#musicbrainz-devel

lol

Couldn't really spare that much time and/or money I'm afraid.

well, there's always next year

Maybe.

... which is already starting to be planned, heh, so :)

As long as it's in Swindon :D

haha

copenhagen, looks like

yeah, start planning now :P

hmm, wouldn't say no to copenhagen

Hmm

apparently if I buy now, Estonian Air costs only 85€ return with a direct flight from Tallinn

the unknown compmusicers are ajay and sertan

Freso: decide on the dates soon! :p

Oh, crap, I'm late for class *again*

warp: can you help with test failures?

Project musicbrainz-server_beta build #223: STILL FAILING in 18 min: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-serve...

irc!

warp: hey

warp: so, need to release today, lots of test failures relating to html5

reoafk: I will! flight tickets might be cheap for me too this early!

Oh, wait...

i think master is failing just because that hasn't been configured at all

fun :)

reoafk: Just buy tickets for 1st of September to 30th of September and take the month off. :p

ocharles: Is my DHHU commit already on master? It isn't listed in the paste Jenkins listed before.

ocharles: ah, it cannot connect to the validator. you can uncomment the localhost validator, I have a local copy running on hobbes.

freso: look on http://github.com/metabrainz/musicbrainz-server

warp: can I leave that to you?

ocharles: sure

ocharles: this is the release with the DBDefs defaults stuff changes though, right?

oh, yes

ocharles: DBDefs.pm seems very big, so it hasn't been updated with that in mind?

right, so that should be done first. can ianmcorvidae do that? :)

i'm just trying to catch up on email stuff right now

i can have a look at that shortly

he might be able to

it's his patch >:)

though I guess it's just emptying the file except for those settings which deviate from defaults.

yep, pretty much

my e-mail provider has a power outage, which is a tad annoying as I've just re-installed windows 8 on my laptop and am thus re-installing a bunch of stuff.

(so currently no access to activation codes or password resets, etc...)

ocharles: also anorwegian list from last.fm :D

warp: You never use e-mail anyway, so I guess I fail to see what problem you're having... ;)

Where's Rob to tell me to read more, ask less?

hmm, what is a link to that images fro mthe summit

warp, ocharles: the improvements to DBDefs aren't required except for two

warp, ocharles: AWS_ASSOCIATE_ID (I think?) and CAA_UPLOAD_PREFIXER

in both cases you can just comment out the one you've configured, there's no reason you'd change those

ianmcorvidae: for ci?

for in general, you'll get 500s on release pages with the AWS one

and fail to ever upload coverart with the caa one

both of those are the functions in DBDefs that actually care about their arguments, that's the issue

make sure to add 'use DBDefs::Default' to the top as well of course

yea, I have all that

but why can't I just use the defaults for those functions?

you can

you should, in fact

ok, cool

that's what this does, commenting them out

literally all ci/beta has is the database settings

we'll see what happens

probably needs a schema sequence too, those should be the only needed configurations

though we may not use the schema sequence outside of replication

so maybe that doesn't matter

oh, we didn't put a default on that, did we?

nope, no default for schema sequence

k

because we want people to have to interfere manually

ea

yea

Freso :)

ocharles: I'm not sure if you should perhaps use "Indian art music" instead of "Indian classical music". Most people I know and things I've read about the field seem to use "art music" over "classical music" (though the meaning is generally the same, I guess).

pretty esoteric, yeah

distinction that only matters to people who really care about that particular type of music, which is... minimal in the MB community, to say the least :P

otherwise people would have demanded ragas and talas already :P

Freso: wikipedia says Indian classical music, so I just copied that

ocharles: Alright.

either is fine

alastairp: :)

actualy calling all "music written by deadguys before 1800" "classic music " is a bit like calling all "music written by deadguys after 1800" "pop music". and being a music cycolpediariumeria whatever we shouldprobably di it right. however "art music " is WAY pretencious

eg "classical" "gregrian" etc

wht do we know, perhaps separation thme woud be better for styleguides and management of thme too

Indian classical/art music is written from now until way before 1800.

that was kind of my point :)

it's hard to define these withouth doing "classic music" as a genre

because people *still* do write sympohoneis, ragas or whatever

it's beautiful

not like it's that good for western classical/art music either, of course, but agreed :P

yea

ianmcorvidae: oh, did you see jesus complaining about not being able to write/edit forum posts?

Project musicbrainz-server_beta build #224: STILL FAILING in 33 min: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-serve...

I didn't, the forums are quite a little clusterfuck lately

so I'm not exactly surprised or anything

warp: ok, I used an 'empty' DBDefs, and now the majority of tests fail because they can't connect to HTML_VALIDATOR

if that's left blank, shouldn't those tests be skipped?

ocharles: the default should be validator.nu

ocharles: for hobbes we can use localhost (which should be in the default DBDefs, but commented out)

ok, it's using validator.nu

ocharles: if you force it blank, it should skip tests, yes.

at the moment, but still failing

localhost with which port for ci?

# sub HTML_VALIDATOR { 'http://localhost:8888?out=json' }

yes, I can see that, I don't know if that's what I should be using though

yes

(though if validator.nu always fails when building the whole thing, it is not a very good default)

I guess they're rate limiting

# Failed test 'valid HTML5, Could not connect to http://localhost:8888?out=json';

Project musicbrainz-server_beta build #225: ABORTED in 3 min 5 sec: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-serve...

:(

odd

this is going to be another selenium isn't it? :(

a curl to http://localhost:8888 does seem to return some stuff though

I'm restarting it.

ok

ok, it's back.

ocharles: still failing :(

in what way?

oh wait, maybe I'm looking an the wrong stuff.

ocharles: I thought you and/or ian updated master

Project musicbrainz-server_master build #345: ABORTED in 8 min 12 sec: http://ci.musicbrainz.org/job/musicbrainz-serve...

updated in what way?

I'm working on beta atm

the DBDefs

yes, for beta, i'll do master once beta works

ocharles: ok, I'll stare at the beta build console output for a bit then.

:)

ok, it seems to be working and finding all sorts of invalid HTML

heh, whoops, laptop ran out of battery

apparently my cord had come unplugged

probably the adapter sucking, mostly

I wonder where all those abouts come from.

yea, I was wondering that