#musicbrainz

Hi

I need some help.

I added this disk: http://musicbrainz.org/show/release/?releaseid=... almost a year ago

and then forgot about it completely.

help with what?

I was asked a few questions. I answered them here: http://musicbrainz.org/mod/search/results.html?...

(notes)

Well, I want the changes to get somewhere. The guy who cleaned my mess up has probably long since forgotten me.

For example: where do I stick that disk ID?

Also, how do I figure it out in the first place?

you mean the catalog number and label or the PUID (acoustic fingerprint)

No, disk ID

The guy asked: If you have the cd, could you add the discid?

Well, I have the CD, but I'm not sure about that discid.

hold on, i'm reading everything

cizra: the discid is calculated by picard when you try to look up a cd with picard.

i can't help you with the disc id, as i have a mac

cizra: by using picard to search for a cd in this way, you can also add the discid of that cd to a release in musicbrainz.

What's that picard?

Some kind of music player?

it's an automated tool for musicbrianz that wil identify tracks in your collection

one sec...

cizra: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/PicardTagger

cizra: how are you using musicbrainz?

Am not using it.

I just tried to pull the disc data from CDDB.

cizra: http://wiki.musicbrainz.org/HowToTagFilesWithPi...

Then I saw that since it has no disc id set, it hasn't wound up in CDDB at all.

That's why I want now the disc id to appear there.

but if you have the CD, you can add the release events (release date/country for the CD)

cizra: musicbrainz doesn't add anything to CDDB

to get the disc id you'll need to install picard

OK, what's that Label field?

What's that Catalog # field?

cizra: record label, catalog number.

Record label? Well, it has no labels on it.

Frankly I don't understand that terminology.

In other words, I have no idea what to put in any of these fields -- except the format, which is regular audio CD.

Also, there's no field to put disc id into.

cizra: to you have an official copy of this CD? if so the record label and catalog number with be printed on the CD inserts.

yes

okay look on the CD case, on the back

Heh. The case is long gone (=

what about the CD insert?

wait, no

found them

okay, the label will be printed on the CD itself, and the CD insert

the catalog number is usually printed below the label name

hmmhmm

3-1656-2 (above)

(LC) 1083 below it

LC is in a circle

| D | D | D| (in boxes) below them

DDD is the type of audio recording "Digital/digital/digital"

OK

So, 3-1656-2 is probably the label?

No way to figure out the release date, I suppose...

no, probly catalog number one sec

is thhis the CD?

no

or thhis one: http://www.amazon.com/Percussion-Concert-Paul-C...

Doesn't seem to be there.

or this? http://www.amazon.com/Percussion-Concert-2-Fran...

nope

The name is "Instruments in Concert", but http://www.amazon.com/Instruments-in-Concert/dp... is not it.

here's his web site: http://www.sadlo-percussion.de/

OK, this sounds improbable, but it's not there either.

this then? http://www.amazon.de/Instruments-Concert-Peter-...

yes!

the label is koch international

I would say the label is "Koch Schwann"

it's the same

The disc is manufactured in Austria.

But the release might have been in Germany or something.

How to figure out?

I think I'll just put Austria in there.

OK, what about catalog number? 3-1656-2?

Barcode is probably hopeless...

oh, wait, it's on the case as well

yllona: label code and catalog numbers don't match up.

label web site: http://www.kochentertainment.com/ this artist is not listed

ok, let me check koch distribution, one sec

yllona: Koch International acquired Schwann, and relabeled it as Koch/Schwann.

so, IMO needs to be a seperate entry in MB

i think so too, hold on lookng for koch/schwan catalog

Uh..

cizra: yes, we're serious about this stuff ;)

Also, no place to stick disc id into has appeared.

cizra: no, the disc id is handled by picard. there is no other way to add it.

Drat.

I really can't understand the reason.

becuase it needs to be calculated

bc0c7f0d there ya go, calculated it

mplayer and abcde give identical results

warp: funny koch/schwann isn't listed on the koch distribution site

nor is it listed on koch entertainment

yllona: universal is no longer using the imprint.

lloks like, i have several koch recordings ...

too bad, was a great affordable classical label

here's koch's structure now: http://www.kochent.com/companychart.htm

So, what should I stick into those Label and Catalog # fields?

cizra: Label: Koch Schwann, Catalog #: 3-1656-2

koch is still releasing clasical, just not as koch/schwann

There ya go

has a release event.

hm, not yet.

oh fuck

yep. not yet

Did it disappear?

ah, there it is.

cizra: great!

Not at all.

yes looks good

I couldn't enter the disc id

therefore it won't wind up in CDDB

therefore the whole business will be useless for me.

cizra: it won't end up in cddb anyway.

What about this? http://musicbrainz.org/doc/FreeDBGateway

cizra: yes, you can use that instead of CDDB in any software which uses the cddb/freedb protocol.

Well, my point. It won't wind up there because it has no discid attached.

cizra: you could try picard :)

Nah. Let's stay polite.

OK, that's it. My $0.02 to the world happiness.

G'night.

that release still needs more cleanup.

ruaok, yllona - how'd the osx compile go?

stuff missing from the release title, and i don't think the release artist is accurate. :/

rcross: i just got back about an hour ago, haven't tried again

oh ok - it sounded like things were almost working when i left

warp: done

rcross: i ihave to explicitly link a library, seems like

the header file exists and is up-to-date on my systems, but the configure/make isn't finding it

so i'll try to edit the configure after dinner

ok, sounds good

warp: i also added ARs for the artist