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      • dholmes_
        Happy new year from CST =D
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      • ruaok
        happy 2am from cali! ;-)
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      • MClemo
        happy 11am from germany!
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      • Kerensky98
        Good evening. Having a good time?
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      • symphonick
        MClemo, here's your Swedish lesson for 2008: "gott" = Swedish, "godt"=Norwegian/Danish :-)
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      • MClemo
        argh :) damn you, google!
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      • MClemo
        there are a lot of new classical editors, aren't there? I have a hard time crawling through my subscriptions
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      • symphonick
        MClemo, well, I have less than 700 votes in que...
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      • MClemo
        symphonick: 700 is a lot if you ask me :)
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      • symphonick
        I agree :)
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      • mudcrow
        nice, I just found a OMD album I never knew I had :)
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      • CatCat
        :D
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      • nikki
        ha
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      • aCiD2
        mornin
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      • nikki_ prods CatCat
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      • mudcrow
        anyone have any idea what Bila je tako lijepa trnslates as . Serbian, online translators are useless
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      • mudcrow
        its a cover of a Alain Barrière song, but i'm clueless what it could be
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      • CatCat
        nikki?
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      • nikki_
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      • luks
        aCiD2: hi!
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      • luks
        if I would go crazy and really start working on the mbserver idea, would you be interested in helping a bit?
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      • aCiD2
        howdy luks :)
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      • aCiD2
        I would
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      • aCiD2
        Which idea are you most in favour of?
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      • luks
        the 4th one
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      • nikki_
        which idea?
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      • aCiD2
        with cherrypy then?
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      • luks
        yes
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      • luks
        I'd go with django or something, but ORM system really wouldn't work for MB
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      • aCiD2
        that's what I was thinking
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      • luks
        and for simple web request dispatching I don't need django
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      • luks
        though, doing it in catalyst is also tempting...
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      • aCiD2
        catalyst is perl, right?
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      • luks
        yes
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      • luks
        but not the usual ugly kind of perl
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      • aCiD2
        I haven't used it, but i'm up for learning if that's what you want to try with :)
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      • aCiD2 looks
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      • luks
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      • LotR
        luks: I think you're looking in the wrong places if the majority of perl code you're finding is 'ugly perl' :)
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      • luks
        that's very likely
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      • luks
        but ugly perl code is all I currently have :)
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      • FauxFaux
        LotR: Liar!
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      • LotR
        FauxFaux: heh. happy new year to you too :)
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      • nikki_
        mudcrow: apparently "were so beautiful" or something (by translating it word for word...)
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      • FauxFaux
        Oh dear, please tell me I misread the scrollback.
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      • LotR
        and to everyone else of course!
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      • aCiD2
        "see page ??" why how very useful
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      • FauxFaux
        Yeah, happy new year! everyone sane and CatCat.
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      • mudcrow
        thanks nikki
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      • aCiD2 doesn't like ny
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      • CatCat
        hmm
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      • CatCat prods nikki
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      • FauxFaux actually screams "god no!" after reading luks' mail, no offence. :/
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      • aCiD2
        Faux, you really want to leave the code how it is?
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      • luks
        _something_ needs to be done about it
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      • FauxFaux
        No, but I've used catalyst on another project; and I'm even less of a python fan than a perl fan.
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      • luks
        I'm not exactly sure what it should be
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      • CatCat
        ok if noone wants me.. i'll be off now
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      • FauxFaux
        Might read this again when I've had a drink. :P
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      • nikki_
        CatCat: did you see the link? I don't know whether it went through or not
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      • CatCat
        no i saw nothing
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      • nikki_
        hmph
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      • nikki_
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      • luks
        FauxFaux: what part exactly was "god no"?
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      • luks
        or the whole idea?
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      • CatCat
        FauxFaux needs more stuff
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      • CatCat goes crazy on him
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      • nikki_
        luks: well, he'd use php if you let him :P
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      • FauxFaux
        Let me try reading it again. ¬_¬
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      • CatCat
        now he'll be preupied, do the coding now luks!
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      • luks
        that's what we have now :/
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      • nikki_ knows
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      • luks
        html::mason is no better than php
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      • mudcrow
        yay, found it. its a cover of Elle etait si jolie
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      • CatCat
        nikki: afaik its a composition by unknown peopels, its a trad tune
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      • nikki_ found the code a pain in the arse to work with
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      • CatCat
        its the edgy sie of csg
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      • nikki_
        CatCat: so it shouldn't be under the artist who performed it?
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      • FauxFaux
        HTML::Mason is far superior to php for most things, mainly 'cos it's not using the php "vm". :)
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      • CatCat
        sould a beethoven piece?
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      • nikki_
        beethoven is a person, traditional is a "oh, damn, no idea who wrote this..."
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      • CatCat
        definitly the ar's shoudl be there though
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      • nikki_
        the artist already has a bunch of albums in mb, it seems silly to put it under traditional
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      • CatCat
        no, traditional is a "this was written and rewritten much liek a old folk tale"
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      • CatCat
        you cant say that one person at oen time wrote it, its more "a whole peopel trough 300 years helped form it"
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      • nikki_
        it still seems wrong to me
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      • FauxFaux
        luks: I'll write on list later, but, as that other guy said, all these nice orm things (I've tried with Catalyst) don't back onto existing database-schemas well at all. In any way.
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      • luks
        I know
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      • nikki_
        if it were an album where the performers weren't mentioned or were hardly mentioned, sure
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      • nikki_
        but when the largest text on the cover is the performer...
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      • luks
        I wanted to use only the request dispatching part of catalyst
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      • aCiD2
        FauxFaux: we're not suggesting the usage of orm
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      • luks
        and probably Text::MicroMason
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      • FauxFaux
        So long as you avoid the DBIx::Class /shite/ you might survive. And the terrible, terrible development server. And the fact that it depends on the entirety of cpan. And that the packages don't build from cpan most of the time. And.. :)
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      • luks
        the terrible development server is at least easy to get running
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      • luks
        which you can't say about apache1 :)
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      • FauxFaux
        True. :)
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      • FauxFaux
        And the current site doesn't exactly run on windows, either.
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      • FauxFaux
        I'm going to have to look at cherrypy, never tried python from a web-scripting perspective, that must have been one of it's targets, right? (Not that they hit any of their other targets etc. mutter mutter)
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      • aCiD2
        nor did php :P
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      • luks
        hi yalaforge! :)
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      • yalaforge
        hey luks!
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      • yalaforge
        interesting things are about to happen, a good start for 2008 :)
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      • aCiD2
        :)
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      • luks
        not yet sure if anything is going to happen
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      • FauxFaux
        aCiD2: Sure it did, "rapid" "code" "production"!
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      • luks
        but if I want to work on anything new, I have to do at least something about it
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      • aCiD2
        faux, rapid has never been assossciated with php for me :P
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      • yalaforge
        I just hope you'll achieve more than I did
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      • yalaforge
        I gave up and simply started with a new domain model that's only visible on the web service interface ;-)
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