#musicbrainz

im confused

why isnt picard writing my id3v2 tags

did you yell at him? sometimes it helps, but sometimes he just gets mad. in that case, bribery i... ill shut up

lol

between you and me, that guy can be a real douchebag. but dont tell him i said so

UserErr0r: don't worry, he's not reffering to you (AFAICT)

(UE used to hang out in here a lot, dseomn)

ok

UUE hangs out in my email prog a lot

so he atleast knew at one time to ignore me

maybye forgot by now though

now he'll have to learn to ignore me too ;>

heh

yeah i used to idle here until my mirc crashed and i wasnt in a hurry to readd my 5 networks and 50 chans to autojoin

at any rate, explain the problem more? it just leaves the tags as they were>

?

it writes the id

er

sorry, finger slipped

it writes the id3v1 tag, even though i have that not enabled, and doesnt write the id3v2 tag (which the options says will always be written)

which version of id3v2 tags are you using?

uhhh

2.4

and are you sure your player can read that?

winamp

for example most of players can't read utf-8 tags

im guessing thats the issue

try 2.3 & latin

will try it later

i use winamp too and picard worked fine when it ran

and install some better player! :p

and ty

(if it works, if it doesnt, then you suck)

heh

find me a better player then, with a media library and supports video

itunes

and supports video

oh boy

who started this whole trm vs. lucene mess?

LOL

i really don't understand what all the fuss is about

Grrr.

I'm with you on that.

i'm feeling for ya

Of all the people, Paul Taylor has the most valid point.

Losing the TRM server would invalidate his product.

that's bad.

thanks.

haven't tracked it that closely... what was his point?

its not like I'm turning the damn thing off tomorrow, or that I am doing it out of spite.

oh him

well that's what i don't understand

he wrote Jaikoz.

the original statement was that TRMs would GRADUALLY go away

everyone else whinning about not being able to identify test01.mp3 bugs me.

i don't understand what the histerics are about

and I feel a bit insulted in this.

do people think I would intentionally make MB suck?

Did I not create the tagger in the first place?

well your concerns about resources are equally valid

it's FREEEEEE

You'd think that people would give me a little credit for knowing how to fix this problem.

ding!

not a whole lot to complain about really

and Russ does have a good point -- we'll loose people who dont want to download 200Mb files.

yeah it's not as +t

... cat's typing 2

lol

she's opinionated like her father

I'd chip in that I don't think track 01.mp3 is an edge case

I guess that should behoove me to finish off picard and show the world what lucene can do.

true but i think you're right that real users will

own the disc

DJKC: how many people do you think need that feature?

from stuff submitted on last.fm completely wrong or non-existant metadata is common

have a fairly large library

how many times have you used that?

I can't use mb tagger

no unicode

I'll even go as far as saying this: (and this is stepping out of character)

i don't have a lot of sympathy for folks who use P2P to get all their stuff

maybe they should pay for MB

if you have a file that has incorrect or no metadata, where did you get it from? Did you get it legall? Chances are not.

legit users will not have issues with lookups on Picard

I have legit files with incorrect and no metadata

collect CDs for 10 years and rip to your computer that whole time

you'll end up with goofy stuff

but do you know what those tracks are?

how many of those could you not identify?

wolfsong: I fully agree with all your points.

see the examples I gave shepard there

and how likely is it that you have 2 "Track1.mp3" files without some sort of cataloging system

DJKC: I'd say that YOU are and edge case.

I have multiple 01_____~1.mp3, 02_____~2.mp3

and you can't identify them by listening to them?

ruaok: possibly. but "number of people that need that feature" and "number of people that need it for legal files aren't the same thing"

what percentage of your collection does that make up?

you asked the former first

Also, if you look at the metadata of files in the 'wild', you'll see that metadata quality is improving.

developing for every case is a fruitless endeavor

at first doing this without TRM would not have been possible.

wolfsong: 0.6% or so

a tiny amount.

600 some files

not worth coding/hassling for.

then i still don't see why that should be a fuss if less than 1% of your 10 year collection is in this state

what people eject to is that the feature is already there and they're using it

*object

wee, tired

yes, but its near the end of its lifetime.

robert didn't say it's being elliminated overnight

works today, but it won't be working too well 6 months from now.

I guarantee you that if I didn't have a new solution in place when TRM starts sucking for real, people would be jumping all over my shit.

:-)

heh

and if the resources can't support it MB has a bigger problem struggling to support it

wolfsong: thanks for stopping by and chiming in. You're making me feel loads better.

np

i should get my ass on here more often