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      • nightgroove
        ru: no
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      • nightgroove
        nightgroove is now known as catgroove
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      • catgroove
        I hate... erh which day is it
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      • catgroove
        thuesdays
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        Wednesday!
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      • Jugdish
        hmm
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      • Jugdish
        what's the correct way to show that a band changed its name?
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      • Jugdish
        should it really be with a "has/had member" relationship like on this page? http://musicbrainz.org/artist/9824f91e-92e2-4456-…
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      • juhae
        No
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      • juhae
        I think they only way to do it currently is via annotation
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      • juhae
        currently
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      • Jugdish
        bleh, there's no relationship type for it?
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      • Prodoc
        mornin'
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      • crimeboy
        anybody know whats the post used for xmms-scrobler-plggin?
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      • FauxFaux
        Are you looking for ##last.fm?
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      • FauxFaux
        #last.fm.
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      • crimeboy
        tanks
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      • Prodoc
        luks, I stared over installing the system because I made a complete mess of it :-D do you know if DBD::Pg 1.32 is this required or can the latest version be used now?
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      • luks
        I use the latest version
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      • Prodoc
        ok, cool
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      • Prodoc
        luks, after perl Makefile.PL for String-Similarity-0.02 I get a notification "Please check that the type names in this '#define' occupies exactly four bytes on your system: #define INT32 long"
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      • Prodoc
        what does it mean and how do I check this?
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      • luks
        how are you installing it?
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      • Prodoc
        your provided steps
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      • Prodoc
        with the patch
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      • evil_monkey
        anyone would like to discuss here: http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=6505504 ?
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      • luks
        Prodoc: I told you to ignore those wiki pages :)
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      • luks
        use cpan or apt
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      • mustaqila
        Or moose
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      • Prodoc
        I know, I know but I need to get it installed anyway :-P
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      • luks
        but no with the old patch
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      • Prodoc
        ah
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      • Prodoc
        but the version on cpan is still the same, no newer version
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      • Prodoc
        no patch is needed anymore or do I need to use a different one?
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      • luks
        no, just run 'install String::Similarity' from cpan
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      • Prodoc
        ok
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      • evil_monkey
        luks: you read my comment or just hit yes because my comment is too long :-)
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      • luks
        well, at first I really just wanted to vote because it's too long :)
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      • luks
        but MP3 "releases" with extra tracks are quite common
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      • luks
        if it does actually exist, someone will add it again
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      • evil_monkey
        it looks like some bogus collection of random tracks
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      • luks
        yep
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      • evil_monkey
        so i don't think that it even deserves bootleg status
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      • luks
        me neither
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      • luks
        I wouldn't call random torrent a bootleg
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      • evil_monkey
        yes, it pretty much spread through torrents and slsk
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      • Prodoc
        luks, do you know how to specify additional locations for header files to use in cpan? it can't find the header files for apache but 'export CFLAGS...' before starting cpan doesn't work
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      • luks
        are you sure the dev package for apache is installed?
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      • luks
        it's apache-dev probably
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      • Prodoc
        strange, forgot that one just now but I had the same problem yesterday eventhough I did have them installed. I saw the same error just now so I assumed I would run into trouble again. Now after the install of the dev package it does work, sorry about that
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      • Prodoc
        during the install of Bundle::Apache I get the notification 'Ah, I see you already have installed libnet before. Do you want to modify/update you configuration?'
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      • Prodoc
        should I do this?
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      • luks
        I don't know
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      • luks
        probably yes
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      • luks
        hm, I don't remember I've ever installed Bundle::Apache
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      • Prodoc
        hehe, another one which can be removed from the list than? ;-)
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      • luks
        dunno
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      • luks
        I usually install things by installing the minimal set and then fixing errors
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      • luks
        some maybe something in my mb_server doesn't work correctly, but I didn't need that part so far :)
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      • Prodoc
        :-)
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      • Prodoc
        wow, down to OSSP::UUID, without real problems this time, so far so good
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      • Prodoc
        for this one I should use your steps, shouldn't I?
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      • Prodoc ducks for cover
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      • luks
        which one?
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      • Prodoc
        OSSP::UUID
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      • Prodoc
        it's still not in cpan
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      • Prodoc
        like mentioned in the INSTALL
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      • luks
        apt-get install libossp-uuid-perl
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      • Prodoc
        neat
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      • FauxFaux stabs people, can't buy music from the artists, can't buy it on media, can't buy it for download, can't pay for it from allofmp3, and can't even pirate it. :'(
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      • Kerensky97
        lost music
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      • Kerensky97
        what is it?
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      • FauxFaux
        Obscure remixes of stuff, have it at 128kbps. :(
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      • FauxFaux
        "Thunder in Paradise (DJ Scot Project mix)" by "Beam vs. Cyrus" (from "Lifestyle") [length: 9:15] [bitrate: 128kbps]
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      • FauxFaux
        Before you say anything, the version on ebay is the wrong one. :)
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      • Kerensky97
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      • Kerensky97
        Not exactly legal though
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      • FauxFaux
        I wonder if I'm allowed to pay for it. :)
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      • Kerensky97
        I'm not sure how much I trust sites like that anyway.
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      • FauxFaux
        Mmm.
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      • catgroove
        catgroove is now known as nightgroove
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      • Jugdish
        Kerensky97: what's the correct way to show that a band changed its name?
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      • Kerensky97
        There's no AR for that yet so an artist annotation to the new band is the only way right now.
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      • Jugdish
        :/
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      • Jugdish
        i saw a discussion about it on the mailing list a few months back and people were suggesting to use the "performs as" AR
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      • Kerensky97
        I've seen that tried a few times and it gets voted down because people don't like using "group performs as group" since the members may change.
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      • Kerensky97
        Even when a band has a split personality they use it gets voted down.
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      • Jugdish
        what's the plan for handling this in the future? will there eventually be a new AR for it?
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      • Kerensky97
        Nothing official has been put forward yet, but I think most people want some kind of relationship link for that.
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      • Kerensky97
        But an RFC and RFV would have to be done to work out the specifics and figure out just how it would be applied to the database.
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      • Jugdish
        what exactly are RFC's and RFV's?
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      • Aankhen``
        RFC = Request For Comments.
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      • Aankhen``
        Usually interpreted as a proposal.
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      • Aankhen``
        I'm not sure what an RFV is. Probably a Request For Votes or something.
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      • Kerensky97
        It stands for "Request for Comments" and "Request for Veto", it's basically the process of having everybody discuss the issue on the mailing lists and working out what to do.
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      • Aankhen``
        Ah, Veto. I was close!
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      • Kerensky97
        It's kind of a painful process though. Even when it seems striaght forward like this people have a tendancy to bog things down in sematics. Imagine spending two weeks arguing with people if the AR should say "A changed their name to B", "A was renamed to B", or "A is now B".