IMO it is last.fm problem and since both current setup and swapping will not fix it completely it should be left as it is now.
2006-06-01 15252, 2006
Nyght reading
2006-06-01 15229, 2006
Nyght
I don't know a ton about last fm, save that they don't handle artists with the same name well at all. Even after the artists have been separated on MB. (I'll give you a good example to post.) I think you did good research and I think you offered them a fair solution of making the edits themselves and you would vote yes on them
Well, yeah, if he's up to it I guess I'll vote. I just wish to emphatize that this will most likely break another part of last.fm listing: group members.
It wont break anything... last fm can't deal with artists named the same thing
2006-06-01 15256, 2006
rowaasr13
Exactly because of that. :) Group members box will direct to solo alter-ego HYDE instead of correct hyde.
2006-06-01 15230, 2006
Nyght
and this artist, was "together" and I split them up... made an annotation on last fm, that it was two artists, and someone chose to change that. :( http://www.last.fm/music/Brainchild
Last fm, just can't handle multiple artists named the same thing.
2006-06-01 15221, 2006
rowaasr13
Considering that this particular problem seems to be main traffic generator on their forums, I don't know why they didn't find solution for it this far.
2006-06-01 15216, 2006
Nyght
I don't know.. but it's their problem, not ours. We give our artists a specific artist id.. they go by the alpha numerical name. That will never work in a world that has different countries for their copyrights.
2006-06-01 15252, 2006
Nyght
I wasn't going to comment on the mod, but, if you would like me to I can.
2006-06-01 15237, 2006
HairMetalAddict
Because trying to split artists based on track submissions "automagically" is a helluvalot more difficult than hand-done splitting done on MB. Any attempt to do it that's not *100% perfect* from the beginning will cause even more problems.
2006-06-01 15226, 2006
Nyght
I agree HMA, the artist id doesn't go to the tag. If it did, then I imagine they could do it a lot easier!
2006-06-01 15218, 2006
HairMetalAddict
Now if every single last.fm user had perfectly-tagged tracks... but even that would just make it about 50% simpler as last.fm tracks stuff that would never make it into MB as well. (Podcasts, 50 million MySpacers who think their playing with computer programs qualifies as music...)
2006-06-01 15214, 2006
Nyght
Yeah, agreed. I was thnking, if last fm and mb wanted to work together more, they could find a way to append the artist id in like the comment field. But, people want their comment fields for various things other than a number for artist name.
2006-06-01 15242, 2006
Nyght
and musicip already utilizes the comment field for the analysis if you request it to too.
2006-06-01 15219, 2006
rowaasr13
HairMetalAddict, I remember you active on last.fm forums. Are you by any chance one of devs?
2006-06-01 15212, 2006
HairMetalAddict
I'm a moderator there
2006-06-01 15218, 2006
rowaasr13
I just wanted to know if you maybe have some thought about this mod I've mentioned.
2006-06-01 15255, 2006
rowaasr13
Especially on what side effects swapping, mentioned in that discussion, would have.
2006-06-01 15250, 2006
HairMetalAddict
My thoughts are do what's best for MB and pay no attention to last.fm. The proper edits which do the least damage to users who've tagged files with the info is best.
2006-06-01 15247, 2006
HairMetalAddict is heading out the door...
2006-06-01 15200, 2006
Nyght
Have a good evening/day HMA
2006-06-01 15226, 2006
HairMetalAddict
Leaving my comp is always the first sign of a bad day. ;-)
Nothing broke, Vince unplugged my network cable assuming it was I sapping the internert connection, although it wasn't me this time
2006-06-01 15241, 2006
MingVase
ah.
2006-06-01 15221, 2006
ngw has quit
2006-06-01 15219, 2006
flamingcow has quit
2006-06-01 15226, 2006
Muz
One for shep,
2006-06-01 15227, 2006
Muz
np: 01. Nightwish - [End of an Era #01] Dark Chest of Wonders [5:08]
2006-06-01 15216, 2006
Muz
Hmmm, the mixing on this isn't that great :\ The drums a bit off, the bass is too loud in comparison, and there's too much of an echo and bass in general :(
2006-06-01 15248, 2006
Shepard
:/
2006-06-01 15255, 2006
Shepard
morning
2006-06-01 15204, 2006
Muz
Oh, and there are too many stupid guitar effects too :(
Must be my isp then. Weird, because it says "The connection has timed out"
2006-06-01 15207, 2006
Shepard` joined the channel
2006-06-01 15215, 2006
Shepard has quit
2006-06-01 15215, 2006
Shepard`
Shepard` is now known as Shepard
2006-06-01 15220, 2006
Muz
Could be, I had a similar problem a few months ago
2006-06-01 15228, 2006
mll
Ping
2006-06-01 15233, 2006
Muz
Pong
2006-06-01 15203, 2006
Muz
I could be really annoying
2006-06-01 15212, 2006
Muz
over two servers
2006-06-01 15219, 2006
mll
:
2006-06-01 15214, 2006
catgruff
hmm explain to me why the DVD and CD when exeactly the same tracklist should be separate entries in the db, we don't have separate entries for lp's and CD' or MC with the same tracklist, do we? or if'we're arguing that dvd' is *special* then welll.
2006-06-01 15216, 2006
catgruff
also hi
2006-06-01 15222, 2006
catgruff
catgruff is now known as catgroove
2006-06-01 15240, 2006
Muz
mo, because the entry I did the CD version is split over 2 discs
2006-06-01 15207, 2006
catgroove
ok, works for me then
2006-06-01 15225, 2006
catgroove grmbls about dvd's being i n the database
