#musicbrainz-devel

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      • navap
        Are we using google analytics now?
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      • reosarevok
        We're using COVERS
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      • reosarevok
        :D
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      • navap
        yay, there are "at least" 345 add cover art edits :)
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      • navap
        First page is all reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        lol
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      • reosarevok
        nikki, y u not add covers
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      • nikki
        partly because pages aren't loading properly
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      • nikki
        hard to add covers without a form to upload them :/
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      • navap
        So hang on, we've finally released the CAA, yet the only mention of it in the release notes is "We’ve also improved cover art support slightly." ???
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      • reosarevok
        Yeah
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      • navap
        Are we still trying to keep things hush hush?
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      • reosarevok
        We're not advertising it
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      • reosarevok
        At least
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      • reosarevok
        :p
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      • ianmcorvidae
        hawke_1: there are CAA stats, incidentally, although I realize they may not be in statistics/view.js
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      • ianmcorvidae
        heh, no, I guess not
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      • ianmcorvidae
        but there's still http://musicbrainz.org/statistics/dataset/count.c… and also count.coverart.type and count.release.status.<status>.has_coverart and count.release.type.<type>.has_coverart and count.release.format.<format>.has_coverart and count.coverart.per_release.<1-9>images and count.release.has_caa
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      • ruaok
        feh. its been at 254 for an hour now.
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      • ruaok
        I suspect that reosarevok wussed out and went to sleep.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        ruaok: it only updates daily :)
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      • reosarevok
        :p
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      • ruaok
        ah. :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        unless you're looking somewhere that doesn't
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      • ruaok
        oh hai reosarevok
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      • reosarevok
        I'm still uploading ugly rap demo covers :p
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      • ianmcorvidae
        so that's where it was at midnight UTC, we'll see where it ends up tomorrow :)
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      • reosarevok
        I also added what is clearly the best cover we'll get today http://musicbrainz.org/release/91e2ae47-d0e7-434d…
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      • ianmcorvidae
        hah
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      • ianmcorvidae
        incidentally, I wonder if the archive provides a "download all in a given identifier" option
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      • ianmcorvidae
        http://archive.org/details/mbid-5472f28f-30a8-4c2… seems to suggest no, but that'd be really useful
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      • ruaok
        at 637 now
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      • ruaok
        :-)
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      • ruaok
        we're going to easily add a 1000 covers in our first day.
      • 2012-05-01 12234, 2012

      • ruaok
        only a hundred days to go!
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      • ruaok runs
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      • hawke_1
        why 100?
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      • hawke_1
        ruaok: Think it’s better to focus on covers only at first, or on complete artwork for entire releases?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        hawke_1: I think you should upload everything you have :P
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      • hawke_1
        ianmcorvidae: Well, that’s the idea.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        but front covers are probably what'll get used most; I'd do things in whatever order is best for your own organization
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      • ruaok
        I would think that covers only might be best for getting traction
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      • hawke_1
        ianmcorvidae: but starting with scanning that’s “nothing”
      • 2012-05-01 12259, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah
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      • hawke_1
        So on the one hand i want to scan everything while I have a release handy
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      • ruaok
        and 100k images is my random metric for having a non-trivial amount of images.
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      • ianmcorvidae should write a jamendo cross-upload bot
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      • ianmcorvidae
        (also bandcamp)
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      • reosarevok
        ianmcorvidae: can you start with one to import all the currently linked archive pics?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        heh
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      • reosarevok
        It feels silly to move them from the archive to the archive :p
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I should probably work on i18n if anything :P
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      • hawke_1
        but I imagine getting as many covers as possible is also important…so…
      • 2012-05-01 12227, 2012

      • ianmcorvidae
        also, all of jamendo is on the archive, so it's possible that would also be archive -> other part of the archive :P
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      • reosarevok
        Oh, ruaok
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      • ruaok runs faster
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      • reosarevok
        Someone has proposed allowing wikimedia commons for lyrics
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      • reosarevok
        (which makes sense for classical stuff + poems)
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      • reosarevok
        Any problem with that?
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      • ruaok
        do they use CC licenses for their stuff?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        it was wikisource, I think, actually
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      • reosarevok
        Oh, yeah
      • 2012-05-01 12257, 2012

      • reosarevok
        Wikisource
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      • reosarevok
        anyway, it's mostly PD IIRC
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      • ruaok
        ah. send me a reminder. I need to look at it more closely
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      • reosarevok
        Mail sent
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      • ianmcorvidae
        looks like it's by-sa by default
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      • ianmcorvidae
        incidentally
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      • adhawkins
        Anyone help me get the new server running?
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      • adhawkins
        I've run perl Makefile.PL and then make
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      • adhawkins
        (Just running again to make sure there is nothing new)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        you probaly want to use carton
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      • adhawkins
        Then when I run up the server it's saying it's missing an Amazon S3 module. But I saw that install when I ran the make
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      • ianmcorvidae
        probably*
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      • adhawkins
        Carton to do the install?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        for perl dependencies, yes
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      • adhawkins
        Ok, what's the magic words? :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        well, once you have carton itself installed (cpan will do), it's 'carton install --deployment' from the root directory of the server
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      • adhawkins
        Ok, I'll try that.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        that puts everything into <server root>/local
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      • adhawkins
        It's worked in the past, just not working with the latest update
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      • ianmcorvidae
        and then you can run the server, and associated scripts, using 'carton exec -- <whatever>'
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      • adhawkins
        I'll let this make finish first
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      • ianmcorvidae
        that's reasonable :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I believe current INSTALL has carton-based instructions, also
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      • adhawkins
        Oh ok, I'll take a look
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      • ianmcorvidae
        transcluders/wiki editors/probably reosarevok: http://musicbrainz.org/doc/How_to_Add_Cover_Art seems out of date, given it says only on test.mb
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      • reosarevok
        ianmcorvidae, I am too asleep to think
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      • reosarevok
        Can you update the page and I can transclude?
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      • reosarevok
        (pretty please?)
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      • adhawkins
        Carton install taking a while!
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      • ianmcorvidae
        adhawkins: it does that, heh
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      • adhawkins
        :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        reosarevok: I just deleted the note about test.mb, it probably needs more review but for now that'll do
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      • ianmcorvidae
        oh, heh, that page isn't even transcluded
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      • ianmcorvidae
        (well, in the transclusion table, that is)
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      • reosarevok
        Oh, much better
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      • reosarevok
        huh
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      • reosarevok
        The doc hasn't changed
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      • reosarevok
        I wonder if it checks for changes on the hour or what
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      • ianmcorvidae
        it's cached for some amount of time
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I forget exactly how long
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      • adhawkins
        Should I expect any output from the carton install?
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      • adhawkins
        This is all I have at the moment:
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      • adhawkins
        Installing modules using carton.lock (deployment mode)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        it'll eventually output things, it may just be really slow
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      • adhawkins
        Ok. This is a VM running on an Atom box, so hardly cutting edge in terms of speed :)
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      • adhawkins
        Yay, getting some output now
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      • adhawkins
        Will this duplicate the installs of stuff I already have? Or just install new stuff?
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      • ianmcorvidae
        not sure; I think probably duplicate, actually, since it's designed to create a self-contained environment
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      • adhawkins
        Ah, it's now started saying 'You have...' so I assume it'd not going to duplicate
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      • ianmcorvidae
        ah, okay
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      • ianmcorvidae
        never mind then
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      • ianmcorvidae
        cool :)
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      • adhawkins
        Yay, it's filled the disk.
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      • adhawkins
        Joy
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      • adhawkins
        Still failing ianmcorvidae
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      • adhawkins
        BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at app.psgi line 21.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        hm, I guess Net::CoverArtArchive didn't get added to the requirements
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      • ianmcorvidae
        if you do 'carton install Net::CoverArtArchive' it should install it
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      • adhawkins
        Trying now
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      • ianmcorvidae
        it's possible that the CAA release today broke devel servers, heh
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      • adhawkins
        Installing modules failed
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      • adhawkins
        Installing modules failed
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      • ianmcorvidae
        hm
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      • adhawkins
        Hm indeed :)
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      • ianmcorvidae
        I think this may be beyond my expertise then -- you might have luck if you check out a pre-CAA revision
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      • ianmcorvidae
        or wait for ocharles to get here so he can tell you how to install that module properly