#musicbrainz

I don't suppose anybody in here is a synthpop/a different drum label fan, are they?

i like freezepop

Well, I do listen to synthpop sometimes.

I'm trying to find an artist, because I'm hesitant to add them

On the 'The Fixx / An Electronic Tribute' album. There's an artist (who RULES by the way) named 'Kiss the Star' and so far as I can figure out, they're exlusive to the tribute CD

i.e. a tribute band for a tribute CD

Kiss the Star has no amazon matches, no discogs matches, no matches on A.D.D.'s website other than their track on this album

no problem that

Kiss The Star was born in April 2002 by combining the vocal talents of Megan Erben (formerly of Faith Assembly) and Craig Smidt's (Cats Last Dance) song writing craftsmanship. The band was created from the New Wave/Synthpop genre and is influenced by both the Goth and Electronic/Industrial genres. In January of 2004 Jeff Harper (Intervox) joined Kiss the Star on keyboards and programming.....

...With Megan's edgy vocals and Jeff's dark aura backed by an updated sound, Kiss The Star has put the "pop" back into the scene.

:p

that's alot of info mud

:p

Where'd you find that Mudcrow ?

...

bahahahaha

why oh why didn't I do that in the first place

well, regardless, they still have no releases

so?

'cept this song (Secret Separation)

so I guess I'm adding them

do you *know* how many artists we have that only have a VA album to theit name=

+

atleast you're trying to research

it's the mailing list with gravatars!

we have artists with no releases, but are just used for artist relationships

gravatars suck. favatars forever

aviators fly

heh

haha

you have to have a website for favatars though

don't you?

luks?

i think freezepop is from around here (boston)

i don't like them much

but i have a few friends who do

GURT, yeah, you do. it goes to your favicon.ico

though, you don't HAVE to have a website. like a subdomain with little freespace, or even livejournal can give you the ability to have a favicon

favicons are cool

uhhhhh

is the time (track length) attribute locked or something?

indeed it is

readonly is set

how am I supposed to submit a new track length mod?

it's locked on albums with a discid

has anyone seen ruaok lately?

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anyone polish?

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n8 mo

Is there any way to get picard to auto group incoming files into the folders they would already be in?

That would make things SOOOOOO much easier

nope

might want to request it as an enhancement

Will do

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hmmm

is the old musicbrainz tagger 'secretly' compatible with flac files?

don't think so

but picard is

i had been using the old tagger to tag flac for a long time

as long as i can remember, really

yeah

I've started with my FLAC collection

it works, though I keep getting ntdll.dll errors

weird

i don't remember having problems

but yeah, the original tagger works on flac

i've been using picard since 0.5, though

and OGG Vorbis normal IIRC

no APE though (good riddance)

i've never had any reason to use ape

I don't know why I don't just transcode my album or two from ape to flac

since when do you know grammar?

howdy folks

hi tga

I'd like to identify given clips in an audio stream

given variations in volume and all I can't just look for identical data

would libmusicbrainz be of any help?

not really

what would then?

no idea

musicbrainz current fingerprinting system only works with complete files

and i don't know any system that would allow the identification of arbitrary sound snippets

there's some research stuff at USC that is designed to identify music clips

i think it's windows only, and is available for download, source code too (i think). let me llok

tga: here's one http://imsc.usc.edu/research/project/crirmusic/...

tga: although i'd poke around on the entire imsc.usc.edu site....

interesting, thanks for the tip

welcome

some of these projects are multi-year heavily funded research projects. I've found the staff to be really helpful with questions/queries though.

Fraunhofer has such a system running, but it's not available for end users (meaning they probably just couldn't afford to buy a license) ;)

fraunhofer has good stuff too, but it is expensive. the IMSC is mostly National Science Foundation (NSF), and other gov't agencies. so as long it's not targeted towards a specific defense/military application, access is reasonable

reasonable == often free

there's other, similar projects at Univ. of Colorado. let me see if i can find them

there are a couple of servies out there that identify music snippets

I'd like to do something slightly different - find specific short clips in a live stream

it looks like it's somewhat more complicated than I first assumed

tga: that's a huge area of research here, gov't research mostly (for obvious reasons)

tga: many of the sites have been pulled off the web (after 9/11). here's some work you may interesting at stanford: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/

here's the software: http://ccrma.stanford.edu/planetccrma/software/

have fun! later folks

do we have a way to recording the folowing data: Composer's Op. number or BWV number etc., which edition of the work this is, date of publication, date of premiere, date (range) of composition ??

not to mention, how do we distinuish the orginal release date of an album from the date of the CD release, etc?

Op and BWV are part of the title for classical works

other info has to go in an annotation

but i need to be able to *sort* by all these figures :(

(that's their chief usefulness)

i guess you're out of luck unless you feel like writing some kind of parser

not really, i can enter the info manually for the tracks that matter to me personally if only the fields are available

we'll have to handle this data eventually

ojnkpjg what's better is if we have a system to enter lists of works for composers

complete with publication dates etc.

and then have players able to lookup and sort this info based on the title/catalogue number

that'd require a totally different database structure

well no, a 2nd separate database i suppose

i don't really know much about databases

well, there is a classical style guide wiki page

maybe you could post your ideas somewhere there

yeah ok, i'm just asking because i don't realy understand this AR stuff