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UserErr0r
im confused
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UserErr0r
why isnt picard writing my id3v2 tags
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SenRepus doesnt know
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SenRepus
did you yell at him? sometimes it helps, but sometimes he just gets mad. in that case, bribery i... ill shut up
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dseomn
lol
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SenRepus
between you and me, that guy can be a real douchebag. but dont tell him i said so
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dseomn
UserErr0r: don't worry, he's not reffering to you (AFAICT)
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SenRepus
im talking about picard
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SenRepus
(UE used to hang out in here a lot, dseomn)
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dseomn
ok
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dseomn
UUE hangs out in my email prog a lot
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SenRepus
so he atleast knew at one time to ignore me
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SenRepus
maybye forgot by now though
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dseomn
now he'll have to learn to ignore me too ;>
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UserErr0r
heh
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UserErr0r
yeah i used to idle here until my mirc crashed and i wasnt in a hurry to readd my 5 networks and 50 chans to autojoin
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SenRepus
at any rate, explain the problem more? it just leaves the tags as they were>
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SenRepus
?
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UserErr0r
it writes the id
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UserErr0r
er
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UserErr0r
sorry, finger slipped
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UserErr0r
it writes the id3v1 tag, even though i have that not enabled, and doesnt write the id3v2 tag (which the options says will always be written)
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luks
which version of id3v2 tags are you using?
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UserErr0r
uhhh
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UserErr0r
2.4
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luks
and are you sure your player can read that?
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UserErr0r
winamp
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luks
for example most of players can't read utf-8 tags
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UserErr0r
im guessing thats the issue
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luks
try 2.3 & latin
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UserErr0r
will try it later
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SenRepus
i use winamp too and picard worked fine when it ran
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luks
and install some better player! :p
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UserErr0r eats
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UserErr0r
and ty
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UserErr0r
(if it works, if it doesnt, then you suck)
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UserErr0r
heh
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UserErr0r
find me a better player then, with a media library and supports video
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luks
itunes
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UserErr0r
and supports video
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wolfsong
oh boy
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wolfsong
who started this whole trm vs. lucene mess?
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wolfsong
LOL
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wolfsong
i really don't understand what all the fuss is about
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ruaok
Grrr.
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ruaok gnashes his teeth.
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ruaok
I'm with you on that.
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wolfsong
i'm feeling for ya
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ruaok
Of all the people, Paul Taylor has the most valid point.
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ruaok
Losing the TRM server would invalidate his product.
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ruaok
that's bad.
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ruaok
thanks.
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wolfsong
haven't tracked it that closely... what was his point?
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ruaok
its not like I'm turning the damn thing off tomorrow, or that I am doing it out of spite.
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wolfsong
oh him
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wolfsong
well that's what i don't understand
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ruaok
he wrote Jaikoz.
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wolfsong
the original statement was that TRMs would GRADUALLY go away
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ruaok
everyone else whinning about not being able to identify test01.mp3 bugs me.
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wolfsong
i don't understand what the histerics are about
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ruaok nods vehemently
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ruaok
and I feel a bit insulted in this.
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ruaok
do people think I would intentionally make MB suck?
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ruaok
Did I not create the tagger in the first place?
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wolfsong
well your concerns about resources are equally valid
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wolfsong
it's FREEEEEE
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ruaok
You'd think that people would give me a little credit for knowing how to fix this problem.
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ruaok
ding!
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wolfsong
not a whole lot to complain about really
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ruaok
and Russ does have a good point -- we'll loose people who dont want to download 200Mb files.
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wolfsong
yeah it's not as +t
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wolfsong
... cat's typing 2
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ruaok
lol
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wolfsong
she's opinionated like her father
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DJKC
I'd chip in that I don't think track 01.mp3 is an edge case
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ruaok
I guess that should behoove me to finish off picard and show the world what lucene can do.
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wolfsong
true but i think you're right that real users will
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wolfsong
own the disc
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ruaok
DJKC: how many people do you think need that feature?
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DJKC
from stuff submitted on last.fm completely wrong or non-existant metadata is common
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wolfsong
have a fairly large library
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ruaok
how many times have you used that?
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DJKC
I can't use mb tagger
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DJKC
no unicode
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ruaok
I'll even go as far as saying this: (and this is stepping out of character)
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wolfsong
i don't have a lot of sympathy for folks who use P2P to get all their stuff
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wolfsong
maybe they should pay for MB
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ruaok
if you have a file that has incorrect or no metadata, where did you get it from? Did you get it legall? Chances are not.
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wolfsong
legit users will not have issues with lookups on Picard
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DJKC
I have legit files with incorrect and no metadata
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DJKC
collect CDs for 10 years and rip to your computer that whole time
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DJKC
you'll end up with goofy stuff
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wolfsong
but do you know what those tracks are?
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wolfsong
how many of those could you not identify?
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ruaok
wolfsong: I fully agree with all your points.
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DJKC
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DJKC
see the examples I gave shepard there
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wolfsong
and how likely is it that you have 2 "Track1.mp3" files without some sort of cataloging system
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ruaok
DJKC: I'd say that YOU are and edge case.
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DJKC
I have multiple 01_____~1.mp3, 02_____~2.mp3
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ruaok
and you can't identify them by listening to them?
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DJKC
ruaok: possibly. but "number of people that need that feature" and "number of people that need it for legal files aren't the same thing"
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wolfsong
what percentage of your collection does that make up?
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DJKC
you asked the former first
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ruaok
Also, if you look at the metadata of files in the 'wild', you'll see that metadata quality is improving.
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wolfsong
developing for every case is a fruitless endeavor
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ruaok
at first doing this without TRM would not have been possible.
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DJKC
wolfsong: 0.6% or so
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ruaok
a tiny amount.
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DJKC
600 some files
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ruaok
not worth coding/hassling for.
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wolfsong
then i still don't see why that should be a fuss if less than 1% of your 10 year collection is in this state
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DJKC
what people eject to is that the feature is already there and they're using it
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DJKC
*object
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DJKC
wee, tired
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ruaok
yes, but its near the end of its lifetime.
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wolfsong
robert didn't say it's being elliminated overnight
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ruaok
works today, but it won't be working too well 6 months from now.
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ruaok
I guarantee you that if I didn't have a new solution in place when TRM starts sucking for real, people would be jumping all over my shit.
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ruaok
:-)
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DJKC
heh
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wolfsong
and if the resources can't support it MB has a bigger problem struggling to support it
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ruaok
wolfsong: thanks for stopping by and chiming in. You're making me feel loads better.
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wolfsong
np
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wolfsong
i should get my ass on here more often
