#musicbrainz

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      • Muzzz
        aCiD2: lolque?
      • aCiD2
        balls, what's the unix command to check filesize?
      • FauxFaux
        Average bitrate of my 15 weeks of mp3 files is 173 kbps, apparnetly. (Foobar somuchheart).
      • Muzzz
        du
      • aCiD2
        ta
      • and df for filesystem, ya?
      • Muzzz
        Indeed
      • aCiD2
        44G music then, according to du
      • Muzzz isn't going to wait for something to calculate his average bitrate
      • yllona
        i have 399 GB here.
      • Muzzz
        It's all 128kbps CBR or higher though
      • Kerensky97
        Muzz: you won't want to hear this but WMP11 manages my 210GB MP3 library as fast as if it was only 10 albums.
      • FauxFaux
        "MP3 CBR (87.8%); MP3 VBR V2 (4.8%); MP3 VBR (4.5%); MP3 (1.7%); MP3 VBR V4 (0.4%); MP3 VBR V0 (0.3%); MP3 VBR V1 (0.2%); MP1 CBR (0.1%); MP3 ABR (0.1%);" heh.
      • aCiD2
        5476 ogg/mp3s according to find | wc -l too
      • yllona
        and itunes is still working well
      • Muzzz
        So so much that needs tagging that I'm not even going to introduce it to my library until it's tagged immaculately
      • FauxFaux
        Since I bought my new machine, foobar default search is fast enough for find as you type again. \o/
      • aCiD2
        FauxFaux: that's the one thing about foobar I'm missing atm, heh
      • Muzzz
        Kerensky97: admittedly I've never tried WMP11 for library management, I got too pissed off at WMP10
      • cooperaa
        Muzzz: how can you live with untagged/un-MBIDed files?
      • Muzzz
        They sit on a seperate partitiion :)
      • It doesn't go into my Music folder until it's tagged and whathaveyou
      • Filenames need to be correct too
      • cooperaa
        do you listen to them?
      • Muzzz
        The majority of them yeah
      • cooperaa
        that's the problem I had, I never listened to untagged files
      • FauxFaux can't listen to htem. =p
      • *never used to listen...
      • Muzzz
        Untagged files aren't listened to yet though
      • cooperaa
        now I have it all tagged and just add new albums as they come in
      • aCiD2
        uhh... can xterm be made to display unicode without blowing up?
      • Muzzz
        Yes, can't remember the command though off the top of myhead
      • Muzzz has his xterm at work displaying unicode fine
      • FauxFaux
        echo -ne '\e%G\e[?47h\e%G\e[?47l'
      • aCiD2
        uhh, what?
      • cooperaa
        does foobar do track/album ratings?
      • aCiD2
        cooperaa: with foo_rating, yes
      • cooperaa
        cool
      • Muzzz
        Mine doesn't because I don't use them :D
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      • cooperaa uses ratings so he can just hit play and let his media player pick the songs he should be listening to
      • aCiD2 has never had luck with that
      • FauxFaux
        aCiD2: Put that in your ~/.$SHELL_profile file, it tells the terminal to go into utf-8 mode (ie. when you're using default putty over ssh etc.)
      • cooperaa
        once you get the majority of your good stuff rated... it's just a matter of setting up a good playlists
      • FauxFaux
        I should use ratings, but I'd be able to do album ratings just by typing in the names of about three serieses of cds (bet Muzzz can guess them) and giving them five star, and everything else 1. :P
      • cooperaa has 15,286/24,322 songs rated
      • aCiD2
        FauxFaux: an echo can enable unicode?
      • Muzzz
        FauxFaux: heh
      • aCiD2
        neat :)
      • petros
        cooperaa: Foobar can be severely extended with plugins. It can be slimmer than Kate Moss and Twiggy's lovechild or more obese than Rush Limbaugh's rhetorics
      • FauxFaux
        aCiD2: It's a telnet (or, at least, the same family) thing, iirc.
      • ruaok
        woah!
      • Muzzz
        petros: hahaha
      • cooperaa
        petros: that's the problem I had with foobar... a lot of work to find out what you need
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      • Muzzz
        ruaok: you sound surprised?
      • aCiD2
        Life's one big surprise for rob :)
      • ruaok
        that comment was directed at petros ' comment.
      • Muzzz
        cooperaa: thing is, it's much like winamp, except it doesn't ship with a tonne of useless shit that you don't use/need by default
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      • petros
        cooperaa: fair point. It found the component page and links to be easy enough to get a good overview of what I might like. And the config seemed pretty easy.
      • aCiD2
        FauxFaux: did that, and then source'd it - ncmp still won't display accented e's and a's though :(
      • "Error: Unable to convert characters to ANSI_X3.4-1968" from ncmpc, so maybe that's the problem
      • petros
        ruaok: Heh. I tend to use examples like those. Gets the point across ;)
      • ruaok
        works for me.
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      • cooperaa
        petros: foobar looks very nice (in many user's screenshots) but I could never get mine to that point... doesn't really matter now though. I listen to my iPod for almost 8 hours a day so it's slick integration with iTunes is what's most important right now
      • (and that's one reason why I quit using Amarok... very buggy iPod integration/transcoding)
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      • aCiD2
        ok, beddy time, natta!
      • ruaok
        natta aCiD2
      • Muzzz -> sleep
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      • looks like its bet time for the UK wankers
      • *bed
      • Muzzz isn't a wanker, he has a girlfriend to satisfy him!
      • cooperaa
        anyone know if you're charged long distance for receiving a long distance call?
      • (on a cell phone)
      • ruaok
        halfway across the country no?
      • cooperaa: no typically.
      • but here in the US you get charged airtime for receving a call.
      • not so in europe.
      • cooperaa
        so if I have unlimited nights/weekends, my parents can call me long distance and I wouldn't get any changes?
      • charges*
      • ruaok
        yep.
      • cooperaa
        sweet
      • ruaok
        if you have unlimited long distance, you should call them,.
      • save them money.
      • cooperaa
        I hoped so... but would've been quite pissed if they called and I got charged for it
      • only have unlimited long distance between my account's phones
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      • hmmm... what instrument should I use for this? "Horn (cor)"
      • cornet, cornett, horn?
      • or French horn... sheesh
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      • brianfreud
        holy freaking wikiediting panda! lol
      • ruaok
        yeah, and he generated an email for every edit so it seems. :)
      • cooperaa
        wow
      • dholmes_
        A small price to pay, surely
      • FauxFaux
        Heh.
      • cooperaa wishes we had a "Text to AR" converter...
      • brianfreud
        how so?
      • cooperaa
        SoAndSo performed Piano on [selected tracks]
      • SoAndSo additionally composed [selected tracks]
      • FauxFaux
        (feat.)
      • brianfreud
        lol, sounds actually rather like what I’ve been trying to figure out all day
      • cooperaa
        like a text box to type them out
      • dholmes_
        I'd like that, with IntelliSense too
      • So it drops down menus when you start typinh each part of the sentence
      • cooperaa wikis IntelliSense and says "cool"
      • cooperaa
        but it could be just like the "Relate to..." lookup we have
      • once you type in a name and then enter an AR word like performed/composed/produced/etc
      • brianfreud
        ok, for the geniuses like FauxFaux, a challenge. I still cannot figure out how to take this input and make it into a nice, useful array
      • cooperaa
        it would put the lookup below the name
      • dholmes_
        Yeah
      • Just combine that with the ability to do it for a whole sentence instead of the last part ;)
      • brianfreud
        same XML has both; the top is ARs+names, mixed, plus tracks-all-together. the bottom is separate in the xml, track by itself, roles, name. http://musicbrainz.pastebin.com/d124189ba
      • FauxFaux
        brianfreud: I prefer "Genuis Sir FauxFaux".
      • brianfreud knights FauxFaux, accidentally cuts ear
      • Ow!
      • ruaok
        lol
      • FauxFaux
        brianfreud: That xml to an array (or map?)? JS?
      • brianfreud
        best case, I would like to end up with arrayPerson[name][role, track]
      • yes, need to transform both halves into an array in js
      • (a separate array of just array[roles] would be useful too...)
      • FauxFaux can't remember how the xml stuff works in javascript at all. :/
      • lol
      • I can handle the code end, but the logic of how to parse it I’m blocking on
      • FauxFaux
        In theory, it'd be painfully simple with any xml parser.
      • brianfreud
        well, yes, to just feed each of the three into an array. But not to split the <tracks>1 to 5, 8, 11</tracks> into <track>1</track><track>2</track> etc and still keep the values...
      • nor the multiple roles within the same <role>foo, foo, foo</role>
      • FauxFaux
        Surely those are just .split(", "), or whatever js calls it?
      • brianfreud
        yes, I can split on the commas, and check for “1 to 10” and transform that,
      • but how to actually combine together into some reasonable array?
      • At some point, I will need the user to ID what AR each unknown role is talking about, and to match each artist to an MB artist.
      • I’d like them to only have to do that once for each role and artist
      • FauxFaux doesn't understand what you mean, sorry. :/
      • ok
      • FauxFaux
        I'm stupidly tired despite having got up about eight hours ago, too. /me -> get some food.
      • brianfreud
        parse in [person, role, track] over and over. That’s easy. But then how to combine it together, so that instead of, say, Tori Amos having 29 entries in the array, I can index them all to one Tori Amos.
      • cooperaa
        goddammit!
      • brianfreud
        Trying to do kind of a bubble-combine *shrug*
      • cooperaa
        I'm going to need some Yes votes to clean up some ARs I added to the wrong tracks... :(
      • FauxFaux
        You mean, you want a map of, say, your_variable["Tori Amos"] = an Array(thing1, thing2)? JS can do that.
      • brianfreud
        how?
      • brianfreud is only thinking of wildly unhelpful O ways to do it
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