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      • inhouseuk
        Nyght: you could always attempt the search on my server
      • teleGUISE
        old search problems? huh.. good thing ru isn't around ;) .. i use the old search all the time and haven't noticed a problem
      • Nyght
        Thanks, I think I will try! Because the names don't go deep enough for half of the songs. So, I'm catching "half" of them and there's still a huge number that I know are slipping through.
      • inhouseuk
        unless you are looking for old mods
      • Nyght
        and should I just go to Various artists for the multi-track nightmares?
      • teleGUISE
        you mean track edit mods that time out?
      • Nyght
      • track level searches timing out teleGUISE
      • teleGUISE
        Nyght: i think tele said that here : teleGUISE>you mean track edit mods that time out? :D
      • inhouseuk
        ah! in that case you couldn't do them on a slave server
      • Nyght
        well, that's not the mod timing out, it's the search to find the tracks to edit them
      • :( dang
      • teleGUISE
        yea yea... you know what i meant, brat!
      • Nyght sniffs
      • Nyght is pouting
      • Nyght
        eh.. perhaps but you got me in a feisty mood.. ;)
      • nikki_
        aww!
      • Nyght
        did you see my threat about going to classical next?
      • after I fully defrag my machine I'll see if it still does it. It used to work all the time.
      • teleGUISE
        thats ok with me.. that means i will not have to vote on any of your edits for awhile then... besides you'll be an automod by then .. so no worries here ;)
      • Nyght
        Hey, there's still chances for that to fail. ;)
      • teleGUISE
        well you should know :)
      • Nyght
        you could talk everyone into switching their votes. :)
      • teleGUISE
        true... what kind of good rotten dirt can i drum up on ya ;)?
      • Nyght
        show them how much of an ass I am.
      • You have tons of chat logs you can dig up and post on the wiki
      • teleGUISE
        ahh i got it.. I'll them you like CHEVY'S heeee
      • Nyght
        oh wait, others might support me for being an ass to you. :D
      • Hey! I resemble that remark!
      • teleGUISE
        true.. someone has to be.. g0llum has been too busy lately to give me shit daily ;)-
      • inhouse and nikki do a good job filling in occasionally though ;)-
      • inhouseuk puts on his innocent face
      • Nyght
        Yeah and he was telling me to pick on you more!
      • Nyght believes inhouseuk
      • teleGUISE
        yea sure.. your just trying to get me to pick on him for you!
      • Nyght
        we are all innocent until proven guilty
      • "you're not in trouble unless you get caught" <--- quotes aladdin
      • I'm in trouble!
      • LOL I can pick very well myself thank you!
      • teleGUISE
        I know you can first hand.. but i can tell you like to start trouble and then sit in the corner and snicker ;)
      • Nyght
        LOL Damn, found out!
      • inhouseuk
        Nyght: it's the same face I use with my wife, when I've forgotten to do something she asked me to do
      • Nyght
        I don't have that face. I just have the puppy dog eyes that say please?
      • <---doies not pull off innocence well
      • teleGUISE
        especially since don't you have to respond to everything with "yes, dear", "ok , dear" .. so you can't use the I didnt hear you ask me to do that excuse.. because she would say well you said yes, ok :)
      • Nyght snickers
      • Nyght
        I think you should have an ear outside of the earplugs. It might help
      • inhouseuk
        teleGUISE: at least she now writes the shopping list in English instead of Russian
      • teleGUISE
        inhouseuk: ooh boy.. that had to be interesting.. I would have come home with all kinds of the wrong things
      • inhouseuk
        I did!
      • teleGUISE
        in that case i would have printed up a little book of stickers that she could use to paste the picture on the list for you
      • inhouseuk
        hah! it was easier to just go shopping together
      • teleGUISE
        there you go! no mistakes blamed on you for that anymore
      • inhouseuk: when making a http request for example to like Musicbrainz for a search that causes the server to take a long time, what prevents further http requests from being handled simultaneously? what does it look for? i know opening another browser negates that
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      • Joan_W
        I can think of nothing worse than to go shopping (which I hate with a passion). Oh yes I can - go shopping with my husband
      • teleGUISE
        hey there apostrophe lady ;)
      • Joan_W
        hey tele
      • inhouseuk
        Joan_W: I'm shocked!
      • Joan_W
        why so?
      • inhouseuk
        I thought all ladies enjoyed shopping
      • Joan_W
        I think Jim only married me because I was the only woman he met who took just five minutes to buy a pair of shoes
      • inhouseuk
        especially when their husband is paying
      • teleGUISE
        wow .. i think that is a women's world record
      • Joan_W
        doesn't matter who is paying - I think shopping is the biggest waste of time ever
      • teleGUISE
        and are you going to tell me you actually have <=50 pairs, too!?
      • Joan_W
        maybe 12 - a total of one hour of my life wasted - I mnuch prefer bare feet, but not very practical
      • though I drive without shoes
      • inhouseuk
        teleGUISE: is that with firefox? I think it's a threading issue
      • teleGUISE
        inhouseuk: yes.. if the server is busy lolli gagging a request.. another tab in FF say viewing my open edits, parses about 1/2 the page and halts until the other request is received.. yet if i open ie at the same time that is happening, i can view the same result
      • luks has quit
      • that is, i can view the same 'full' result of my viewing of open edits
      • inhouseuk
        teleGUISE: yes, I've seen it. It's very annoying
      • teleGUISE
        so it is this end software related and nothing to do with mb server/router etc.. limiting multiple requests then
      • Nyght
        if you have a live track, but not the whole bootleg, it should be a non album track yes?
      • teleGUISE
        if its on a known bootleg you should add the bootleg...usually..
      • Nyght
        It's not. ;)
      • Joan_W
        assistance please. I want to enter a double CD. Unfortunately, I loaned it out a couple of years ago and so do not have a cover to check. I have looked at Amazon and Freedb and although all tracks are listed, they all have an annotation alongside saying which band the singer was with when the track was recorded. Do I include these?
      • teleGUISE
        well then why did you say not the 'whole bootleg'
      • that may sound like something that should go in the album annotation area
      • inhouseuk
        teleGUISE: yes, I've seen it with other sites as well. I actually first noticed it when I was following the Ukrainian election and most of their news websites were swamped.
      • Joan_W
        the information about other bands might be relevant as the CD is called "Anthology"
      • teleGUISE
        inhouseuk: so it might be a little of both then you think? I know there is the network.http max connections etc.etc.. setting but obviously 2 requests is a far cry from hitting even the default limit
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      • inhouseuk
        I think it's more of a problem that firefox can't issue another request before it has got a response from one that is already pending.
      • Nyght
        See, songs like that teleGUISE (about those laying around my hard drive. :D )
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      • teleGUISE
        joan_w thats hard to say.. I know for exmaple when working on Richard Cheese which does cover songs of other artists it was debated whether the other artist name should be included
      • Joan_W
        was a conclusion reached?
      • The problem here is that they are not covers. He actually sang them when he was with Uriah Heep and other bands. On his solo album, he is rehashing them and crediting the bands he was with at the time
      • teleGUISE
        no :) I guess i shouldn't have used the term 'debated' i asked and nobody had a definite answer
      • Joan_W
        I personally don't think it is relevant. It is a solo album, which should probably be listed under compilations, and it doesn't really matter who he was with when he recorded them before
      • teleGUISE
        i didnt include them in that case just because i felt that it really isn't part of the title and not really an attribute
      • Joan_W
        that's good enough for me - a consensus of two will do it every time
      • teleGUISE
        i mean that information is nice to know, however unfortunately we don't have a place to put it and don't think part of the title is the place
      • Joan_W
        I agree and as there are 35 tracks, it is definitely too large for an annotation, although I might say that he "recorded the following songs whilst with" and then list the four bands in question.
      • teleGUISE
        i guess if you feel ambitious you could notate all that in the annotation so it's available if ever a way to use it or for people viewing it via the web search
      • Joan_W
        whenever you ask if I am feeling ambitious, I take that as a dare and do it. Too late tonight - will do it tomorrow.
      • teleGUISE
        no! by no means did i want you to feel that way.. ill lean whichever way you want me to answer ;)
      • Joan_W
        only joking tele - I find your comments on my mods very constructive and if they lead me on to do different things, that is only to the good
      • teleGUISE
        but if you must i'd just put Tracks 1,4,7,10,14 originally recorded w/Foo Bar, Tracks 2,3,5,8 originally recorded w/Bar Foo .. or something along those lines
      • Nyght
        ah just ignore him. ;)
      • he doesn't know what he's talking about...
      • Joan_W
        ;} actually this time he is right. Far less work doing it that way - suggestion accepted
      • teleGUISE
        seee... neener neener neener .. or however that would be spelled to you Beth :D
      • Nyght
        LOL
      • Nyght bites the tongue that's wagging
      • Joan_W
        ouch
      • Nyght
        he was wagging it Joan
      • besides he's been baiting me all evening. (though I enjoy it)
      • Joan_W
        beth - he's a man - what else do you expect!
      • he is, isn't he?
      • teleGUISE
        oooh.. found evidence of that i had once used "Cat #:" instead of the full spelling "Catalog #:" better cover that up :)
      • and ignores the bashing about him and men for the moment ;)-
      • Joan_W
        wise
      • Nyght
        I already found that.. I'll have to start stealing credit for it with my name. :D
      • yes, it's part of the reason he's so fun to tease Joan
      • Joan_W
        reading the chat logs, I would say he gives as good as he gets
      • teleGUISE that though i very can recieve and dish back on my own ... no other male has spoke up and joined in the festivities... You wimps :D
      • teleGUISE
        i/well
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      • Joan_W
        hi nechto13
      • nechto13
        hello Joan_W, how are the cats? :) or how's it going?
      • teleGUISE
        errr... You've got be KIDDING... just recieved a mod note mail in my bulk box from you Nyght!
      • Joan_W
        the cats are doing fine - in fact I will have to move one in a few minutes if I want to go to bed tonight
      • teleGUISE
        regarding the same edit the other note went into my normal box! http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4712624 (normal box), http://musicbrainz.org/showmod.html?modid=4712550 (bulk box)
      • nechto13
        hello everyone else
      • can someone remind me if i should add url ARs to the actual person or to their alias?
      • *alias=stage name
      • Joan_W
        to their performing name
      • if that is what the album is released as
      • nechto13
        my particular case is Elsa Lunghini, who performs under Elsa
      • Nyght
        teleGUISE: It's seen me as a spammer, what can I say?
      • nechto13
        alright i'll add the wiki page under Elsa
      • teleGUISE
        hmmm... this is different Bulk Mail header has - Received: from unknown (HELO xprdmx17.nwk.excite.com) , Normal box mail has - Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain)
      • inhouseuk
        hmm! "HELO localhost.localdomain" somebody has got something badly configured
      • Joan_W
        nechto - just had a quick look at the wiki page and it is showing both her real name and performing name. Maybe add under both
      • teleGUISE
        i dont recall seeing that happen before.. but why would that be the one that was received correctly?
      • inhouseuk
        teleGUISE: you have my email addy? Can you forward those onto me with complete headers and I'll see if I can determine where the problem is
      • teleGUISE
        geesh.. just noticed the bulk box doesnt have a 'select action' marked as read etc...
      • inhouseuk: you [at thatdomain] , right :)
      • inhouseuk
        yup, the same address I use on the mailing lists
      • teleGUISE
        spamsteve [at hishouse.co.uk] :)
      • inhouseuk
        that's the one
      • :)
      • teleGUISE
        you want just those 2 or more?
      • inhouseuk
        just those 2 to start, one that was identified as spam and one that wasn't
      • teleGUISE
        and should i forward them as an attachment or inline text?
      • nechto13
        Joan_W: that would certainly settle any confusion, especially if we had multiple artists called Elsa. discogs lists only 2. thanks