ocharles, ianmcorvidae: time for timesheets & invoices!
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warp
:)
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ocharles
you're not my boss! you can't tell me what to do!
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ocharles
(today)
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mjjc
warp, ruaok: hi, I'm writing the proposal, and I have this idea I'm not sure about
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mjjc
should we allow developers to create accounts for their users throught the WS?
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warp
mjjc: probably not. but if you're using the WS as the back-end for the website itself you can still implement it that way, we'll just only use it internally and not expose it to the internet.
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mjjc
warp: we actually have two features that doesn't fit the web service - creating accounts and managing the consumer websites (for OAuth).
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mjjc
we could move the oauth thing to a separate website accessible through api.domain.com
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warp
multiple domains for a single website is a lot of fuss (for hosting (ssl certificates!), for development, for testing).
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mjjc
should we move it to WS as well?
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warp
mjjc: both of those deal with authentication and authorization, I think it's ok to keep that somewhat seperate from the main site and service.
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mjjc
and keep it in the same domain. okay.
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warp
mjjc: how exactly we tie these user accounts to the musicbrainz.org user accounts and things like that seem like details we have to discuss at a later stage.
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mjjc
are we going to tie them in the first version?
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warp
probably not
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warp
the first version should be as simple as possible, if that means you don't do ANY kind of authentication and authorization, that is fine.
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warp
I'd probably start with mozilla persona for authentication, because that is very little work, and you can then atleast tie email addresses to the submitted data
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warp
but if you're using a framework which already has built-in authentication/authorization, that would be fine as well.
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mjjc
actually, it would be fairly easy to implement OpenId authentication I guess
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mjjc
but I will look into that later. I hope it's not a problem if I change few concepts after submiting the proposal
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warp
mjjc: if your proposal is accepted expect lots of things to change when you actually start working and we discuss things again with all developers :)
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Mineo
bitmap, luks: do you know if there's any other way to fix http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/PICARD-417 than defining a function for every signal that simply passes the new state through to the setEnabled methods?
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ocharles
ruaok: one invoice sent!
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ruaok
ok, I'll order us some monies.
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ocharles
how are you sending invoices now that you're in BCN?
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ocharles
erm
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ocharles
paying*
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warp was wondering that too.
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warp
it sounds potentially very complicated :)
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ruaok
well, both of you have templates set up. I normally just walk in, put in the amount, sign it and leave.
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ruaok
now I need to have them set up a template for me.
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ruaok
then, in theory, I should be able to have them send me the templates. fill them in, email a PDF to the bank.
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ruaok
they will need to call me to confirm, but they said calling spain is ok.
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ocharles
ok, should I plan for this month to possibly be a little slower than normal?
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ruaok
and quite frankly they need to actually do something for the $35 they charge us.
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warp
haha
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ruaok
ocharles: in theory not. the bank hasn't even opened yet. we have until 20:00 my time to get it done.
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ocharles
ok, cool
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ocharles shall sit tight
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ruaok
and I've first hand experienced how long it takes money to come across the pond.
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ruaok
a week for my first wire.
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ocharles
that sounds about right
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ruaok
really? a week? nothing at all happened for the first 24 hours.
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ruaok
stooopid fucking us banks.
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ocharles
it's not just us banks, international wires are always slower
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ocharles
though it's nice that within uk transfers happen in about 10 minutes now
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ruaok
in theory all of that is supposed to go faster for intra-EU wires soon.
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warp
ruaok: it's generally on my account before the 7th. things get complicated on weekends.
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ruaok
with IBANs becoming a mandated standard next year
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ruaok
warp: that sucks. :(
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warp
ocharles: wow, nice. it's still hours here --- especially outside working hours.
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ocharles
warp: FPS, the system behind it, is meant to do it within a few hours, but it does seem to be a few minutes for me :)
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ocharles
at least paying from my business bank to my personal bank
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warp
ocharles: so if I transfer something from my dutch rabobank account to alexandra's dutch account (different bank) after 18:00 dutch time (still during the day here), it may not arrive until 7:00am dutch time next day.
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warp
and ING is the old government postbank / girobank, which even today seems slower than regular banks.
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warp
(and and added to that that my debit cards barely work here in .ec has fueled a considerable hatred toward banks in just the past weeks :)
model ('ArtistCredit')->find () doesn't take a list, that code will die with an exception in Data::Artist if is executed.
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warp
but it's in production, so that probably means it just never gets executed.
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warp
(git blame shows I wrote most of this two years ago :)
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MBJenkins
Yippie, build fixed!
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MBJenkins
Paul Taylor: SchemaChnages:More stuff for release and recordings
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bitmap
Mineo: changing it back to use the old-style signal syntax might fix it (I'm assuming that's what caused it, but I have no machine with an old PyQt to test with)