#musicbrainz-devel

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      • ocharles
        yea, juno download has it cheaper, so i'll get it there
      • warp
        hm, seems too cheerful for the "dirty/heavy dubstep/grime" description juno files it under.
      • ocharles
        heh
      • yes, i wouldn't put it there
      • beatport calling it glitch hop seemed fine
      • warp
        :)
      • ocharles puts all of todays math work aside
      • ocharles
        now I hopefully have a chance of passing the assignment due wednesday :)
      • warp goes back to dutch hardcore techno
      • ianmcorvidae
        heh, genres are hard
      • it's like a flashback to last weekend!
      • Freso
        :p
      • reosarevok
        But with less chocolate :(
      • Freso
        Can I mark MBS-5523 as closed?
      • AFAICT, it's working on mb.o.
      • ("Add missing "url" in JSON WS url-rels output.")
      • Ah well. I went and did it.
      • ianmcorvidae
        I imagine someone forgot to set the proper fix version and mark it as in beta testing
      • probably me
      • so yes, close it, set the fix version to 11-12
      • though I'll just get the fix version
      • unless it's done
      • it is!
      • and it's actually marked as 11-14, heh
      • Freso
        :)
      • Isn't that the one it was supposed to be marked as?
      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, that's correct
      • Freso
        Oh, "set the fix version to 11-12".
      • ianmcorvidae
        it just used to be 11-12, since that was when that release was originally happening
      • Freso
        Yeah.
      • That wasn't an option. ;)
      • ianmcorvidae
        exactly :P
      • nikki prods beta for being so slow
      • MBJenkins
        Project musicbrainz-data build #38: SUCCESS in 2 min 18 sec: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-data/38/
      • ollie: Added correct Bounded/enumFrom for Vote/EditStatus
      • Freso
        Is VirtualBox generally the recommended virtualisation thing to use these days? I don't want to use VMware, and I'm not exactly sure how QEMU is the similar/different - and I don't know of other virtualisation stuff. :)
      • ianmcorvidae
        KVM is another at some level
      • and the one I've heard recommended most highly; qemu is a bit small, virtualbox is oracle and has weird issues
      • libvirt might be a thing related to kvm? unsure
      • kepstin does something with something in that vein
      • which was of course exceptionally vague, but :P
      • MBJenkins
        ollie: Rewrote relationship stuff to provide better compile warnings
      • ocharles
        Freso: "it depends'
      • mostly on what you're doing
      • VirtualBox is great consumer level virtualization, but I'm not sure it's suited for running something in a server
      • warp
        if you have a bunch of servers which need to run a bunch of vms, probably openvz or xen are more appropriate.
      • ianmcorvidae
        yeah, xen's pretty nice if you set it up right
      • server-wise
      • be careful though, it's a huge headache if you don't research options carefully
      • Freso
        I'm just on the "consumer level". :)
      • ianmcorvidae
        project at my college vs. hoser (here) is night and day XD
      • warp
        the most impressive thing with openvz is that you can migrate a running vm to a different physical machine with no downtime.
      • MBJenkins
        ollie: Change Data.Relationship to be entirely endpoint-type independent
      • Freso
        So probably either VirtalBox or QEMU/KVM.
      • warp
        I don't know if any other virtualization environments can do that.
      • (some quick wikipedia'ing shows that that is more common nowadays, and apparently supported by xen, virtualbox and a bunch more)
      • Freso
        :)
      • luks
        vmware can do that, of course :)
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      • Freso
        504'ing on beta! \o/
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      • 504'ing here, 504'ing there, 504'ing everywhere!
      • Freso does the 504 dance
      • ianmcorvidae ocharles warp: Did beta break?
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      • olaf_
        I have a question about picard and cover art. the sony mp3 walkman comes with a few mp3 sample files. they have cover art embedded. if I open such file in picard it shows the picture. but appearently its not possible to "migrate" or preserve that image inside the mp3 file. if I lookup the info for the mp3 file the cover image is removed.
      • MBJenkins
        Project libmusicbrainz build #22: SUCCESS in 11 min: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/libmusicbrainz/22/
      • olaf_
        bug or feature?
      • nikki
        olaf_: do you have it set to strip existing tags?
      • olaf_
        nikki: no
      • hawke_1
        olaf_: Do you know how the image is stored in the sample file?
      • olaf_
        hawke_1: I have no idea. at least picard does not seem to show such info, other that some "artwork" is there, image is shown in the info menu
      • the tab, I mean
      • MBJenkins
        Project libmusicbrainz build #23: SUCCESS in 1 min 52 sec: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/libmusicbrainz/23/
      • hawke_1
        olaf_: As far as I know, Picard doesn’t read existing embedded cover art — it can store new cover art and that’s all.
      • luks or bitmap might be able to answer that better.
      • olaf_
        I dont care so much about the sample files itself. but it would be nice if I can retag the mp3 albums I have and encode the image into the mp3 files so that all the albums have a picture instead of a gray box in the walkman.
      • hawke_1
        What model is it?
      • olaf_
        hawke_1: it does a lookup, just the sample file I picked has no entry in data base. would be nice if it can reuse existing images
      • hawke_1: <Model>NWZ-E460 Series</Model>
      • is there any restriction in the cover art images, licenses, or can I go and find the missing images and upload them somewhere? I see the current mb database allows me to upload images. would picard find them?
      • hawke_1
        Yes.
      • Well
      • not for standalone recordings
      • but if they’re part of an album, yes.
      • olaf_
        oh, it does. fine
      • just uploaded one yesterday and picard shows it.
      • Freso
        :)
      • Freso was actually thinking of filing a ticket for cover art for SA recordings.
      • nikki: ^ is there one already?
      • olaf_
        interesting that Eliminator lacks coverart...
      • nikki
        not that I know of
      • kepstin-work
        well, I still think that sa recordings should be promoted to some sort of release so we can record other data, like release dates etc.
      • hawke_1
        +1 to that
      • kepstin-work: How about “single” ;-)
      • Freso
        kepstin-work: Like, having dynamic attributes?
      • kepstin-work
        they're not quite singles, really :/
      • maybe add a new release group type, "standalone recording" ;)
      • Freso
        kepstin-work: I still root for recordings being able to have CA though. I have entered at least one release, where I've later found "cover art" for each track.
      • *one digital (Bandcamp) release
      • hawke_1
        I kind of think they are singles…at least, I can’t think of a difference between the two.
      • kepstin-work
        freso we have a 'track' cover art type
      • reosarevok
        Freso: well, there is a "track" cover art type
      • Freso
        I know there's a type for that in the CAA types.
      • kepstin-work
        common usage is to put the track number in the comment field on each piece of track art.
      • Freso
        But it'd still be niftier to have it directly associated with the recording/track.
      • hawke_1
        +1
      • I’m liking more and more the idea of track-as-entity.
      • (partly so that we could actually associate art with a track, but also for ARs.
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      • kepstin-work wants a level below recordings -tracks- to be linkable, and a level above recordings (recording groups? performance?) to allow grouping together alternate mixes/edits.
      • reosarevok
        I want arrangements, meatbags and a pony
      • :)
      • reosarevok sadly suspects he's more likely to get the pony anytime soon
      • kepstin-work isn't that fond of ponies, but he would take a unicorn in lieu.
      • Freso
        Meh. Screw ponies. I'm with the Canadianian - unicorns to the people!
      • That, or pegasi.
      • Pegasi would also be awesome.
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      • ianmcorvidae
        Freso: it was having trouble earlier, hopefully back later
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      • nikki prods beta again :/