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      • BrianG
        oh neat i got desktop effects working on feisty
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      • BrianG
        BrianFreud: you're in buffalo ny?
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      • ajh
        is the fingerprinting more useful on the lossless formats?
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      • BrianG
        more useful?
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      • ajh
        more accurate/reliable.
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      • ajh
        Re-ripping everything to m4a for now, will convert to FLAC when the new MacOS comes out with support.
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      • BrianG
        i'm guessing a fingerprints a fingerprint
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      • BrianG
        for some reason i think it re encodes everything to a low level kbps type dealy, and then does the fingerprint stuff
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      • BrianG
        i could be wrong
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      • Aankhen``
        ajh: You'll convert M4A to FLAC? ~_^
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      • ajh
        Aankhen``, yes because all my other machines can deal with FLAC better, so can a number of other tools.
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      • Aankhen``
        ...butbutbut...
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      • ajh
        Better format anyway.
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      • Aankhen``
        Yes, it's a better format since it's lossless, but you do know that lossy -> lossless doesn't add lost quality, right?
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      • ajh
        M4A being Apple Lossless in an Mpeg-4 Container.
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      • Aankhen``
        Ohh.
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      • Aankhen``
        Whew.
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      • Aankhen``
        Stupid Apple M4A.
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      • Aankhen``
        I just associate M4A with AAC automatically, since I figure other formats are smart enough to use the right extension.
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      • Aankhen``
        I should probably update my mental model to accommodate Apple Lossless, though.
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      • ajh
        Yeah, I don't get why they did that.
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      • Aankhen`` shrugs.
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      • ajh
        but yeah, a couple 750G drives and I'll be set. :)
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      • Aankhen``
        Ahh, you and me both.
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      • Aankhen``
        Well, in my case, I'd need about eight.
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      • ajh
        All from originals?
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      • Aankhen``
        MBChatLogger: off
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      • MBChatLogger
        is not logging
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      • MBChatLogger
        is logging
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      • ajh
        Yeah, mine are. :)
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      • Aankhen``
        Wow, nice.
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      • Aankhen``
        How many CDs is that?
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      • ajh
        Or from borrowed original media.
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      • ajh
        Yay Canadian Copyright law. :)
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      • ajh
        Though the 400 discs I'm processing right now are all original presses.
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      • ajh
        Ripping to lossless sure is faster, seeing 35-40x speeds.
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      • BrianFreud
        BrianG: yep
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      • Aankhen``
        ajh: Yeah, much less compression.
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      • Aankhen``
        = much less work for the CPU.
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      • ajh
        Not compression per se, less filtering.
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      • Aankhen``
        Eh, that's right. My bad.
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      • Aankhen``
        "codec" being a rather misleading term in this context, heh.
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      • ajh
        Really wish this supported robots.
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      • Aankhen``
        "this"? "robots"?
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      • ajh
        itunes, and cd library robots.
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      • Aankhen``
        Ah.
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      • Aankhen``
        I don't believe I've ever come across CD library robots.
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      • ajh
        or the kenwood type 200 disc cartridge changers.
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      • Aankhen``
        Ooooh.
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      • ajh
        Yeah, the big ones are really expensive... but I'm sure I could 'demo' one.
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      • Aankhen``
        So, once again... how many albums would you say your collection will include once the dust has settled?
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      • ajh
        No idea. I have to re-borrow a bunch of original discs.. my strangeness is that it has a few hundred local/regional bands in there.
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      • Aankhen``
        Ah.
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      • Aankhen``
        An estimate?
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      • ajh
        Probably about 800 discs or so to start.
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      • Aankhen``
        Oooh.
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      • Aankhen``
        I never really bought CDs for the longest time.
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      • ajh
        I'm contemplating ripping lacquer and vinyl too though.
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      • ajh
        Yeah, 200 of those are bought directly from the band.
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      • Aankhen``
        I still don't, actually.
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      • Aankhen``
        Neat.
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      • ajh
        OK, I think 7am-2:40am is a long enough day...
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      • Aankhen``
        Yup.
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      • Shepard`
        Shepard` is now known as Shepard
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      • FauxFaux
        Aaah, autoedits ftw.
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      • Shepard
        oh?
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      • FauxFaux
        (Disc 1) -> (disc 1) etc.
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      • FauxFaux
        The fact that I'd listened to this cd about twenty times and hadn't noticed worries me slightly, but never mind. :)
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      • Jugdish
        luks?
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      • luks
        ?
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      • Jugdish
        if you make an edit changing the quality setting of something and then make edits to it afterwards, and the quality setting gets approved before them, are those edits immediately bound to the new quality or the original quality?
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      • luks
        the original
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      • Jugdish
        ok, good
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      • Jugdish
        so in other words, all that matter is what the quality setting is at the time of opening a new edit, not at the time of the expiration of the edit?
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      • luks
        right
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      • Jugdish
        k thx :)
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      • EtherealShifter
        EtherealShifter is now known as Freso
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      • Freso
        Hm. I thought it was specifically meant to always be the current quality that determined what ModBot would do with a given edit.
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      • Freso
        Why was that changed?'
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      • sdbrady_
        sdbrady_ is now known as sdbrady
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      • Shepard hands over the moose award for mega chatkill to Freso
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      • Muz_
        MOOOOSE :D
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      • aCiD2
        Howdy
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      • aCiD2
        I know I shouldn't ask... but can I get a bunch of yes'es on the track removals in http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?ar… ?
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      • aCiD2
        Moved the whole release into it's seperate 4 discs (vinyl), and I'm just left with that album that is now disc 3.. but I can't tag my files with it like it is atm :P
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      • warp
        aCiD2: it doesn't exist like this at all?
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      • warp
        (cd release or something)
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      • aCiD2
        What do you mean?
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      • aCiD2
        Oh, not that I'm aware
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      • aCiD2 checks
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      • aCiD2
        nope
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      • warp
        in general, track removals are scary. someone entered that data, so usually the disc exists like that.
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      • aCiD2
        I entered the data :P
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      • warp
        doh! ok :)
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      • warp
        changed your mind? ;)
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      • aCiD2
        It's all 4 discs in one, because I didn't realise I should enter vinyl per disc when I joined (what I fool I was!)
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      • warp
        ah
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      • warp
        i never really entered vinyl for which no cd exists.
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      • aCiD2 rips his vinyl
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      • warp
        usually whatever i need tagged is a cd rip, even if _I_ have the vinyl.
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      • aCiD2
        Hehe
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      • warp downloads .flac, and only purchases vinyl afterward ;)
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      • aCiD2
        Can't get much dnb on cd
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      • aCiD2
        And I don't download or anything so... no choice here :)
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      • warp
        ok
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      • aCiD2
        Woo, I'm rank 5 of the most active editors last week ^_^
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      • aCiD2
        Wow, splitting releases SUCKS
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      • aCiD2
        I need to write a proposal on a way to split releases
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      • Muz_
        For a second there, I thought aCiD2 was talking about software
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      • Muz_
        I then realised I was in the wrong channel
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      • aCiD2
        :D
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      • Muz_ shakes fist at 20+ IRC tabs
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      • aCiD2
        :o
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      • aCiD2
        I can't get -anything- done with more than 2 irc tabs open
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      • Muz_
        And you think I am getting stuff done? :P
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      • aCiD2
        :P
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      • Muz_
        I jest, for the most part, I ignore all but 1 of my tabs
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      • warp
        20 seems reasonable.
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      • Muz_
        3 IRCNetworks, 23 channel tabs, and a handful of query tabs
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      • Muz_
        Heh
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      • warp knows people who hit the freenode limit of amount of channels you can join.
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      • warp
        that's pretty scary.
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      • Jugdish
        question guys: should an "iTunes Exclusive" really be considered an official release for an artist? personally, i tend to think they are more "playlists" than "albums"
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      • warp has 10 channels spread over 3 servers.
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      • warp
        Jugdish: huh?