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      • DraX
        i'm working on a FreeBSD port for picard... and I have a question about which web browser should be required... I was thinking of requiring lynx if firefox is not installed, but would it be better to require firefox but allow the user to request to not use firefox (and then require lynx)?
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      • flamingcow
        freebsd doesn't have an /etc/alternatives/www-browser ?
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      • DraX
        no..
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      • DraX
        and as far as i can tell python's webbrowser module doesn't use anything like that either
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      • flamingcow
        lame
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      • DraX
        and it seems picard doesn't use that either
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      • DraX
        oh i see it's a web browser launching script, silly.
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      • DraX
        flamingcow: and python's webbrowser on debian doesn't even seem to use that.
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      • nechto13
        ruoak: are you around?
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      • SenRepus
        |O (<--- yawn)
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      • catmo
        ruaok there is no way we're integrating a browser into the tagger again. <--- why? if I may ask a dumb question?
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      • inhouseuk
        mo: that would only be possible on windows, remember picard runs on different operating systems
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      • warp
        inhouseuk: i expect most operating systems have some API to embed a browser.
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      • inhouseuk
        possibly, but probably nothing standardised
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      • warp
        true.
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      • inhouseuk
        it's far easier to launch the browser as a separate process outside the application and also in that way you're not worried about the browser that is being used
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      • luks
        and also integrated browser always will be limited in some way
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      • luks
        for example i like to have a lot of tabs open, when i'm tagging albums
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      • nechto13
        currently the track title is limited to 255 characters what if i want to put in a track title, which is longer than that, what should i do?
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      • warp
        that sounds like a pretty scary tracktitle
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      • nechto13
        i don't think there is any way to shorten it though
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      • warp
        can you paste it? i'm curious :)
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      • nechto13
        link to the album, obviously track 3 http://www.ozon.ru/context/detail/id/1042819/
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      • warp
        yikes
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      • luks
        hm
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      • luks
        !length Я принимаю участие в научном споре между доктором филологических наук профессором Б.А. Бяликом и действительным членом Академии наук С.Л. Соболевым по вопросу о том, может ли машина мыслить
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      • BrainzBot
        luks: 346
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      • nechto13
        trasnaltion: i participate in a discussion between a doctor of philological sciences B.A. Bialik and a real member of academy of sciences S.L. Sobolev on the question of whether a machine is capable of thinking
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      • nechto13
        &translation
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      • nechto13
        *translation
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      • inhouseuk
        ouch!
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      • inhouseuk
        all you can do at the moment is put the full title in the annotation
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      • nechto13
        i bet no one tried to put in the full title for any of this songs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_with_p…
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      • nechto13
        the ones over 255 symbols that is
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      • juhae
        Hmm. Mysterious.
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      • juhae
        I parsed track times to an album add, but they disappeared after completing the add.
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      • juhae
        Ahha. It's prolly because minutes and seconds are separated with a "." instead of a ":"
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      • juhae
        So they're properly moved into their boxes but apparently won't get added because of the wrong separator :)
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      • Mudcrow
        yep, which is a tad annoying
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      • juhae
        Yup, a bit counter-intuitive
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      • juhae
        Btw, Mudcrow, do you happen to own any Amebix videos?
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      • Mudcrow
        the punk band? no
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      • juhae
        Hmm, okay.
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      • juhae
        I have their supposedly "last concert" live tape, but it's of so bad quality I'm trying to track down a better copy of it
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      • Mudcrow
        I have a Disrupters video :)
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      • juhae
        And it's not even a VHS but a badly done divx encode
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      • Mudcrow
        i've never come across any Amebix videos, but then I've never really looked
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      • juhae
        And I'm slowly trying to start a "punk video restoration project" which aims to digitalize all kind of classic stuff before the analog tapes destroy themselves
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      • juhae
        I've seen the same video on sale at a few distros, but I kind of don't feel like paying for possibly horrible quality :)
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      • juhae
        Especially since some jerks seem to make money out of selling "rarities" like that :/
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      • Mudcrow
        have you tried contacting any ex members? most of the old punk bands i talk to go out of there way to help you get hold of stuff (without paying rip off prices)
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      • juhae
        Actually, no. Some time ago I found Baron (the vocalist/bassplayer) from the 'net, he's living on some island in Northern UK and making swords nowadays :)
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      • Mudcrow
        Isle of Skye (I just read that ) :)
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      • juhae
        Yep :)
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      • Mudcrow
        they toured a lot with Deviated Instinct, Mid may have a contact. I'll see if I can find Mids address
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      • juhae
        But dunno how much of "please send me all your rare copies" emails he gets every day :)
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      • Mudcrow
        Mid (ex Devaited Instinct) email is bonehive at hotmail.com . dont know if thats still valid. he may have a contact for Amebix
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      • juhae
        Cheers, I'll ask him
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      • juhae
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      • juhae
        Those three are screenshots from the video, as you can see the quality *could* be better :)
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      • Mudcrow
        is that the same vid as http://www.myspace.com/amebixband
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      • juhae
        Yup, seems so
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      • juhae
        In higher resolution though
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      • juhae
        It's in full PAL DVD resolution, 720x480
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      • juhae
        bah, NTSC of course, 29,97 frames per second :)
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      • juhae
        I'll prolly try to edit a dvd out of that one too, do some minor post-processing on it or something
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      • juhae
        If you want a copy whenever it's done, I can send you one
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      • Mudcrow
        thanks but no, I was never a big fan of Amebix's later stuff
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      • juhae
        Yup, I understand, a friend of mine is like that too :)
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      • juhae
        "Too heavy metal" or so
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      • Mudcrow
        sort of too heavy, and too much crap from about that time.
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      • Mudcrow
        a lot of the crust bands alienated a lot of punks with their attitude
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      • Mudcrow
        lots of stupid things were said and done. I think I still have a cartoon that Steve Disrupter did for a fanzine of a crusty bathing in mud (I think it was meant to be one of Deviated Instinct), I thought it was really funny, but DI were really pissed off about it
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      • juhae
        And lead us to the present situation where we have simply too much of generic crust bands, all looking and sounding exactly the same, and still not being as (kind of) innovative as their 80's predecessors were
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      • Mudcrow
        also lead to the present situation of all this crap about what is a punk band, and what to eat/drink/wear to be a punk.
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      • Muz{away}
        The answer to all three is "Shit"
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      • Muz{away}
        Muz{away} is now known as mustaqila
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      • mustaqila
        Stupid mIRC
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      • Mudcrow
        I remember a early Deviated Instinct gig, where the lead singer of one of the bands playing slagged off people wearing leather jackets, not a wise thing to do when the gig is packed with leather studded chaos punks. That ened in a massive fight
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      • juhae
        hehheh
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      • juhae
        Same thing was rather common some ten years ago when vegan/sxe bands were quite popular
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      • juhae
        Half of the playtime goes to preaching the crowd how they shouldn't wear leather ;)
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      • Mudcrow
        I still have most of my leather Jackets, I've had my Conflict/Revulsion leather jacket for 21 years now, I love it, even though it looking a bit tattered now
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      • nikki_ yawns
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      • mustaqila
        Mornin' Nikki
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      • juhae
        Hmm, off to buy cheap macaroni (10 750g packages for 1e!)
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      • luks
        eek, someone started translating picard to Polish :)
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      • luks
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      • nikki_
        moin
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      • catmo
        how can anything be 'too heavy metal' ???
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      • catmo
        the mind boggles
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      • mustaqila
        With screamier, higher pitched, ball grabbingly high vocals, stupidly fast riff smashing guitar work and ear deafening super speeded double bass drumming!
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      • mustaqila
        How else mo?!
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      • catmo
        :)
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      • mustaqila :: Judas Priest - Painkiller "Painkiller" is the first thing that comes to mind for me
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      • mustaqila
        It's all relative ; )
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      • catmo ♡
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      • catmo
        Judas Priest \m/
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      • mustaqila so needs to update mIRC for unicode goodness
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      • catmo
        ja
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      • catmo
        or use xchat
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      • mustaqila
        I have all my scripts and ssuch set up on mIRC though