed :)
     
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                    adhawkins
                Yay, getting some output now
     
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                    adhawkins
                Will this duplicate the installs of stuff I already have? Or just install new stuff?
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                not sure; I think probably duplicate, actually, since it's designed to create a self-contained environment
     
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                    adhawkins
                Ah, it's now started saying 'You have...' so I assume it'd not going to duplicate
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                ah, okay
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                never mind then
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                cool :)
     
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                    adhawkins
                Yay, it's filled the disk.
     
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                    adhawkins
                Joy
     
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                    adhawkins
                Still failing ianmcorvidae
     
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                    adhawkins
                BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at app.psgi line 21.
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                hm, I guess Net::CoverArtArchive didn't get added to the requirements
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                if you do 'carton install Net::CoverArtArchive' it should install it
     
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                    adhawkins
                Trying now
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                it's possible that the CAA release today broke devel servers, heh
     
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                    adhawkins
                Installing modules failed
     
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                    adhawkins
                Installing modules failed
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                hm
     
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                    adhawkins
                Hm indeed :)
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                I think this may be beyond my expertise then -- you might have luck if you check out a pre-CAA revision
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                or wait for ocharles to get here so he can tell you how to install that module properly