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                    JesseW
                Mineo: how bi-directional is MineoBot with regards to Wikidata links? Does it update MB if a wikidata link is added on the wikidata side?
     
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                    Mineo
                no, it does not do that
     
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                    JesseW
                Mineo: but it will ensure any Wikidata links in MB are reflected in Wikidata, within a day or so...?
     
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                    JesseW
                how does it handle false positives (cases where there is a Wikidata link in MB, but it is wrong)?
     
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                    Mineo
                it runs 15 minutes after the hour on rika, so depending on when the replication on rika happens, between 1 and 2 hours
     
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                    Mineo
                unless, as is the case right now, it just deadlocks :/
     
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                    JesseW
                oh?
     
      2015-03-01 06012, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                ah, I see it hasn't run since the 24th. :-(
     
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                    JesseW
                
     
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                    Mineo
                yes, it probably just wants me to reenter the password
     
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                    JesseW
                heh. which password -- Wikidata, MB, or something else?
     
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                    Mineo
                and instead of just being like "hey, I'm being called from cron and there's no way somebody's going to enter a password here, I'll just exit(1)" or something it waits :/
     
      2015-03-01 06041, 2015 
    
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                    Mineo
                wikidata
     
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                    JesseW
                sigh.
     
      2015-03-01 06010, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                you don't have it hardcoded? (not that that is a *good* idea, but it would avoid this problem...)
     
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                    Mineo
                I don't think you can hardcode the password
     
      2015-03-01 06042, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                hm. what framework are you using to access wikidata?
     
      2015-03-01 06012, 2015 
    
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                    Mineo
                regarding the false positives: it only processes url entities where edits_pending on the entry in url and l_*_url (or l_url_work :P) is 0
     
      2015-03-01 06007, 2015 
    
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                    Mineo
                and meh, in this case it didn't want the password but just randomly deadlocked
     
      2015-03-01 06015, 2015 
    
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                    Mineo
                (again :( )
     
      2015-03-01 06016, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                But it will re-add entries if someone at Wikidata objects and removes it?
     
      2015-03-01 06020, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                sympathy
     
      2015-03-01 06037, 2015 
    
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                    Mineo
                no, it will only look at each primary entity in mb once
     
      2015-03-01 06024, 2015 
    
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                    Mineo
                there are some <uuid, timestamp> tables that keep track of the already processed ones
     
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                    JesseW
                what if someone edits the Wikidata linkage in MB, after the bot has gone over it once? It won't update the linkage on Wikidata?
     
      2015-03-01 06006, 2015 
    
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                    Mineo
                it won't
     
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                    Mineo
                
     
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                    Mineo
                
     
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                    JesseW
                thanks
     
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                    JesseW
                
     
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                    Mineo
                
     
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                    Mineo
                
     
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        JesseW will look
     
      2015-03-01 06025, 2015 
    
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        Mineo wonders why github still doesn't show comments on your own pull requests in your news feed :/
     
      2015-03-01 06032, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                what does FIF stand for in the context of URL input fields?
     
      2015-03-01 06017, 2015 
    
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                    Mineo
                is that related to anything I did? because I have no idea :P
     
      2015-03-01 06028, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                no, something else I'm looking at. :-)
     
      2015-03-01 06034, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                sorry for the confusion
     
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                    Mineo
                then I'll take this chance to hop into bed - it's already 1:42 am over here
     
      2015-03-01 06051, 2015 
    
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                    Mineo
                gute nacht
     
      2015-03-01 06048, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                g'night! thanks for the links and anwers
     
      2015-03-01 06002, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                and thanks for restarting the bot!
     
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                    JesseW
                Mineo (if you read the logs) -- I think the bot has deadlocked again...
     
      2015-03-01 06003, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                It hasn't run since 0:38 UTC
     
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                    JesseW
                I'm getting test failures in beta -- specifically, the DeleteEditor test
     
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                    JesseW
                ignore it -- I didn't have Markdown installed.
     
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                    legoktm
                
     
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                    chirlu`
                michaeljames: The search server in SVN is completely outdated, you should be using a git checkout instead.
     
      2015-03-01 06055, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                legoktm: thanks
     
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                    JesseW
                
     
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                    chirlu`
                It’s probably going away soon anyway.
     
      2015-03-01 06007, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                
     
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                    JesseW
                doesn't it have data that isn't copied elsewhere on it still?
     
      2015-03-01 06008, 2015 
    
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                    chirlu`
                I don’t think so, I believe everything still relevant has been archived.
     
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                    JesseW
                good
     
      2015-03-01 06047, 2015 
    
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                    JesseW
                it would still be better to have a soft redirect, as it is apparently pretty widely linked...
     
      2015-03-01 06059, 2015 
    
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                    chirlu`
                However, when “soon” will be is another question. :)
     
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                    sv2241
                I've installed the musicbrainz mirror according to INSTALL.md but don't know how to keep it in sync as this part is not covered in the guide
     
      2015-03-01 06011, 2015 
    
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                    sv2241
                are there any Upstart or SysVinit scripts that you're using?
     
      2015-03-01 06027, 2015 
    
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                    nikki
                I think you need to put admin/cron/slave.sh into cron and run it hourly
     
      2015-03-01 06037, 2015 
    
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                    nikki
                (to update the db itself)
     
      2015-03-01 06017, 2015 
    
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                    nikki
                to update things like the search server, I have no idea how we do that
     
      2015-03-01 06040, 2015 
    
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                    nikki
                the servers seem ridiculously slow lately...
     
      2015-03-01 06020, 2015 
    
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                    nikki
                it's taking so long to enter edits that I keep switching to something else to pass the time while I wait
     
      2015-03-01 06017, 2015 
    
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                    reosarevok
                Maybe it's all a plot to make us try bookbrainz :p
     
      2015-03-01 06037, 2015 
    
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                    nikki
                it didn't work :P
     
      2015-03-01 06042, 2015 
    
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                    nikki
                I ended up editing wikidata a bit instead
     
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                    sv2241
                
     
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                    sv2241
                nvm, i figured it out
     
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                    nikki
                
     
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                    nikki
                oh yay, from slow to instant 504s, nice
     
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                    Freso
                Am I the only one having a high 504 frequency?
     
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                    JesseW
                nikki: thanks
     
      2015-03-01 06018, 2015 
    
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                    Freso
                Oh, I guess nikki was gaving some too.
     
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                    nikki
                I had one. mostly the site is just sloooow
     
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                    Leo_Verto
                bookbrainz also throwing 504s
     
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                    Freso
                And Geordi.
     
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                    fridaynext
                I'm trying to set up a headphones vm, and when I start it, it just spools up to 100% CPU and I can't ssh to it.
     
      2015-03-01 06031, 2015 
    
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                    fridaynext
                Is the current downloadable VM still working?
     
      2015-03-01 06033, 2015 
    
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                    fridaynext
                anyone here?
     
      2015-03-01 06036, 2015 
    
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                    derwin
                hi
     
      2015-03-01 06059, 2015 
    
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                    derwin
                it should be, what server are you using etc?
     
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                    fridaynext
                running the vm in Ubuntu Server 14.04 headless.
     
      2015-03-01 06020, 2015 
    
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                    fridaynext
                Virtualbox
     
      2015-03-01 06039, 2015 
    
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                    fridaynext
                I have a Win7 vm running fine, but this MusicBrainz server just sits at 100%.
     
      2015-03-01 06005, 2015 
    
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                    fridaynext
                I gave it 1 CPU and 2048 RAM.
     
      2015-03-01 06017, 2015 
    
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                    fridaynext
                running on an Intel G1610 2.6GHz Celeron.
     
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                    fridaynext
                any ideas derwin?
     
      2015-03-01 06038, 2015 
    
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                    derwin
                I don't know, unfortunately
     
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                    derwin
                I have not had that experience on ubuntu headless
     
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                    fridaynext
                I just removed/unregistered the vm and re-imported it, and same thing. Just spins at 100%
     
      2015-03-01 06020, 2015 
    
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                    fridaynext
                does MusicBrainz need to be running 24/7?
     
      2015-03-01 06034, 2015 
    
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                    fridaynext
                if not, I'll just try to install it on my desktop OS, and run it occasionally.
     
      2015-03-01 06028, 2015 
    
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                    fridaynext
                is the server 32-bit or 64-bit, derwin?
     
      2015-03-01 06042, 2015 
    
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                    fridaynext
                the VM, that is.
     
      2015-03-01 06010, 2015 
    
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                    fridaynext
                Meh, I'll try 64-bit and see if it works.
     
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                    fridaynext
                And soon, I'll give up on this, b/c I don't even understand what MusicBrainz is.
     
      2015-03-01 06052, 2015 
    
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                    fridaynext
                I found the problem - when I use the vm in VirtualBox in OSX, it's waiting for me to choose Ubuntu from a list
     
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                    derwin
                heh
     
      2015-03-01 06015, 2015 
    
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                    derwin
                that's weird, it should default
     
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                    fridaynext
                I just need to know how to actually see the VM, when I'm starting the VM from the command line.
     
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                    derwin
                I've run it headless
     
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                    derwin
                pretty sure, but maybe not the most recent
     
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                    fridaynext
                derwin: I'm sure it's just a first run thing
     
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                    Freso
                Geordi is really running badly today. :( Half the time, the field for entering an MBID never appears when doing the "Match this item" button. :(
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                Freso: I'll restart the process, dunno if it'll help
     
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                    Freso
                ianmcorvidae: It seems to be general MB thing though, not just a Geordi/rika thing.
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                that's part of the being unsure it'll help :) but I figured it was worth a shot
     
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                    ianmcorvidae
                Freso: not that geordi's on rika, if that's what you meant, but :)
     
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                    Freso
                Right. :p