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      • MBJenkins
        Project full-import build #30: SUCCESS in 4 hr 0 min: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/full-import/30/
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      • CatQuest
        This source control system you've setup is very bearocratic
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      • CatQuest
        ?
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      • CatQuest
        bearocratic?
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      • ijabz
        heh, beaurocratic
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      • ijabz
        but bearocratic is better i think
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      • ijabz
        although ocharles isn't particularly hairy
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      • reosarevok
        ruaok: on the mentors' list "The maximum # of applications per student is now 5 instead of the former 20"
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      • ruaok
        interesting.
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      • reosarevok
        And everyone's talking about having less applications than other years
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      • ruaok
        ah, good to know.
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      • reosarevok
        "I've had the same problem trying to get students from UK universities to apply - the deadline is right in the middle of exam revision"
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      • ruaok
        which makes me wonder, how come I'm not on the mentors list?
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      • reosarevok
        And they generally mention less amount but better quality
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      • reosarevok
        dunno!
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      • ocharles
        ijabz: you don't have to commit to search_server to force a build
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      • ocharles
        you can just click 'Build Now' in ci.musicbrainz.org
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      • ocharles
        It will also build automatically
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      • ijabz
        ok
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      • UmkaDK
        Hi everyone! :)
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      • reosarevok
        hi
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      • warp
        hello!
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      • ruaok
        ocharles, ianmcorvidae: time for timesheets & invoices!
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      • warp
        :)
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      • ocharles
        you're not my boss! you can't tell me what to do!
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      • ocharles
        (today)
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      • mjjc
        warp, ruaok: hi, I'm writing the proposal, and I have this idea I'm not sure about
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      • mjjc
        should we allow developers to create accounts for their users throught the WS?
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      • warp
        mjjc: probably not. but if you're using the WS as the back-end for the website itself you can still implement it that way, we'll just only use it internally and not expose it to the internet.
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      • mjjc
        warp: we actually have two features that doesn't fit the web service - creating accounts and managing the consumer websites (for OAuth).
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      • mjjc
        we could move the oauth thing to a separate website accessible through api.domain.com
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      • warp
        multiple domains for a single website is a lot of fuss (for hosting (ssl certificates!), for development, for testing).
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      • mjjc
        should we move it to WS as well?
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      • warp
        mjjc: both of those deal with authentication and authorization, I think it's ok to keep that somewhat seperate from the main site and service.
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      • mjjc
        and keep it in the same domain. okay.
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      • warp
        mjjc: how exactly we tie these user accounts to the musicbrainz.org user accounts and things like that seem like details we have to discuss at a later stage.
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      • mjjc
        are we going to tie them in the first version?
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      • warp
        probably not
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      • warp
        the first version should be as simple as possible, if that means you don't do ANY kind of authentication and authorization, that is fine.
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      • warp
        I'd probably start with mozilla persona for authentication, because that is very little work, and you can then atleast tie email addresses to the submitted data
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      • warp
        but if you're using a framework which already has built-in authentication/authorization, that would be fine as well.
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      • mjjc
        actually, it would be fairly easy to implement OpenId authentication I guess
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      • mjjc
        but I will look into that later. I hope it's not a problem if I change few concepts after submiting the proposal
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      • warp
        mjjc: if your proposal is accepted expect lots of things to change when you actually start working and we discuss things again with all developers :)
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      • Mineo
        bitmap, luks: do you know if there's any other way to fix http://tickets.musicbrainz.org/browse/PICARD-417 than defining a function for every signal that simply passes the new state through to the setEnabled methods?
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      • ocharles
        ruaok: one invoice sent!
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      • ruaok
        ok, I'll order us some monies.
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      • ocharles
        how are you sending invoices now that you're in BCN?
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      • ocharles
        erm
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      • ocharles
        paying*
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      • warp was wondering that too.
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      • warp
        it sounds potentially very complicated :)
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      • ruaok
        well, both of you have templates set up. I normally just walk in, put in the amount, sign it and leave.
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      • ruaok
        now I need to have them set up a template for me.
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      • ruaok
        then, in theory, I should be able to have them send me the templates. fill them in, email a PDF to the bank.
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      • ruaok
        they will need to call me to confirm, but they said calling spain is ok.
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      • ocharles
        ok, should I plan for this month to possibly be a little slower than normal?
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      • ruaok
        and quite frankly they need to actually do something for the $35 they charge us.
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      • warp
        haha
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      • ruaok
        ocharles: in theory not. the bank hasn't even opened yet. we have until 20:00 my time to get it done.
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      • ocharles
        ok, cool
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      • ocharles shall sit tight
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      • ruaok
        and I've first hand experienced how long it takes money to come across the pond.
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      • ruaok
        a week for my first wire.
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      • ocharles
        that sounds about right
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      • ruaok
        really? a week? nothing at all happened for the first 24 hours.
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      • ruaok
        stooopid fucking us banks.
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      • ocharles
        it's not just us banks, international wires are always slower
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      • ocharles
        though it's nice that within uk transfers happen in about 10 minutes now
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      • ruaok
        in theory all of that is supposed to go faster for intra-EU wires soon.
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      • warp
        ruaok: it's generally on my account before the 7th. things get complicated on weekends.
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      • ruaok
        with IBANs becoming a mandated standard next year
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      • ruaok
        warp: that sucks. :(
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      • warp
        ocharles: wow, nice. it's still hours here --- especially outside working hours.
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      • ocharles
        warp: FPS, the system behind it, is meant to do it within a few hours, but it does seem to be a few minutes for me :)
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      • ocharles
        at least paying from my business bank to my personal bank
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      • warp
        ocharles: so if I transfer something from my dutch rabobank account to alexandra's dutch account (different bank) after 18:00 dutch time (still during the day here), it may not arrive until 7:00am dutch time next day.
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      • warp
        and ING is the old government postbank / girobank, which even today seems slower than regular banks.
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      • warp
        (and and added to that that my debit cards barely work here in .ec has fueled a considerable hatred toward banks in just the past weeks :)
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      • MBJenkins
        Project search_server build #249: UNSTABLE in 2 min 10 sec: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/search_server/249/
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      • MBJenkins
        Paul Taylor: Changes to Recording for Schema Changes
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      • warp
        :(
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      • reosarevok
        What happened?
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      • warp
        I'm trying to adapt code in the release editor to media instead of tracklist.
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      • warp
        and as far as I can tell this particular chunk of code is already broken in the current production release.
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      • warp
        for example:
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      • warp
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      • warp
        model ('ArtistCredit')->find () doesn't take a list, that code will die with an exception in Data::Artist if is executed.
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      • warp
        but it's in production, so that probably means it just never gets executed.
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      • warp
        (git blame shows I wrote most of this two years ago :)
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      • MBJenkins
        Yippie, build fixed!
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      • MBJenkins
        Paul Taylor: SchemaChnages:More stuff for release and recordings
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      • bitmap
        Mineo: changing it back to use the old-style signal syntax might fix it (I'm assuming that's what caused it, but I have no machine with an old PyQt to test with)
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      • bitmap
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      • ijabz
        ianmcorvidae: ping
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