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                    yalaforge 
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                    rj_ hi all 
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                    rj_ what should i be downloading if i want to fingerprint files and look up MBIDs if they exist, from linux CLI ? 
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                    yalaforge at the moment there's only tunepimp's reference implementation 
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                    rj_ so i should checkout  tunepimp? 
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                    yalaforge yup 
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                    rj_ ok, cheers 
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                    yalaforge I'm currently playing with tunepimp, perhaps I'll write a curses frontend 
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                    rj_ i'm hooking it up to a PHP script for when people upload files via web interface 
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                    rj_ i'm just gonna parse the stdout of the CLI version 
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                    rj_ its either that or write a PHP extension 
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                    yalaforge uh. good luck then. the interface is a bit, err, strange ;-) 
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                    rj_ heh, strange i can deal with. provided its always the same amount of strange 
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                    yalaforge :-) 
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                    yalaforge do you know C? 
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                    rj_ i know enough to be dangerous 
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        rj_ grabs libmad 
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                    yalaforge mb_client is also a dependency 
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                    rj_ yeah i've satisfied that one 
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                    rj_ makes me wish i was running gentoo on my webserver tho ;) 
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        rj_ compiles tunepimp 
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                    rj_ uh-oh 
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                    yalaforge trouble? 
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                    rj_ yep 
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                    rj_ failed on make 
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                    rj_ may i paste some output in here? 
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                    yalaforge sure 
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                    rj_ make[2]: *** [tp_tagger] Error 1 
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                    rj_ make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/rj/MusicBrainz/tunepimp/examples' 
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                    rj_ make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 
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                    rj_ make: *** [all] Error 2 
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                    yalaforge seems there's a -lstdc missing or something 
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                    rj_ care to elaborate? :) 
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        yalaforge checks more carefully 
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                    yalaforge try: LDFLAGS='-lstdc' ./configure && make 
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                    yalaforge oops, -lstdc++, most probably 
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                    rj_ yup, the ++ did it 
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                    yalaforge cool 
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                    rj_ thanks, its installed now 
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                    rj_ what does that flag mean then? 
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                    yalaforge it links with the C++ standard library 
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                    yalaforge that's needed for all the string operations, lists, maps and stuff 
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                    rj_ ah, hence the undefined refs to std::stuff 
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                    rj_ cool. thanks :) 
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        yalaforge is no c++ guy 
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                    yalaforge np 
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                    yalaforge hey! now that the work is almost done ;-) 
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                    ruaok uh oh. :-) 
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                    ruaok Guesse aus Hamburg. 
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                    yalaforge Gr��e zur�ck! 
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                    ruaok At last we're in the same timezone. 
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                    ruaok And only one off from djce 
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                    rj_ heh, hi ruaok 
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                    ruaok rj_: hi! 
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                    yalaforge yup. But it's already too late for me. Got to get up early tomorrow 
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                    ruaok rj_: 'twas good meeting you in oxford. 
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                    ruaok yalaforge: ok, gute nacht! 
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                    yalaforge night all! 
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                    rj_ likewise, yalaforge just gave me a hand with tunepimp - i'm starting the web based importer w/ MB support now 
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                    ruaok excellent. 
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                    rj_ how was amsterdam? 
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                    ruaok quite nice. until I got mad sick. 
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                    rj_ :/ 
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                    ruaok 4 days down from the flu sucks. 
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                    ruaok But I'm over it now. 
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                    rj_ yuk 
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                    rj_ back to work then ;) 
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                    ruaok I have 2 more days of .de/.nl before I head back. 
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                    rj_ cool 
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                    ruaok but I have a decent net connection to play with. 
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                    ruaok And I'm also hoping to meet with Johan in Den Haag on wednesday. 
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                    rj_ Johan? 
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                    ruaok 
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                    ruaok He helped me get MB off the ground. 
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                    ruaok Even wrote some code back in the day, but his PHD and post PHD work has kept him busy. 
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                    rj_ ahha 
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                    ruaok I'd like to run the Karma system by him since he has experience with that. 
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                    rj_ Dr. Johan then 
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                    ruaok or something like that. :-) 
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                    rj_ hmm, the tp_tagger has an interactive menu thing.. 
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                    rj_ i was hoping i can do it all thru just parameters so i can easily parse output in php 
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                    ruaok well, the tp_tagger is nothing more than a test harness. 
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                    ruaok I certainly hope you're not seriously thinking of using it for real work are you?? 
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                    rj_ i want to write a php class that tries to get a MBID for a given mp3 file 
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                    rj_ what do you suggest? 
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                    ruaok can you make C type calls to a library?? 
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                    ruaok do you need to work with more than one file at a time?? 
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                    rj_ i'm not sure, that may involve writing a php extension. it only needs to do an albums worth of files at a time, so not a lot of thruput 
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                    rj_ basically, someone ftp's an album to a folder then goes to web interface and fixes tags if requred and hits import 
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                    rj_ i want to write the MBIDs to the database when its imported, and if it doesnt exist in MB, send in the fingerprint and metadata 
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                    ruaok Hmmm. 
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                    rj_ just looking up MBID if iit exists is a good start 
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                    ruaok Yeah, you will want to talk to the tagger natively. 
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                    rj_ okay, sounds like a php extension is needed 
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                    ruaok either that or have last.fm hire me to write this code for you. :-) 
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                    rj_ heh, they cant afford to hire me, let alone anyone else 
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                    rj_ and i'm cheap :) 
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                    ruaok LOL 
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                    ruaok sounds like you want a PHP extension then. :-) 
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                    rj_ yeah.. 
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                    rj_ fun. 
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                    ruaok The docs that yalaforge has put together are pretty good. 
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                    ruaok did he point you at them?? 
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                    rj_ nope 
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                    ruaok have you ever used doxygen?? 
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                    rj_ yup 
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                    rj_ good stuff 
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                    ruaok in the sources there is a tunepimp.doxy file. 
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                    ruaok That should let you generate the docs from the source. 
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                    ruaok Should all be up to date. 
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                    rj_ cunning, thanks 
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                    ruaok np 
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                    ruaok Ok, I've got to run. 
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                    rj_ seeya 
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                    ruaok My mates want to go out for a beer. 
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                    ruaok Good talking to you again. 
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                    rj_ yeah, and you. have a good time :) 
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                    ruaok I'll post summit recaps and all that when I'm back on the wrong side of the planet. 
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                    ruaok tahnks