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      • daaavid
        what should i enter for release year if it's a rerelease of an old album that also includes bonus tracks?

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      • ArdentSi1ent
        3

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      • djce
        Personally, I'd say the year of re-release.

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      • djce
        Though that may not be the opinion of MB as a whole :-)

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      • daaavid
        but i like release years 'cause they give me a sense of music history =(

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      • daaavid
        using the re-release date would mess that up

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      • daaavid
        well, this neil guy who voted on my moderation claimed that i was breaking the guidelines by using the original release date

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      • daaavid
        but i couldn't find that particular rule on the wiki or on the webpage

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      • djce
        neil is kind of always right, almost by definition, on these things.

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      • djce
        We ask him to make up the rules that the rest of us follow, style-wise.

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      • daaavid
        oh

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      • djce
        I'd suggest you ask neil if the rule in question is actually on the web site or the wiki somewhere.

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      • djce
        if not, we'll get it added.

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      • djce
        I expect.

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      • djce
        See http://www.musicbrainz.org/bio.html, "Neil Cafferkey".

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      • djce
        (that is, as long as you're talking about the moderator called "neil". If it's someone else, all bets are off).

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      • ruaok
        5am.

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      • ruaok
        Ick.

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      • ruaok
        Groan.

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      • ruaok
        Gotta go.

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      • ruaok
        later kids!

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      • daaavid
        anyone here listen to the pixies?

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      • daaavid
        if there are several release dates for an album in the database, which one does the tagger use?

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      • djce
        daaavid: the first

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      • djce
        and I only know one Pixies song.

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      • daaavid
        i think i just found a bug

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      • daaavid
        i have an album i'm taggin that has several release dates

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      • daaavid
        it puts the first one in the list into the id3 tag and the last one in the filename

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      • birkett
        Hello.

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      • blizzow
        hello

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      • birkett
        I found a cd that I have in the database, but the trm it has for some of the tracks don't match what I get when I compute it myself. How do I add my versions?

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      • blizzow
        you can tell the tagger that your tracks are misidentified and then from the unidentified tab, select the song and click on the trm tag next to the track on the bottom pane of the tagger.

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      • birkett
        Ah - I don't have tagger because it's only avaliable for windows. Can I do the same thing on the website?

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      • blizzow
        no, but you can use the tunepimp application.

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      • blizzow
        You can download it off the site.

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      • birkett
        ok, I'll have a look at that then

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      • blizzow
        the ui sux, but it's better than nothing.

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      • birkett
        cool.

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      • birkett
        I see what you mean about the ui :-)

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      • birkett
        Is tagger likely to get ported?

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      • DcGoodYea
        hi

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      • DcGoodYea
        any musicbrainz query experts out and about?

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      • djce
        birkett: ported, yes. A cross-platform one is in the works.

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      • djce
        DcGoodYea: I'm not an expert, but I have the source, and I /might/ be able to help.

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      • birkett
        Excellent.

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      • DcGoodYea
        great, let me just try one more thing before I ask dumb questions...give me a couple mins

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      • djce
        sure

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      • birkett
        I'm trying to submit some trm id's (usign the tunepimp console client) and it's giving me "Submit error: Unknown user." whenever I try, but the username and password I gave it are the same as the ones I signed up with...

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      • djce
        birkett: check which server it's using.

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      • djce
        it might be using the test server by default.

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      • birkett
        there doesn't seem to be a command to show the server it's using, but I can change it. What's the correct server address?

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      • djce
        www.musicbrainz.org

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      • djce
        if you type "?" it shows the current options

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      • djce
        e.g. for me it says:

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      • djce
        u <server name> Use MB server (test.musicbrainz.org)

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      • djce
        (as well as lots of other output)

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      • birkett
        oh, sorry. I thought test.musicbrainz.org was an example :-)

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      • djce
        that's the current setting.

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      • djce
        remember, the UI sucks :-)

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      • birkett
        heh

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      • birkett
        you know if the windows version will work in wine? It has to be better than this...

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      • djce
        I don't know much about operating Wine. I've heard it can be done, but have no idea how.

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      • birkett
        ah. I'll give it a go.

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      • birkett
        well, it just seems to give me an error and then die, so never mind :-)

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      • DcGoodYea
        are there in examples around of query code? for example, I used the MusicBrainz.MBQ_FindArtistByName to find the artist, now I want to loop through the result set, getting each records name...

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      • DcGoodYea
        I try using MusicBrainz.MBS_SelectArtist, but that doesn't seem to be working for me

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      • djce
        I don't know offhand; I'll see what examples I can find, and get to you.

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      • DcGoodYea
        great

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      • DcGoodYea
        thnx

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      • DcGoodYea
        i figured it out djce

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      • djce
        cool.

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      • icepick
        Pipian: you around/

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      • icepick
        Pipian: another thing I would like to try is to create a CUE file from a MCDI tag

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      • icepick
        and vice versa

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      • Pipian
        I don't know the CURE file specification

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      • Pipian
        but I suspect it should not be too hard

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      • icepick
        check out cdrdao which can write a TOC file, which is a text description of the TOC

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      • Pipian
        icepick: I'll take a look and include it in another pice of discid ^_-

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      • Pipian
        hah

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      • Pipian
        found what I needed in terms of TOC data

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      • icepick
        what those mysterious bits where?

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      • Pipian
        The flags bit

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      • Pipian
        now I just need to make sure I'm shifting right

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      • Pipian
        I guess it's right

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      • Pipian
        hmm

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      • Pipian
        recreating a TOC file from the actual ToC is lossy

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      • Pipian
        because you lose the pre-gap detection

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      • Pipian
        and ISRC

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      • Pipian
        and MCN

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      • icepick
        those would be in the CD-Text fields on the cd

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      • icepick
        so yeah, it's going to be lossy

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      • Pipian
        I mean

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      • Pipian
        the only things you could keep are

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      • Pipian
        number of tracks

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      • Pipian
        POSSIBLY track offset

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      • Pipian
        [NO] COPY/EMPHASIS

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      • Pipian
        number of channels

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      • Pipian
        and AUDIO/DATA