#musicbrainz

right, and it doesn't seem to matter if you have twenty tabs open, not in mb, or are.

I just don't notice it normally because I think I'm so much happier with it than with IE.

I'll have to try that freemem thing again. (or whatever it was, Most dont usualy work well

geh, okay, there's a lack of apostrophe for Joan. ;)

I also am not sure what we see is "exactly" leakage either.. though obviously it appears to be.. however just cuz Task Manager shows memory usage up one can't "say" that it's leaking. (though again in this case it seems it is) FF could also reserve some/that memory after it was needed but could/might allow it to free up when not needed

FF leak badly enough on OS X that it can become unuseable for complex tasks

hmmm.. even on OS X.. wow

I don't believe so, because when you go down to a single page, no java, it should free up.

it's worst on osx

best on windows ime.

i would have thought things were sloppy on one platform.. seems kind of odd that it was multi... that would seem to imply "really" bad coding practices.. Which is kind of scary if true

true, especially on mac. I give them a hard time, but it's just teasing. Their coding is generally tighter and such

there are deer park versions that have been improved for OS X , but it's just safer for me to use Safari or Camino for daily tasks. I have FF completely freeze my machine. it can use all residual memeory if you don't keep an eye on it.

and keeping the process manager or a term window open just for one app, is ridiculous

also you would think from what Im aware Mac OSX doesnt have the issues with "dependency" files like XP does leaving a bad library file to be partly the blame.. (though i guess every OS does at some point)

bah. allergies suck!

teleGUISE: i haven't bothered to expend teh energy to track down the specific FF issue(s) on OS X. but it's well-known probelm. no other application i use on OS X has this kind of mem leak.

windows == pure evil

nyght: but even Windozer by design doesn't immediately free up memory/resources when through... it keeps them "for the off chance" it might need them again and is "supposed" to free them if something else needs them

i find it telling that when apple hired away a dozen mozilla developers to write them a browser, they chose to use kde's khtml to do it with, even though that meant rewriting all the GUI code

and not the very mozilla codebase those very same people had just spent several years immersed in (and some of them still work on it on the side)

True, windows is garbage, no one disputes that. :D (Thankfully, I think I would gag! )

it's possible that teh FF developers are highly competent *nix coders, but they certainly don't understand the nuances of OS X. some of teh stuff they do is unnecessary in OS X.

you'll be able to use that on windows soon enough

yllona: there's a lot of that, there is also a lot of "my turf, no you cant submit a patch" crap and politics

Lauri, the five disc set is done. There was some mistakes, and thank you for your offer. If you happen (or your kids) on any of the others, I will say thank you in advance to getting those liners as well. :D

lauri yes. i agree. it's the "too many cooks in the kitchen" paradigm, or even closer "too many chiefs and not enough indians"

it is very difficult to get fixes into large parts of that codebase, and it shows in the results, imho (and they dont like _us_ at all, dirk mueller, who practically wrote half of khtml himself, took two _years_ to get a commit account in mozilla cvs)

nyght: sad thing is win xp could be a decent OS (didnt say great) being it finally was designed around semi standard practices.. it's just they get Microcrapisided

and he still has to have every patch approved

heh, no, i am a programmer, = is an assignment, == means "equals"

i cant help it :(

it crashes every two minutes => mem leaks gone

I agree teleGUISE, they could get rid of half the bloatware (most people don't even use) and tighten up the coding and I imagine it would be great

yala: :)

i am just not used to talking to actual humans on irc, only geeks :)

(or ooh, it wasnt even me who did it that time, hahah)

thank you lauri for your programmers input. ;)

LOL yalaforge

I'm not 'human" I'm a geek, just not as geekish as everyone else here.

and there are diffrent varieties of geek, too. not just technical types.

yeah the == equal was fun when I started to learn C coming from machine code & basic ... Equal was equal and 'not' was not

most good jazz musicians are hardcore geeks, just not about technology. tho several are technology geeks too.

role playing people, for example

i'd say at this point that Nyght has become a full-blown disney geek :P

nyght: i am always doing that on other channels and having to explain (also, s/typo/correction/, and other dumb shorthand like that)

when someone comments, i just assume it was me who isnt making any sense :)

yllona: whimpers yeah.. factoids no one needs to know ;)

nyght: daughters found two of the discs, sans covers, and the box

It took me a bit of time for the s/typo/correction, but I got it without explanation.

Nyght: don't forget the trailing slash :-)

I tend to prefer my typo=typofix but, it'll have to change to typo = = typofix

;)

except young children. i have a god-daughter that can tell you anything you've ever wanted to know about shrek or the little mermaid (and then some) :-D

heh, yeah, nothing like getting your psuedo-sed corrected by pedants

lauri ;>/

lauri: originally it was an ed command :-P

yllona: i expect she would get along just _fine_ with my youngest

ah, yes, the code might crash. :D

ed would look at it and say '?'.

yllona: thanks... :) but, no thansk!

:D

yalaforge: yes, but ed would look at practically everything and say '?

'

lauri: no, it's not quite that bad :-)

(i managed to mostly avoid that, i am also proud of making this year 18 years working in IT and only knowing two vi commands, and both of them are how to quit it)

tsk, tsk.

also, "hit esc until it beeps, then you can type"

they of course talk like a duck and at least half of the other disney characters. to a perfection. They speak dwarven, and princess and they wear jimminy cricket glasses teleGUISE

unless some twit has turned the bell off in the terminal, then i am done for

I feel like ed sometimes...

there's nothing worse than beeping terminals ...

nikki_: :-)

because I can't hear it anyway

yes there is, non beeping ones when i am trying to use vi

don't get me to rant about people here at the uni. don't know a thing about unix, and guess what you can hear all the time?

heh

beep, beep, beep from dozends of computers at the same time!

s/d//

hello everyone

does the volumenumberstyle guideline still apply to russian albums? obiously the word volume is in russian

argh. deleted the wrong 'd'

why would it change for Russian? Only oriental gets special circumstances. ;)

heh

good noon nechto13

Nyght: just japanese

Oh speaking of volume.... just received a mail from someone whom was trying to change all the "Volume" to "vol" in a certain (non) english series

yalaforge: I'll lend you my ears then ;)

hi nechto13

Oh, my bad... s/oriental/Japanese/

nyght the guideline does say "Volumen" is allowed

there fixed. ;)

well yeah, but same layout, right?

Nyght: most of russia is in asia ;) but what about if the album title ends with a punctuation sigh? i assume i don't put a comma after it

use the swedish conventions in hte title, as we do not use as in english. Only large cap. on first in sentenses, also on releases of music.

And becouse it is a swedish release, I use the term "volym" instead of "Volume". Also according to the style guide, if I understod it correctly.

nikki_: you can be the helpful girl who knows CTRL-Q ;-)

I gather "volym" is acceptable then, correct?

or the helpful girl who knows both!!

hum, i change those to volume when i import them

i also change "med" to "feat" and other stuff like that

never had anyone complain...

I whistle innocently and go back to writing ruby

hmmm.. well being it's ok for Spanish it should be ok for Swedish..

oh, interesting stuff?

lol, i am asking, in case i have been doing it wrong all this time

cos i'll have a whole load of albums to go change if thats the case

alright, then if the album title ends with a punctuation sign, i don't put a comma after it, right?

http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/pre/moderator... ... I hope they are ok.. cuz...

yalaforge: was that to me?

nikki_: yup

hmm... interesting enough!

MB related?

nope!

nechto13: correct no you don't

nikki_: ok :-)

thanks teleGUISE

anyone know what "Inledning (sketch/musik)" is?? and should it retain the forward slash?

inledning == lead in, sketch == sketch, musik == music

ok, that was very literal, it is "introduction" i suppose

in simple english (intro) :) ?

sketch as in comedy sketch

hee... i gues so... so then the forward slash probably should be removed from the edit it seems

eddie meduza is a comedy artist, sort of like.... hmmm

like some comedian who sings funny songs :)

weird al if he did occasional funny bits in between the songs