#musicbrainz-devel

Project musicbrainz-server_beta build #516: STILL FAILING in 8 min 49 sec: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-serve...

* nikki: Remove unused variable

* Ian McEwen: Fix up a few broken spots with import (missing ha1 columns)

Good morning

hi ocharles!

Welcome to full-time MB!

(unless I'm mistaken :) )

reosarevok: You're not, but that was also last week :)

huh

ruaok had said July 1st at some point

yeah, that was the plan I recalled too, but hey. more ocharles is good.

reosarevok: that's right, but the week before that was musicbrainz anyway

As opposed to more ocharles are good, since they'd just get into an argument about ivory towerish stuff and never start working

Bitbucket has a LGBT logo today

at least, I think that's what it represents

If you hover it says "type g then d" but that doesn't do anything for me

the government of barcelona hung a gay pride flag in the main square last week in response to the SCOTUS ruling. :)

ocharles: huh. It took me to https://bitbucket.org/dashboard/pullrequests/re... but I doubt that's what they wanted :p

What is the SCOTUS ruling?

Something something about forbidding gay marriage being unconstitutional IIRC

that a stupid law that said that marriage was between a man and a woman was overtuned.

Only 10 years late or so :p

reosarevok: it wasn't that direct.

oh, that's good news!

they merely said that this one law is unconstitutional.

ocharles: way good news.

and that it came the week before pride was awesome.

SF has been offf the hook the last week

Basically, the SCOTUS decision requires the federal law to recognize same-sex marriages performed at the state level.

It doesn't require states to allow same-sex marriage, but it does mean that if someone gets married in California or Massachusetts or one of the other states that allow same-sex marriage, they get the usual federal benefits.

Even if they then move to $crazy_christ_state?

I'm not totally clear on that.

It might depend on residency, or it might just be that they lose state recognition.

If yes, then I guess it's kinda the same as a full-country legalisation to most effects, except for poor people who can't get to any of those states :/

Or it could be any one of a number of other options.

ruaok: is the plan to carry on with VM stuff today?

yes, though didn't we agreed to go separate paths?

you lolo, me search and release VM?

I know that a couple of the states that allow gay marriage don't require the married couple to be a resident of the state in question, which could mean that just getting married is sufficient to gain federal recognition.

No, I need to give you stuff that assumes only one drive instead of two

didn't you check that in already?

Now if Montana allowed gay marriage, it'd get rid of the travel problem: Montana allows double-proxy marriages. (Neither party need be present.)

ruaok: no, we decided to that ten minutes before I left work :)

woah, really? thats crazy.

ok, np.

then lets carry on with that.

Leftmost: do they need to agree? :p

Yes. :-P

if I get not response from the vagrant people tomorrorw, I will just fork over $80

That sounds like you could forge someone's letter and get married without them knowing :p

I think the Montana government should recognize the potential goldmine awaiting them. "Are you in a same-sex relationship and want to get married? Do it from the comfort of your home!"

srsly

ocharles: can we just ship https://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-serve... I'm sick of seeing that ticket stuck in review submitted

Leftmost: how much they charge? :p

No idea, not married. :-P

You did know they offered it though :p

I live in Montana. It's my business to know how weird a state it really is.

Oh! That explains it :)

A few states allow proxy marriages, but Montana is the only one to allow double-proxy.

nikki: I don't know, in short. I don't like shipping the arbitrary scaling, due to my final comment. And in terms of fixing it properly, I need to spend more time understanding how the rank calculation is done

the proper fix is to get rid of the direct search :P

nikki: so for me, if you don't want it in review submitted, I would have to reject the review

that would be my vote, anyway

and yes, I'd love to rather spend my time removing direct search

and it's not arbitrary scaling, it's displaying all scores consistently

no, it's arbitrary, see my last comment

it doesn't matter that the direct and lucene scores are not comparable, because two lucene scores are also not comparable

it doesn't mean what people think it means

basically, I don't think we understand how this score calculation works, so before shipping something I'd like to understand that

what do people think it means?

well lucene tops out at 100

but this ranking doesn't have a maximum

and the direct one at 10, afaik

no, that's just what we see. the ranking choice we use doesn't have a maximum

but I'd like to understand why we only see 10

Or more accurately, why the db only goes to 0.1

Seems to be pretty consistent in going to 0.1

that seems like a big waste of time

ruaok: oh, it seems like I may indeed have done the VM stuff

ruaok: so grab git pull && git submodule update, and see what happens

did the lucene search make it into the vm yet?

zag: no

ocharles: :-)

thx, i took a quick look but looked very complicated

zag: its really not that bad.

making search consistant around the whole site would be nice ;)

ocharles: I could use some help making the war and jar into .deb s

ok, time to head out and hit the office

bbiab

ruaok: how do I turn lolo on?

feh. we want to turn lolo on now?

ruaok: if poss

that means we'll get charged for it for the whole month.

oh well.

let me call them. thats the fastest.

should be coming up soon.

thanks!

bbiab

Meh, if only our blog had as many real human readers as it has spammers saying how great it is :p

what do you expect when it's so boring? :P

http://musicbrainz.org/artist/1fd6a88b-ac4b-42f... that group, see the first artist

it says " (Ahmed Aqrish) (clarinet) ( – ????) "

but click through, there's a year of death set

(but no birth)

there isn't...

there's just the ended checkbox ticked, which is why it shows ????

Died:1983

oh

oh, you're talking about the artist

oh

I see

the ???? is for the length of the relationship

yeah

not details of the person

never mind then :)

you might like to tell the person/people doing those edits that the sortname should be latin and then it doesn't need to go in the disambiguation comment :P

sure

if there is a sort name, should the non-sorted name also be as an alias?

hm?

name: احمد أقريش, sort name: Aqrish, Ahmed, alias: Ahmed Aqrish

or is the alias unneeded

ah