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      • icepick-away
        icepick-away is now known as icepick

        • 2003-04-01 09150, 2003

      • MacDome
        MacDome (~macdome@143.44.117.251) has joined #musicbrainz

        • 2003-04-01 09124, 2003

      • ruaok
        MacDome: got a question for ya

        • 2003-04-01 09149, 2003

      • MacDome
        sure.

        • 2003-04-01 09102, 2003

      • ruaok
        I installed dev tools once again to get clean tools

        • 2003-04-01 09113, 2003

      • MacDome
        ok

        • 2003-04-01 09113, 2003

      • ruaok
        so now I need to install autoconf and automake.

        • 2003-04-01 09129, 2003

      • ruaok
        I don't want to install them into /usr since that will clobber the default mac

        • 2003-04-01 09131, 2003

      • ruaok
        versions.

        • 2003-04-01 09134, 2003

      • ruaok
        phone one sec.

        • 2003-04-01 09147, 2003

      • ruaok
        sorry.

        • 2003-04-01 09152, 2003

      • ruaok
        so...

        • 2003-04-01 09107, 2003

      • MacDome
        considered fink?

        • 2003-04-01 09113, 2003

      • ruaok
        I went to install autoconf and automake into /usr/local as one is supposed to do these tings on a BSD box.

        • 2003-04-01 09133, 2003

      • ruaok
        I've really not had much luck with fink yet...

        • 2003-04-01 09143, 2003

      • MacDome
        my luck has varied

        • 2003-04-01 09158, 2003

      • ruaok
        anyway, installing into /usr/local fails

        • 2003-04-01 09106, 2003

      • ruaok
        I can't build my programs.

        • 2003-04-01 09113, 2003

      • MacDome
        but it's in your path?

        • 2003-04-01 09123, 2003

      • ruaok
        yes, /usr/local/bin is the first thing.

        • 2003-04-01 09122, 2003

      • MacDome
        I guess I just use the default install... or hum... maybe I upgraded them a long time ago... but no, I think I just use automake and autoconf as they ship from apple.

        • 2003-04-01 09151, 2003

      • ruaok
        I would too, but my progs depend on a more recent version and Apple hasn't gotten there yet.

        • 2003-04-01 09125, 2003

      • MacDome
        ah... I've had that problem before... don't remember what I did... I think I used fink in that instance. i guess that would be my knee-jurk reaction is to try fink.

        • 2003-04-01 09151, 2003

      • MacDome
        after I learn to speak english...

        • 2003-04-01 09103, 2003

      • ruaok
        :-)

        • 2003-04-01 09116, 2003

      • ruaok
        Ok, I think I'll try fink again. Thanks

        • 2003-04-01 09140, 2003

      • MacDome
        best of luck. If that doesn't work I'd love to know.

        • 2003-04-01 09116, 2003

      • ruaok
        ok, I'll go tinker some more.

        • 2003-04-01 09130, 2003

      • ruaok
        Once I can cross that hurdle I can finally release the mb_client for darwin.

        • 2003-04-01 09133, 2003

      • ruaok
        About time too.

        • 2003-04-01 09100, 2003

      • MacDome
        hum.. fink's version isn't much newer.

        • 2003-04-01 09123, 2003

      • MacDome
        I have AC: 2.52 AM 1.6.1 (which is what ships...) fink offers: 2.54, 1.6.3

        • 2003-04-01 09104, 2003

      • ruaok
        I gotta figure out the proper way to do this without depending on fink or apply.

        • 2003-04-01 09106, 2003

      • ruaok
        apple

        • 2003-04-01 09132, 2003

      • ruaok
        :-( I tried it again and it barfs all over the place.

        • 2003-04-01 09158, 2003

      • MacDome
        I'll be a lot more familiar with this all in another month or so..

        • 2003-04-01 09115, 2003

      • MacDome
        what version do you need?

        • 2003-04-01 09107, 2003

      • ruaok
        I forget. I'm just installing the latest and greatest.

        • 2003-04-01 09125, 2003

      • MacDome
        it's not likely that the autoconf guys test against an OSX box...

        • 2003-04-01 09138, 2003

      • MacDome
        so you may have to pull an older one

        • 2003-04-01 09154, 2003

      • MacDome
        let me try running bootstap on my machine... or whatever you call the script

        • 2003-04-01 09101, 2003

      • ruaok
        I know that if I install it into /usr it works great.

        • 2003-04-01 09124, 2003

      • ruaok
        nope that doesn't work anymore either.

        • 2003-04-01 09133, 2003

      • ruaok
        How in the hell did I get this to work the first time?

        • 2003-04-01 09155, 2003

      • MacDome
        do you have a particular barf message?

        • 2003-04-01 09114, 2003

      • ruaok
        oops. I forgot to reset my path.

        • 2003-04-01 09117, 2003

      • ruaok
        It does work. :-)

        • 2003-04-01 09121, 2003

      • ruaok sighs a big sigh of relief

        • 2003-04-01 09122, 2003

      • ruaok
        I need to go merge the darwin_port branch

        • 2003-04-01 09104, 2003

      • MacDome
        ok

        • 2003-04-01 09120, 2003

      • ruaok
        crap the merged branch fails on trying to find ar

        • 2003-04-01 09131, 2003

      • ruaok
        or it calls the wrong ar

        • 2003-04-01 09110, 2003

      • ruaok
        what usage does your /usr/bin/ar print out?

        • 2003-04-01 09146, 2003

      • MacDome
        emailed.

        • 2003-04-01 09101, 2003

      • ruaok
        thx

        • 2003-04-01 09114, 2003

      • MacDome
        rob at eorbit, right?

        • 2003-04-01 09144, 2003

      • ruaok
        ya

        • 2003-04-01 09150, 2003

      • ruaok
        msg Rotty you around?

        • 2003-04-01 09153, 2003

      • ruaok
        damn :-)

        • 2003-04-01 09119, 2003

      • kyleboon
        haha

        • 2003-04-01 09136, 2003

      • ruaok
        thanks MacDome -- Its a build system problem.

        • 2003-04-01 09146, 2003

      • ruaok
        Thank heavens -- I can figure that shit out. :-)

        • 2003-04-01 09143, 2003

      • ruaok
        cool, I fixed the build problem.

        • 2003-04-01 09153, 2003

      • kyleboon
        ruaok: if I want to make an app MB aware, should I use the existing client library or wait for tunepimp?

        • 2003-04-01 09118, 2003

      • ruaok
        wait for tunepimp.

        • 2003-04-01 09127, 2003

      • kyleboon
        cool

        • 2003-04-01 09131, 2003

      • ruaok
        I'll have time for tp this week.

        • 2003-04-01 09135, 2003

      • ruaok
        I know you've heard that before.

        • 2003-04-01 09141, 2003

      • ruaok
        And I'm sorry for slacking on that.

        • 2003-04-01 09153, 2003

      • kyleboon
        you have other shit to do, don't worry about it

        • 2003-04-01 09110, 2003

      • ruaok
        I will finish it before I go to Japan.

        • 2003-04-01 09124, 2003

      • kyleboon
        cool

        • 2003-04-01 09125, 2003

      • ruaok
        At least finish it so I can toss it into your court. :-)

        • 2003-04-01 09129, 2003

      • kyleboon
        right

        • 2003-04-01 09144, 2003

      • kyleboon
        I have the beginings of my Qt linux music manager app working

        • 2003-04-01 09149, 2003

      • MacDome
        what is tunepimp?

        • 2003-04-01 09151, 2003

      • ruaok
        sweet.

        • 2003-04-01 09101, 2003

      • ruaok
        tunepimp is a tagger encapsulation library

        • 2003-04-01 09112, 2003

      • ruaok
        abstracts all the trm and tag reading and writing.

        • 2003-04-01 09113, 2003

      • kyleboon
        next step is some gui improvements and getting it to work with MB

        • 2003-04-01 09120, 2003

      • ruaok
        Makes writing a tagger a snap.

        • 2003-04-01 09147, 2003

      • kyleboon
        is the new server live yet?

        • 2003-04-01 09129, 2003

      • ruaok
        yup.

        • 2003-04-01 09133, 2003

      • ruaok
        are you on the mailing list?

        • 2003-04-01 09149, 2003

      • ruaok
        'twas announced this sat.

        • 2003-04-01 09156, 2003

      • kyleboon
        im on it

        • 2003-04-01 09101, 2003

      • kyleboon
        I musta missed that email

        • 2003-04-01 09103, 2003

      • ruaok
        The servers are noq quiet and happy.

        • 2003-04-01 09106, 2003

      • ruaok
        now

        • 2003-04-01 09115, 2003

      • kyleboon
        what kind of load do you think they can handle now?

        • 2003-04-01 09154, 2003

      • ruaok
        That is hard to say without empirical testing.

        • 2003-04-01 09106, 2003

      • ruaok
        2-3 times the load is a safe bet though.

        • 2003-04-01 09126, 2003

      • ruaok
        phidauex: you around?

        • 2003-04-01 09103, 2003

      • kyleboon
        it would be cool if we could get mentioned on /. again just to increase the load and find out

        • 2003-04-01 09111, 2003

      • ruaok
        hahah

        • 2003-04-01 09137, 2003

      • ruaok
        MacDome: can you please check out mb_client and build it?

        • 2003-04-01 09146, 2003

      • ruaok
        Not the darwin_port branch -- check out HEAD

        • 2003-04-01 09100, 2003

      • ruaok
        It should work without modifications now.

        • 2003-04-01 09110, 2003

      • ruaok
        phidauex: Please do the same when you wake up.

        • 2003-04-01 09149, 2003

      • ruaok
        ok, I gotta go. back later.

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      • alus_
        alus_ is now known as alus

        • 2003-04-01 09103, 2003

      • MacDome has quit

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      • ruaok
        ruaok (~robert@adsl-63-194-101-14.dsl.snlo01.pacbell.net) has joined #musicbrainz

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      • kyleboon
        kyleboon (kyle@adsl-66-72-207-171.dsl.clevoh.ameritech.net) has joined #musicbrainz

        • 2003-04-01 09126, 2003

      • kyleboon
        we should add MB speficic stuff to id3 v2 tags

        • 2003-04-01 09153, 2003

      • kyleboon
        kyleboon is now known as kyleboon|sleep

        • 2003-04-01 09112, 2003

      • ruaok
        we do. we currently add the track id to the Unique File Identifier in the id3v2 tag.

        • 2003-04-01 09133, 2003

      • ruaok
        Tomorrow I will add more code to also write the album, artist and trm id to the file.

        • 2003-04-01 09152, 2003

      • ruaok
        And then I will post a spec about what tags are named what and how to read the data.

        • 2003-04-01 09110, 2003

      • ruaok
        and lets hope you read your backscroll. :-)

        • 2003-04-01 09102, 2003

      • phidauex
        ruaok:

        • 2003-04-01 09105, 2003

      • phidauex
        still around?

        • 2003-04-01 09109, 2003

      • phidauex
        what do you want me to do?

        • 2003-04-01 09150, 2003

      • phidauex
        ok, i see, checkout and build mb_client

        • 2003-04-01 09146, 2003

      • phidauex
        building now

        • 2003-04-01 09113, 2003

      • phidauex
        looks like its all working, ruaok :)

        • 2003-04-01 09125, 2003

      • phidauex
        one small problem.. with the 'tagger' test application, it will find matching tracks and list them 1. 2. 3. etc, but if you type '1' to choose, it just says "Query failed: No items matched"

        • 2003-04-01 09152, 2003

      • phidauex
        but thats probably just a boo boo in the test application, i can sucessfully get trms, get tracks, find albums, lookup cds, et

        • 2003-04-01 09125, 2003

      • phidauex
        good stuff, you rock the block party till my hair turns grey.

        • 2003-04-01 09111, 2003

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      • jsimmons
        jsimmons is now known as jsimmons|april1

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        • 2003-04-01 09155, 2003

      • ruaok
        hey

        • 2003-04-01 09112, 2003

      • ruaok
        I created a new account (on test) for user mb

        • 2003-04-01 09119, 2003

      • djce
        Hi

        • 2003-04-01 09131, 2003

      • ruaok
        I figured we'd use that account to run the staging server from.

        • 2003-04-01 09141, 2003

      • djce
        OK. Cool. How's the tagger?

        • 2003-04-01 09145, 2003

      • ruaok
        what is the best way to give that new user privs to access the database?

        • 2003-04-01 09152, 2003

      • ruaok
        I've never had to deal with PG perms before.

        • 2003-04-01 09103, 2003

      • ruaok
        tagger is lagging. :-)

        • 2003-04-01 09110, 2003

      • ruaok
        The macheads got to me first....

        • 2003-04-01 09117, 2003

      • djce
        If you use the new InitDB.pl, then it should create a new Pg user

        • 2003-04-01 09125, 2003

      • djce
        that user will own the database,

        • 2003-04-01 09125, 2003

      • ruaok
        DUH!

        • 2003-04-01 09126, 2003

      • ruaok
        Right.

        • 2003-04-01 09131, 2003

      • djce
        thus have all the perms required.

        • 2003-04-01 09141, 2003

      • ruaok
        Forgot about thet nicetly.

        • 2003-04-01 09150, 2003

      • ruaok
        Lemme blow the current db away.

        • 2003-04-01 09149, 2003

      • ruaok
        Grr. perms are still off.

        • 2003-04-01 09101, 2003

      • ruaok
        Does InitDb.pl need to run as root to get that right?

        • 2003-04-01 09110, 2003

      • djce
        On the DB? Lemme check...

        • 2003-04-01 09119, 2003

      • djce
        No, it just needs the "postgres" user to exist.

        • 2003-04-01 09125, 2003

      • djce
        Which of course it always will.

        • 2003-04-01 09126, 2003

      • ruaok
        crap.

        • 2003-04-01 09137, 2003

      • ruaok
        User mb still has no right to access the tables.