#musicbrainz

jdlh: sorry, was afk

it goes and tries to find info on whatever release you're looking at. Just right now, it's a very very raw results list.

brianfreud: that is pretty ill

"find info" meaning searching out in various useful places on the Web?

Pretty much

It would be cool if it had a "create this edit" option

yes

that's where it eventually is going... like I said, very very alpha ;)

It already comes up with all sorts of useful information like: "talking heads are you fucking kidding me there not hardcore screemo and shyt they fucking suck! dam tails .... Talking Heads kill ever"

Right now, though, the results were good enough, at least that you can sort of see them amidst the mess, I figured some people might already be able to use it.

lol

Some of the other ones are pretty cool though ;)

well, it's trying everywhere, which pretty much, until I start to get in and filter some more, means it's almost guaranteed to also have false positives on some places, where people are comparing (to/against) a Jamendo band, for example

kind of cool to pull up a release with next to nothing - no events, no times, no anything, and see decent fixes though :)

ok, natta folk@

s/@/!

natta!

ruaok: yeah, herbalizer is great, thanks for suggesting that ^^

:-)

ruaok: you might find this interesting. Though, I'd add a 9th to the list; it's also the same one I think applies most to MB: "Quality" (I think that's a bit different than "Trust") - http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/kelly08/kelly08...

(I'd suggest, of the others, "Accessibility" (using the data) and "Findability" (indexing the data in ways that are helpful) are perhaps the two others that matter most to MB development)

brianfreud: btw, yesterday's survey of random classical stuff found 29 CDs with X-Dur and 15 with X-dur, 13 with x-Moll and 19 with x-moll, 18 with Nr. and 1 with No., 23 with op. and 1 with Op. and 30 without in and 5 with in

Picard's being irritating - any idea how to get it to accept tagging commands on port 8001 again? It worked, then I opened another instance and closed it, and now it doesn't

you can't

start a new search from picard and it will update the site to use 8000

oh, I see. So if I bind something to use 8000, then run picard again, that instance will bind on 8001...

yes, it tries ports from 8000 until it finds a free one

That works, thanks, I didn't realize 8000 was the default

Hooray, 30 albums of ogg and m4a finally tagged (I was waiting for some votes to default-accept). Now to put my mind at ease and stop stressing over minor innaccuracies, and blatently neglect my flac collection

:)

luks_ is now known as luks

hm, we need some style guide for writing disambiguation comments

like caps or no trailing period

I always figured sentence caps and no trailing period

yep, but not everybody uses that

true

GC for disambigs? :)

some pople write it all lowercase

or "A band from UK" vs. "UK band"

agreed

it needs to be short, sweet and to the point

actually, though, the one I thing I wish is that we could require the disambig on both ends

problem is with some artists it very hard to write a comment with enough detail to distinguish it, especially all those trance artists who use the same aliases

"UK band" may not help me, when it comes to "UK band" vs "", and really should be "Dublin band" vs "London band"

or two bands fom the same country with simialr styles

ho yes

had this

you may not know the one band well, but if you know them enough to ID they're not the one you want, you can write a 3 word disambig for them

agreed, but if the two bands are clearly from two different countries, "a danish rapper" or similar on both ought to be enough I think

yes, but I'm referring to the "Disambig" vs "blank" - could be any situation

yeah, there should be disambiguation notes on both ends

not sure what to do about the tough cases with very genre-wise similar artists with the same names, who are these people and why are they being so difficult

I prefer to use Country, Genre and wel known release for them, in most cases they have only released a couple of records

like A.K.A. (UK garage/electro, released Warning) & A.K.A. (side project of Information Society, released Cruel Lovin') & A.K.A. (happy hardcore released Nuttiest Sound & Coming From The Top)

they seem to work better than just (is an alias of) etc. or (UK trance)

I usually have problems identifying the correct artist on VA releases, and not knowing the artists well comments such as AKA (alias of Paul Neville) are bloody useless

really?

as long as it disambiguates IMO :)

if you have trance artists who released only a single track (and there is a lot of them), it's much easier to just use the track title for disambiguation

genre is a bit vague, so i can understand objections to that. but alias of 'name' seems pretty decent.

luks: ah, yes.

except that alias of name rquires the user to have a fairly indepth knowledge of the artist. while using a track title as the comment is almost idiot proof

i hate when they have "release album" or "key track"

mudcrow: seems the other way around to me personally.

(i'm not that good at remembering track titles :)

but when you are adding a VA release you have the track title in front of you :)

I'm speaking of those artists that only release one or two tracks, so the comment will match the track you are entering

in that case yes i agree

luks: er, usually i'm adding a new artist artist, not selecting one of several existing. :S

but there are many that don't fit that case yet still have a "key track" that isn't even close the most represented on on VA comp

I am trying to add a danish album with a barcode that apparently isn't standard, the number is "7 24382 16142 4", should I just check the "this is a different type of barcode" box ?

oh, nevermind :)

I wish we had a better way of identifying artists, getting a huge list of similar named artists can be overwhelming at times and sometimes makes it very difficult to spot the artist you want.

leverage the "is similar to" list :)

only onehitwonders (eg what was mentioned) sould have trackname as ambigiuation comment